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  2. Haha it's kindo funny you say so, ive just trained abit with a classical coach who trained with several masters he says the other way around lol. He said singing highnotes with a cover is much easyer and less demanding then the more rocktype of singing. Perhaps it's individual?
  3. You could also argue that classical and contemporary singing are both optmized. They are just optimized towards different goals. The classical voice is strongly optimized towards acoustic projection, getting the biggest/loudest sound out of the instrument with the least possible effort. The major cause for this is still that they don't have mics in classical singing. This optmization goal calls for high levels of air pressure, which means more Bernoulli closure. To avoid overcompression they need to use less twang as a result of this. Contemporary singing is optimized towards mic amplification. Raw volume is rarely an issue. Being able to "project" is a lot more about the spectral content of your singing (mainly the overtones in the 3kHz area) and not the raw volume the instrument can produce. Twanging heavily is the perfect strategy to get this kind of projection and dampening/Bernoulli closure is just used as a means to make the sound more beautiful and less stressful to the ear. A second optimization goal in contemporary singing is often (especially in muscail theatre) that the lyrics are easily understandable, which requires a rise of the formants and larynx in the high range. Your picture shows both goals quite nicely. The strong 2nd harmonics (red circle) usually comes from a lifted larynx and makes the voice more "speech-like" and easier to understand. The peaks aroud 3kHz are the twang frequencies (4th to 7th blue circle) which improve projection. A classical singer would have a weaker 2nd harmonics and weaker frequencies around 3kHz, but he would have a higher total energy and most often a more dominant 3rd harmonics in this area of pitches.
  4. I guess singing the same word while alternating pitch would help your sense of pitch. Not sure about the other stuff.
  5. Yea, for some people those exercises would help. But for most people especially beginners it would just encourage choking.
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  7. Hello there I saw this on youtube and yes I know we all should be taking youtube with a pinch of salt nowerdays but this teacher says that for improving pitch we should replace the words of the song with the sound of "Done"; he says this is because The hard D sound at the beginning of "Done" stops you sliding into a note and the N sound at the end of the word "Done" sends vibrations up our checks which help us monitor the pitch that we are singing. He also states that replacing the words of the song with the sound "Bib" will improve rhythm. He dose not give a lot of explanation to this only to say it is very precursive. So what do you think; true of false?
  8. I thought I'd post an official review my singing thread for my new EP "Blink of an Eye" available on all major music platforms. What are your thoughts? What do you like? what do you not like? whats your favorite song? iTunes Spotify
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  10. Thanks for the replies fellas. Benny - that makes sense about opening up the door to the top notes. Also you're right about it being mezzo voce. Roger Kain puts a lot of emphasis on these "half voice" exercises. Saying that they will turn a good singer into a great singer and will bring improvements throughout the whole voice. In your experience does this ring true?
  11. Do you come from a family of musicians?
  12. Hi, thanks for the advice! I also want too thank everyone else for their advice. I've started working with my teacher on it and I can hopefully get to where I want to be with practice.
  13. Yes. Good point. Contemporary singers, as a general rule, tend to twang a bit harder... more squeeze on the glottis, less reliant on respiration principles like good, strong bernoulli closure and appoggio. Which is a complement to Classical singers, although produces a sound color that just doesn't sound as cool in contemporary singing. Which proposes an interesting observation. For the sake of conversation, if we can agree that the Classical voice is slightly more balanced and optimized per the capabilities of the instrument ( the full potential of the human voice ), does that mean that the art or aesthetic also is superior? NO! A perfectly optimized Classical sounding voice sounds weird and too formal for Dream Theater. Thus, the voice can be optimized and it should be to a large extent, but we must pay attention to what is best for the art, which is to be an advocate of the freedom that contemporary singing lends itself to, that classical singing most certainly does not.
  14. YES! What he said! But to be honest, we have to work and train harder to sing the same notes above the bridge. But if you can get it going, you do have more beef. Dan is correct.
  15. Contemporary, singers are amplifying different harmonics in the formant then classical singers. There are other factors involved, but the biggest reason is due to the resonance/harmonics and how they tune the formant on the same frequencies. The element that creates a sound color is the amplified partials or overtones. Attached is a picture of what a sound signature looks like with partials for 1 given note displayed with spectrum software. This image is from my book and course, The Four Pillars of Singing. This is a sustained note on an /eh/ vowel, on the note A4. This is with my voice, a contemporary singer. The higher the partial, the more audible it is. Now, back to your question. For the same note ( A4 ) on the same vowel, /eh/, a Classical singer would have a very different sound signature. The amplified partials would show a different signature then the contemporary singer. That is the biggest reason why a Classical singer and a Contemporary singer sound very different. It isn't the only difference, but the main difference. Influencing this harmonic difference is the strength of the TA muscle, the level of compression on the vocal folds, the position of the larynx, and other factors.
  16. I almost thought that was somebody else. I'm a beard guy though. Don't like how I look without it and my shadow comes back by the time the day is over. You know I'm proud of you, man. You used to join the singing challenges all the time. You really came up. And that's the best story Queen could have read here. The worst possible thing somebody could say is you suck. I had the privilege of having a family who didn't tell me I sucked. Other people gave me positive and some negative comments. But when it comes down to it, who cares. You're not doing it for anybody else. You're doing it for yourself.
  17. but Goodbye Afternoon is the one
  18. all of them........
  19. Our voices are more adjustable than people give them credit. Do not fall into the trap of wanting to sound "Just like ----------" . None of the singers you posted sound "Just like" the other. It is the style and delivery. If you have already been trained Classical making the transition to another style should be easier for you than those of us without proper training.
  21. better yet.... my whole EP (that song included)
  22. This is your que to inspire Jarom... share that tune you posted a few months back that was really good brother!
  23. I had severe depression all because I wanted to sing but I was to scared to even in my own home. Once I started to sing my family told me to stop and called me the worst singer they had ever heard, that didn't boost my confidence much but I kept going...... now they ask me to sing
  24. So it seems with some folk... I think its weird. The first time I grew a beard in my life... and its weird. Can't make any promises... not sure I'll roll with it for long... if women like it though, I'm in!
  25. I think just doing the exercises will get her out of it. Once I started doing the exercises properly and then trying some of my favorite songs and getting better at them, little by little, I would get more confident. By the way, looking very distinguished with the stubble!
  26. ... He is a beginner Bob!? Not if you are a beginner. C'mon Bob, get serious. Queen... start training and you will build confidence by watching yourself grow as a singer and you will go through the normal process of building confidence. One thing is for sure, worrying about how you sound when your doing scales is the LAST thing to worry about. If you can't get past that, then forget it. There is no chance. Pick yourself up, be strong, keep your chin up and get going. This might help you... notice point #3.
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