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    You have a great voice! Good choice of song too. However, most of your singing and resonance is being placed in your throat, in more of a speech mode. This will make higher nd lower notes more difficult, even if your more relaxed chest voice range is easy to control. It's also apparent in some of the dynamics of your plosives, the low level of breath suppport, and some of your curbing vowels (vowels resonating further back). You are, however, always on pitch in the more comfortable parts of that range. What I hear you need is better resonant placement, more lifted to the soft palate and a bit forward. A bit more push or lockdown in the diaphram area (your solar plexus specifically) will support that better resonant placement and give your voice more body too. But that's only a start. One way to begin training yourself to resonate and support in this way is to start humming songs while buzzing your lips. This is called "Tracking". Another that I teach is to place a finger across your bottom lip and try to sing up and over it. Are you training? Do you have a teacher? I highly suggest you check out the course, The Four Pillars of Singing, created by the owner of this forum.
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    Agreed. There is a lovely voice here, but it isn't being utilized to its full aesthetic potential. Draven is correct on his point about resonance. You are resonanting too much in a lower position ( throaty )... with a little bit of good direction and practice, you can learn to lift your resonance to higher positions where it can sort of "float" more. A more "top down" resonance is more maneuverability of your voice because your resonance will not be tethered by the bulk of a more primitive, throaty position. The result of this will also be a much more beautiful timbre and sound color in your voice, in particular for this kind of singing in your sample. Yes, my program The Four Pillars of Singing absolutely will help you if you choose to make a commitment to the training.
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    Hey guys, This is one of my tracks, just so you can see what my focus is. I am doing rock / hard rock. I have been away from it for about 6 years and just starting with a new band. I have always had issues in the higher register but the new band calls for it. I'm always looking to improve, any tips are much appreciated!
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    Hello, TMVW! Finally I found a forum that is active and help people out! It's nice to meet you, I'm Gedas. So the situation is this: I've been singing for like 3 months. I've been writing songs (Rapping) for like 4 or 5 years and used to do rap songs in my native language (I'm from Lithuania). Now I'm transfering my creative zone into English language.And since I love music itself, I want to learn as many aspects of them as possible (But taking one by one and making it to a professional level). Now I Work only on singing/speaking/rapping and writing songs, sometimes I pick up a guitar or synth. So the thing is this- I'll post a link for a private video where I sang my own wrote song (instrumental is made by Encore beatmaker). I just used it for a purpose of learning and creating, no final released products. And i wanted more opinions from other people, since the only two or three people that heard me singing are my vocal coach and one or two friends. Where does the beautiful sound/energy comes from? Or lets say- where I'm singing, what drains that energy and that sound? It doesn't feel like talking anymore but it's still not that energetic, beautiful resonant singing. Link: I'm working on my enunciation hard because ohhh boy, I used to fall back in my throat a little bit, mumble words , speak quiet and + I'm native Lithuanian. Every single critique is appreciated, I need to grow in best ways possible! P.S. I sound like inbetween talking/shouting and singing. Like I'm not speaking, neither I'm singing with beauty in the voice. Is it because I'm forcing my throat too much and not working my breathing efficiently if am using it at all?
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    Improving resonance is not going to directly produce a natural vibrato, BUT... it is hard to have nice vibrato, without good resonance. Good resonance is one of the "ingredients" to getting vibrato to work and sound good.
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    I noticed a bit of strain there too. Get a cocktail straw and start humming those parts with the straw in your mouth. Don't push. There should be minimal air coming out of teh straw, and it should'nt feel like you're pushing once you can relax those notes properly. To test if you're balancing the air and relaxing well, you can hold your nose. When holding your nose, there shouldn't be a major change in pressure from when not holding your nose. I know this sounds really strange, but it does so many great things for you. If you use it on warmups, it cuts down your warmup time to 5 to 10 minutes because of the push-back gently stretching out every muscle you engage. If you use it like I described above, for training a song, it is an incredibly helpful assitant in getting proper resonant placement, tuning your formant, relaxing any tension, balancing air pressure, and more -- in short, training your body not to push on those higher notes, but just sing them without tension intead. I suggest using it for cooling down after an hour or more of singing too. However, don't do it for more than 10 minutes at a time. The gentle stretching I talked about will become more like power yoga, and you'll end up wearing yourself out instead of helping.
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    Just to be straight, do you want tips BEFORE you practice with the band? Kicking it with the band is the best way to go first. You and the band need to be in sync. Not you and your imagination or you and Karaoke. Record the band with you singing and without so you can practice at home with the recording. Or is the band not even going to work on it if they think you cannot sing it? Changing key is also an option if it is too high for you at the moment. What you presented here does sound like a solid starting point.
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    I have never sang before, or have taken it seriously and do not know how to sing properly. I don't really know anything about singing because it's something I never do, but my sister kept on playing 'Dangerous Woman' and the whole song got stuck in my head, so I sang to it. It's only 10 seconds of audio, but that's what memory was left on my phone. Do you think I have some talent? Is it something I should take up? I don't really have any hobbies so that's why I ask, kind of want to start doing things but I am only assessing where my strengths and weaknesses currently are at. Thanks for your response! New Recording 5.m4a
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    That definition sucks in my opinion. It makes no sense. If someone trains to become really good at something; singing, gymnastics, dancing, investing, painting, etc... they have not developed talent? This definition seems to suggest that you can't develop or enhance inherent talent. If that is their meaning, it's absurd. There is inherent talent and there is developed / trained talent. Neither of which you won't be able to capitalize on if you don't train regardless.
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    Do you want to learn how to sing? It's not something that most people can just do. They practice. Talent is developed. I haven't heard the song, but I assume that's by Ariana Grande. She has one of the most impressive voices in mainstream music today. I've been following her for like 9 years. She developed that voice. She has been singing since she was a kid. She used to actually perform for her parents every few days. She's also had lessons for years. See that? Even she recognized the importance of training. You start out with the desire and then practice to get better.
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    There's far too little in that recording to determine if singing comes mroe naturally to you or not. However, it's not about talent, rather it's a decision. Unless they have some sort of physical impairment preventing them from doing so, anyone can learn to sing well. Is it something you want to do? If you want to learn to sing, then do it. There's an incredible program linked on this site called The Four Pillars of Singing. There are also a lot of vocal coaches here, including myself. As for choosing a hobby in general: Is there something you really enjoy? Is there something you're naturally attracted to? Is there something you have been told you have a god-given natural talent for? As I said before, it's not really about talent, but rather about making a decision. However, if you have a natural gift for something you know you enjoy, then pursuing that thing can be a real pleasure too.
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    Hi guys, long time no see. I thought I'd post a very recent live recording of myself for the fun of it. This is me joining up on vocals with an Icelandic band called Rökkur (translates roughly to "Dusk") last weekend in a pub called Bar 11. We did many 70s and 80s rock songs that night. This is one you all know - called Thunderstruck by AC/DC ! Let me know what you think
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    I still have a bit of a difficult time handling distorted lines that go down in pitch and maintaining the distortion. I sometimes get to thin sounding. That's what Brian Johnson does as well, but I'd prefer not to. I'm going to work on it.
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    Yes, that's probably correct. It can actually help to think falsetto, but then really try to project to your voice and make it as loud as you can while bending at the waist and knees slightly each time you sing a line. And it can also help to think that you just want to go for it and basically scream your lungs out. Here's another tip, ask a band if you can try to sing Back in black and don't expect to nail it until after many, many tries and tell your band mates that you're just experimenting with this. That's what I did. They'll just be happy to play a song like this because it's a fun guitar song . The lines are so high that it's impossible to land in chest voice and singing this stuff with a band is the only way for you to see all the difficulties of this type of singing style. If you're just practising this at home, you may THINK that you're covering all issues but might found out that some things are missing when you try this with a band.
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    Hello! So I just recorded 2 tunes (first takes, lots of mistakes, but i just wanted to record something) Im looking to sing with my band and would like to know if im on the right track (since this is a type of register i've never used in a live/public setting so i dont know if the vocal placement for these songs is correct). These songs are somewhat outside my singing comfort zone and what we usually play (in terms of vocal range and registers), but i would love to expand my repertoire. To give an idea my most demanding song right now is toxicity (SOAD)(with some chest pulling here and there). I've been a musician for 11 years but only been singing for 5 years now, and only had proper vocal training for about a year (not currently) mostly focusing on pitch, correct breathing, chesty high notes, etc... but nothing of this kind, so there is this desire to get into these types of songs. Also, the "technique" im using for both songs feels (in my throat) the same to me, but it somehow feels more suited for the high notes heard in the scorpions tune, than in the skid row one. so I would love to know (if someone can give some input on this) why do i get two seemingly different results with the same technique? Feedback is greatly appreciated! Thank you Jesse
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    Jesse, The skid row song: - ? lacking any musculature. You have to ask yourself why this is so falsetto-ish. I get the feeling that YOU don't have to do this. That you have the ability to bring more musculature / TA to bare into this entire performance. You are choosing to sing on the edges of your vocalis which is a mystery. It says more about what is going on in your head then your capabilities... that is just a gut feel. There are some fleeting moments when the vocals connect better, but then you back off to this falsetto position. - Dan is correct about resonance, but if you bring in more musculature support, resonance will suddenly "pop" better and "sit in", in addition to intonation. As well as so many other elements in your phonation package will come together. The singing is a mess because there is no framework, no musculature support. You can't expect to sing this song, or just about any song, in pur falsetto. So what do you do to fix that? You find a good training program and teacher if you can, and you begin to workout. - What are you doing for training? ... What training techniques are you working with on a regular basis that can help you to strengthen your belt musculature, your ability to throat shape vowels ( narrowing ) and can strengthen your ability to maintain compression? It sounds like you are not doing any resistance training to my ears. Are you just singing songs ONLY? If so, that isn't going to cut it for you... Very few people can get by by ONLY singing songs. The purpose of training is to hasten your physical strength and motor skills required to support singing like this. If you were my student and were using The Four Pillars of Singing, I would be putting you on these routines right here. see the video capture. The Scorps: - Honestly... the same thing. It's a mess. Make a commitment to TRAIN, ... practice some vocal training techniques or no one can help you. I am really just giving you the "tough love". Protecting your feelings isn't going to help you. Being straight up, honest and telling you like it is, is the only thing that really has a chance to help you, provided that after you get that message, you take the steps that have been recommended.
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    I'm hearing the same thing as Daniel. I especially hear a drastic difference on the higher notes. It's as if you're trying to relax by modifying your placement a lot more towards head voice, and the end result is actually causing even more tension and instabliity on those notes. Edge it forward just a bit. Focus your vowels either right at where your hard and soft palates meet, or just behind that (depending on the sound color you want). If you're feeling a lot of tension in the neck, then you need to be transfering that extra pressure to both your soft palate and pushing into your solar plexus. If you really want balance your air rpessure, relaxation, etc, try singing the song through a cocktail straw while holding your nose andrelaxing (not pushing extra air through the straw). I don't suggest doing it more than 5 minutes at a time, perhaps a few times a day, because it stretches out every single muscle you're using too. But it can be an amazing asistant to singing a great vocal balance.
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    I agree with Daniel. There's nothing specific to point out in any one part of the song. Overall, however, you tended to yell on the louder higher notes. Finding either a comfortable belt or strong mixed resonance for those parts (which were very prominant at the beginning), would make this song much easier for you to sing and tighten it up quite a bit. As for not singing as long as you wanted to on the last note, if it's from running out of air, then there is one exercise you can start doing to expand your lung capacity. Breathe in by slightly tightening your abs and focusing the air into your lower back, kidneys, or glutes. This should naturally put most of the air into your obliques or lower ribs. Then make a very strong "sss" sound while pushing the air forward into your solar plexus. The "sss" is meant to be a type of compression that holds back most of the air you're trying to push out. This will compress your lung and open up all the tiny little pockets of air, effectively streching them and giving you more lung gcapacity over time. The idea is, with proper gottal/subglottal pressure balance, you should be able to sing a note at any strength for about as long as you can exhale in the lung capacity exercise. This got me up to being able to belt for 43 seconds. However, the tension you have in your voice on higher notes is an issue, and holding you back a lot. Focus on better placement, relaxing the tension in your neck, and solid breath support from pushing into the solar plexus. The breath support doesn't have to make you super loud. If you balance the pressure correctly, it will simply stablize the note at any volume.
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    Sounds like your searching for different voices. Its kind of all over the place resonance wise. With some work keeping it "in the pocket" i think you would have an easier time
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    It was good but pitchy in spots. I think if you could find mixed voice in a those spots it would be a little tighter..
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    Hey guys, I'm posting this as a sort of "hey all, long time no see, I'm doing well" hahah EDIT :Also, I don't ask for critique or review, I'm just showing what I've been doing for others who want to listen or study. I think someone posting about what they think the distortion is, or how it compares to theirs does not help my singing directly. I repeat myself "I posted this as a "hey all, this is what I've been doing" because the "tell your gains" thread is dead. If after this clarification my thread still belongs here, then I'm ok with that, but I just wanted to make it clear. I just wanted to debate singing and technique in general, or whatever someone wanted to ask ( about my vocal fold gap, reflux, etc ), cheers everyone! . I've been working hard on my voice as always, carrying weight up and my headvoice twangy range. My max weight is on B4 and headvoice range topping on E5 on good days, with a solid D#5. I have a vocal fold gap ( acording to my stroboscopy on 2015 ) and I don't know the current state of it. It's a lot better, sound, strength and stamina has gotten waaay better. I still feel my voice a lot different though, I don't know if its because of the vocalis muscle that's grown stronger or what, but I wouldn't give up the stability of my voice now or my sound, for the flexibility or -strained- range I had before ( 2014-2015 ) Well, I come to tell you guys... I at last found some kind of distortion that feels healthy in my voice, and is sustainable. I've tried the "throat singing" type of distortion ( false folds and cartilage, Hetfield style ) but it hurts and always leaves me with air leak and poor stamina for days or a week or two, even. I've tried creaking distortion but as I already mentioned, my voice is kind of f***ed up in some way, and I don't know if it's normal but I have a hard time coordinating fry, lol. and when I manage, it leaves my voice very worn out if done for 20 minutes. This kind of distortion I found is probably like the rattle described in CVT terms ( kind of what Jorn Lande does most of the time ), where something ( I think arytenoid cartilage ? ) vibrates, but in a different way, I feel like the upper and side walls of my pharynx contracting, which makes something vibrate and produce this "overlay". I t's still a thin grit and I have to put quite a bit of effort in it to make the walls contract enough to make the sound but I guess with time and patience the strength will come and I'll be able to put more "anger" into it coordinated with vocal weight. I must mention that doing this distortion makes my voice last longer, stamina is better, and closure is getting better too. I feel my muscles are working out and getting stronger, and I have an easier time mixing into my upper range. All this change in a span of 5 days, so it's important to note. I hope you guys like how it sounds, this is the fifth day since I found it, videos are from yesterday
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    Thanks for listening. To be honest I ran through this song quite a few times trying different things. My first approach was heavier and more matter of fact rather than soft. I viewed a few covers by other people to get a handle on the acoustic guitar rhythm. Most of the other singers used a lighter approach and I guess I let myself be influenced by them. I will rerecord this and see how it goes.
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    No one has ever told me HONESTLY what they think about my singing voice. I'm scared to share with friends because some people I show act like it's bad but they are just being polite about it. So please someone just tell me what I need to work on so I can perfect my passion and share it with friends! https://m.soundcloud.com/illwill6
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    Is James Hetfield one of your influences? I get a bit of a Metallica vibe from the song which is why I'm asking. Sick song and you got a good tone. You came to the right place if you want to increase your range. By the way I love the Christian lyrics of the song considering I'm a Christian myself.
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    On most of those songs there was too much processing and not my style to really hear your voice. I was able to listen to Stand by me. That sounded pretty good. It does show that you can keep a pitch and you have a pretty good tone in the lower range. To give you a perspective of other peoples opinion........My wife likes to hear me sing, But most of the songs I like she cannot stand the song itself. It is so frustrating to have someone who likes to hear you sing but constantly telling you to sing something else. So even if you have a good voice there are people who will not like it. It is just something that singers have to deal with. If you have a passion for singing keep doing it. Record your voice WITHOUT processing. Notice the things that you think sound good and those things that you do not like and go from there.
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    Exactly, buddy. Keep practicing.
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    Before I jump in, I do want to say that I like your storyteller style. I suspect the biggest culprit in your accent for causing problems is your hard "R" at the end of words, whihc is a consonant that is almost crossed with a vowel. It sounds like you pull the tongue up on that consonant. Most people pull the hard "R" to their throat, so you at least are headed in the right direction! I have a specific exercise to correct this type of issue, but it would be difficult to explain here. I can at least get the most important part here though. It's what I call "relaxed speech." I've used not just to help correct placement and throatiness, but also to change accents. One of my students was from France, where everything is spoken near the back of the tongue. This helped her a LOT. I've also seen it get many people out of their throat when in a tough spot in the recording studio. First, make a soft "g" into /eh/ (geh), and pay attention to where the tongue hits the roof of the mouth. I call that the "resonant spot". I use it as an anchor or default point for vowels. That anchor can be moved a bit further forward or back for sound color, but in general, the vowels will stay anchored to, pointed at, or move around that one point. It should feel like your vowels are being generated in that point and then only outward from there. Try to stay relaxed and speak a whole line of the song from that point, then sing that line into the exact same spot. At first, your speech might remind you of the priest from The Princess Bride. It sounds ridiculous when speaking, but it makes for a solid singing accent. Now try to say problem words, like ones with hard "R" sounds, into that point. Your "aR" should sound more like /ah/oo/. For "eR", it might ssound more like /uh/ou/. The "R", if sung at all, would be at the very very end, closing the word, and not really sung. For the pitchiness on high note, it sounds like you might be moving into a grunt mode, where your neck and glottis tense up to try and "hit" the note. I see this a lot. Try humming into a cocktail straw for those lines, relaxing the throat and neck as much as possible so that the only tension you feel is the solar plexus, then the resonant spot (above), and maybe, just maybe a little bit in the TA muscles. There should be very little air coming out of the straw, even if you hold your nose. You might have to start that at lower volumes at first, just to get used to it. Grunting on high notes is difficult to overcome. I've yet to find an onset that immediately releases that particular type of compression. Isolating the note with Pulse & Release, Wind & Release, Contract & Release, Head to Chest only, Relaxed Speech, The Straw, and more, seem to work sometimes and not others.
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    Your link is a video and I have limited data allowance so sorry cant afford to watch it But I am a native speeking English person and I too worked a lot on my enunciation, and I did a lot of tongue twisters which I have now finished doing and I think it helped me out a lot. they recon that tongue twisters are great for people learning new languages
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    Welcome Gedas, Your video doesn't work. You probably have your privacy settings set. Also, please embed the video into your post. Just copy and paste the "share" link into the post.
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    Wow! Boyz ii Men and I didn't even get to hear it! Who's part was it? Was it Shawn? Was it Wanya? Edit: It wouldn't play at first and I thought it said it was locked, but I heard it. You have a good base, brother. If I would say anything, I would say to try to put more passion into it. The Boyz almost sound like they're crying when they sing this. And try to work on your runs.
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    Your pitch is spot on for the most part. That is the most difficult thing to train in singing, so you've got a 1-up on most people who haven't taken lessons. The thinness you're experience is because you need to be training strength and control of your TA muscles (chest-voice musculature) to be able to carry them up into that range. I don't mean just yelling at full force either, but rather training in how to turn them on without strain - which there's a point where they have to taper off. You can train your body to be able to use TA engagement for that "chesty" sound as high as your head voice can go. On top of TA engagement, Chris also used larynx dampening often, really solid acoustic mode and vowel modification as he went higher, incredible bridging and connecting of teh voice, and very solid breath support. He's also a great example of a singer who trained to completely relax his voice no matter what he was singing. If you want to be able to sing like that, then get determined to learn and start training. Check out The Four Pillars of Singing. it's an incredible program, and you'll get a ridiculous amount of solid instruction for the price.
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    Just wondering if there's anything I can do to improve my performance of this song, thanks in advance!
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    Before I dive into this, where do you feel you're struggling or want to imrpove?
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    Hate to sounds trite and cliche', but if you want to become a singer, odds are... you can. Most people can learn to sing if they train and a very large % of that group can actually learn to sing great. MOST people can learn to sing great with enough time and practice and some study. So like anything in life, you have to be willing to do the work and make the sacrifice.
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    How do you do that sound? There's a comedian who is super good at this too. Always been a mystery to me. Brian Johnson kind of talks in this spot but the comedian who does 'hokey pokey' in ac/dc style speaks totally clean, so it's got to be some kind of coordination.
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    Jonpall, great to see you in here again. Where you been? Don't be such a stranger. Well, I have to say you do have that sort of Brian Johnson thing going on.... NICE JOB. Sort of sounds like a hyper squeezed falsetto...
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    Great to see you are back. One thing though, you forgot to link.the video.
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    Manny! It is great to see you in here again... hope you have been well. I actually have been coaching this song the last two weeks with another singer... I also performed this before in a choral group once. Your Review: - The opening sequence is pitchy and a touch shouty. I like Dan's suggestion to cover to a mixed position more. - Given the genre, I feel like you could be more articulate on the lower parts, "softly, gently, etc.."... its sort of a lost opportunity. - 3:51, nice /i/. - The last falsetto "night" was flat... NO. make sure that last note is straight on. Overall Manny, I think it was a nice performance. I would give it a B+. You have nice interpretations and expression in here that I think a lot of people would likely miss. But the biggest point of improvement in my view would be intonation. Many of the onsets start low and scoop. They come and go quickly, but for a public performance of a theater piece like this, I think you need to get straight in on pitch on your onsets. This is an easy thing to fix.. just pay more attention to it. Good to see you back in here.
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    MDEW, Nice, soft acoustic version. Kinda reminds me a bit of Bob Dylan, but I dare say, your a better singer then Dylan. At this light and soft approach, there is little risk and therefore, little to critique. But I would say this... Why are you allowing your sound color to be so thin Joe? It sounds like there is no larynx dampening and/or added warm vowels to your resonance. I would like to hear this again, same approach, but conscientiously try to "man-up" and warm the sound color. Let's get more beefy modal voice behind this. It is kind of thin and tinny. I don't believe it has to be. Shoot again Joe. Hope this helps.
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    Your welcome, glad you found it helpful.
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    ROBERT IS A REALLY CONSIDERATE AND THOUGHTFUL GUY THAT GAVE ME A LOT OF FREE ADVICE TO HELP ME. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT HURT MY PRIDE A LITTLE BIT. WHAT A GREAT GUY! I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS FORUM TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO GET A REALITY CHECK ON THEIR SINGING AND GOOD ADVISE! ROBERT AND DRAVEN ARE SO COOL!
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    Rodrigo, Given that you have been smoking for only three years, it would be my opinion that the changes in your voice are related more to smoking as opposed to your age. As for the specific chemicals in cigarettes, in the following link, Dr. Kenneth Altman mentions tar and other irritants. Note that he wasn't specific in mentioning the "other irritants". https://www.sharecare.com/health/impact-nicotine-addiction-on-body/how-smoking-impact-my-voice Here's some other links that may be of interest to you : https://www.google.com/search?q=How+many+chemicals+are+in+cigarettes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=what+chemicals+are+in+cigarettes+that+cause+voice+changes Hope this has helped.