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  1. One thing I noticed was a major change in Chris Cornell's abilities, specifically his head voice. Check this clip of 'Beyond the Wheel' from 1990. at about 2:13 he comes in with that head voice part and it sounds... well, pretty fantastic. Cornell has never been terrible. But for me, the head voice is maybe a bit pushed at times, kinda pitchy... But check out this performance from 2010... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crILNt7-kj8 His head voice has improved remarkably! As I say, the other clip from 1990 was alright... But this clip, taken 20 years later, absolutely owns it. Like wine, some singers continue to mature with age...
  2. The very same. Forgot I asked about this I still get emails ocassionally (junk folder). It's worse spamming than SLS actually Still interested in what they teach and if it helped anyone... Again, not gonna buy it but am interested. Since no REAL REVIEWS seem to exist online.
  3. Ronws, Thank you for the kind words. I agree the light-medium sound suits me better and I think gives me far more versatility. It is definitely where my voice sounds best as I apparently am a tenor. All these years I thought I was a baritone, but apparently not... To be honest, I'm glad to be a tenor instead. Now I just need to make the notes more on pitch and more stable. 'She Said' would have had far better guitar playing if I had had a capo instead of barring with my first finger and using the rest to play chords (which made my hands ache a lot). I purchased a capo today in fact, and may update the clip... maybe. What you said about singing better whilst playing guitar is quite interesting. Are you sure it is because your hands have to be doing something or is it because you feel more in control of the music altogether and have a bit more choice. I find that when it's just me playing guitar and singing I feel like I have more options as opposed to when I'm working with a band. I guess this is because I can control the timing and dynamics far better alone. I'm guessing you've played guitar a lot more than I have though, so maybe it is just the need to keep your hands busy. I'm actually not sure where the point was that I started playing guitar and singing in unison. There was a time where if I was playing guitar, the second I open my mouth my entire playing would fall apart. I don't think I could ever pull off complex riffs whilst playing. That is a skill I'm truly envious of.
  4. ... No idea, but separately these ingredients kinda work. In advance, apologies for poor recording quality on all of these. Plan B - She Said: This dude is massively popular in the UK at the moment and just won a 'Brit' Award (which is sort of like a watered down Grammy). I wasn't into him at all until I saw his performance on the show and realised he wasn't just a rapper who tried to sing; this guy could sing really well. I like his high and light configuration. Then when someone told me "Hey, your last name is the same as his real last name... Are you related?" I had to try it. Let me know how you think I did: http://www.box.net/shared/940ru71m1x (As far as I'm aware we aren't relatives btw) Third Eye Blind - Jumper: Just a good song that I heard in the film 'Yes Man'. "Icing over PE-CRET pain" I dunno why I did that, lol: http://www.box.net/shared/4j5ldc55bx Bye Bye Bye - N'Sync: I heard this at a night out at this 90's club recently and thought it'd be fun to try doing just on my guitar. I mess up the guitar a bunch, forgive me: http://www.box.net/shared/vmf5xv38qx I'm interested in what you guys think of these recordings. They are all very short samples, around 1 minute and a half each. No holding back as always. And hey, if you thought "OMG THAT WAS INCREDIBLE AND THERE IS NO WAY THIS GUY CAN IMPROVE... OMFG HE IS GOING TO NUMBER ONE!!!" ...Then you are dilusional, but I'd love to hear from you anyway Peace, Nath.
  5. Regardless Steve, you continue to be a fantastic help to me. Lol Fridix... I was born in Southern England... So I don't even get the cool Manchester or Liverpool accent singing props. I just, as Paul Rudd marvellously put it in Forgetting Sarah Marshall; "SAND LARK ARM FRAM LANDAN!!!" =] Have you heard Liams new band Beady Eye? Surprisingly good... Ya know... for Liam ;)
  6. Thanks for all of the kind words guys. I appreciate it a lot and have worked damn hard to get here. Next goal: I have until September to make myself the best damneds singer who ever walked through those doors =D Matt: I'm not sure if she was or not. It wasn't just her though, which was worrying. I spoke to two of the vocal people, one was an auditioner, the other was the head of vocals who went over things like course logistics and payment and all that junk. This second person never heard me sing but she had the report from the first... I dunno... Maybe she knows better. Eggplant: that's totally it! My first ever teacher was an SLS instructor. This was at a time when I didn't know there were even different vocal techniques... I thought it was all the same (I bet we all did when we started out). 2 years of wasted earnings and time saw very little progress with her. I think the only minor progress I did make was purely due to my increasing confidence whilst singing and not any of her actual technique... I wish I had started with a different methodology... Or at least a better teacher. So now when I'm potentially going to be reverted to that SLS stage... Yeah... Not cool. I'll just play the game and do my own work in 'secret' then come out and totally own! (I dunno how 'secret' I can keep screaming C5's all over the place) I know it's all just labels and stuff... But if they use confusing terminology now... What is the rest going to be like? You know? Rob: Couldn't have done this without you dude!! All of the advice you gave me definitely helped. Ah, confused the videos around... Well after that happened she got me to sing a range exercise and around G4 said "Try singing it in headvoice"... Once again, already was but okay I'll bite. So I did that in falsetto. I didn't mind that so much because it was just her trying to establish what sort of range I had, despite what voice type I use (apparently it's 3 octaves... Cool, right?). Hahaha, I wasn't being rude when asking her for the demo, I just wanted clarification. She was cool with demonstrating. I'll save some of this 'moxie' (great word by the way) for the stage! Act like a BADASS BRITISH ROCKSTAR and things (I need to develop a cockney accent for sh*ts and giggles) I look forward to our next session sometime next week. Ronron: Yeah, I considered the possibility that I just didn't appear to break. I didn't break, even during that range exercise where at the G4 she said to sing in "Headvoice" *cough*falsetto*cough*. So maybe. But she did say, quote: "sounded shouty"... But I know it wasn't. I guess, as you said, it simply wasn't the soft "Hello I'm Justin Timberlake" sound she expected. Ronws: Thank you buddy Your posts are always a great inspiration. Didn't know that about Billy Idol. I guess it goes to show really that what people enjoy is sometimes more important than what is technically amazing. I find myself telling this to my guitarist best friend all of the time... He is of the thought that everything has to be overly complicated and technically amazing... Which most of the best guitar riffs and solos actually aren't. Bloody musical snobbery Steven F: I also owe you a massive thanks for the help you have given me recently. I've seen more improvement in the past few months than I have in my whole time before learning the techniques you showed. I owe you greatly. I can see your point as to why they'd want to see my falsetto, it's just them confusing terminology that made me uncomfortable. Maybe I'm being pedantic. They did mention that it needs strengthening, which I guess translates into "We'll strengthen that out", so I look forward to that too. Would have definitely asked a male teacher to give me an example had one been present. I had actually hoped the person who did my assessment would have been the teacher who sang 'Show me how to live' at the open day. That would have been badass! I am very hopeful that I get to have him as one of my teachers whilst there. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if he trains with TVS. His mic technique was just as Rob showed me, definite twang use, amazing headvoice on that chorus. An incredible performance. Also, as Rob mentioned, he has history with the school, notably in getting them a sponsorship deal with TC Helicon. The dude was actually using one of the TC Helicon pedals during the performance... It did make me think 'How much of this is him and how much is the pedal doing?' a bit... But it was a great performance anyway. Wish I knew his name to see if anyone had heard of him before or anything... No matter. Also, what you said about losing falsetto totally makes sense. I hadn't done falsetto in so long that when I realised I'd have to sing in it, it took me a couple of seconds to remember how to do it. First time I accidentally did headvoice again, lol! So, whilst I've not lost it, not having used it in a while meant I'd momentarily forgotten how to do it. I actually consider that a good sign, from a bridging standpoint.
  7. This may be a bit in an inappropriate section and may in many ways be an inappropriate post and stuff, but meh... I'm pretty steemed about some stuff that happened in this audition and would like to share thoughts. So I just got back from my audition in London for university (I shall not name which). Yadayadayada, I got in. I GOT IN!! I GOT IN!! Wyyaaaaaaayyy!! Go me!!! Wooo!!! Okay, so I'm happy about that... But wow... after today, do I want to go there? First off, I do the song they demand I do, 'Isn't she lovely' by Stevie Wonder and I do it acappella in the original key... a challenge and all, but I've been working on getting everything like the dipthongs and stuff right and all... It's fine. Not amazing, passable (obviously, as I passed). I'm not straining, I'm in a light mass phonation head voice (take note: HEAD VOICE). No belting, no shouting, no strain etc. This lady, Kelly, she reckons she is called, is all like "Try it in your headvoice!". So I'm thinking "WTF!?!?!, I'm all about the head voice up in 'ere" (except not so gangsta style, that was purely for comical effect). So instead of being rude I politely ask "Please demonstrate what YOU [emphasis] mean by 'head voice'" She proceeds to do falsetto and confidently tells me "Yes, that is headvoice". Erm... so I'm pretty sure Robert addressed this in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow4VnbIezF4 I mean, cummon! Anyway, I do it in my crappy falsetto which sounds awful. Females always seem to assume I can sing amazingly well in falsetto. It's like they forget that my male baritone voice is a bit different to their female soprano. Maybe they shouldn't be teaching guys, at least not in the same way they were taught to sing, which would obviously be inappropriate due to the physiological differences. This has really put me off going to this place. I still will, but now only for the whole 'networking' side. They also drummed in the whole "Mixed voice is a thing what properly does exist and isn't just there as a device to line the pockets of Seth Riggs and his contemporaries, yay!!!" ... Again, addressed in the same video posted above, I do believe. So more SLS stuff... W00p!!!! I got on OH SO WELL with that last time :/ Mental! At the open day they had a dude there, teacher he was, doing Audioslaves 'Show me how to live' clearly doing the same headvoice thing which wasn't falsetto. This school is more confused than the pokemon I used to have on my gameboy (if you get that reference then congratz, you are a 90's kid ) Also (this is kinda laughable) I mention that I've been attempting to use aryepiglottic constriction. To which the woman, who is head of vocals, replies "Well try not to get TOO technical..." Excuse me, but 'what'? Am I wasting my time here? So, you know, I was all politness and everything so as not to ruin my processing onto the course. But so far, not impressed. Am I being some over reactive jerk person by disregarding all of this completely? Maybe. I don't mean to come off as that, but I'd rather not go somewhere where they have little to no idea what they are talking about. I'm definitely not the greatest singer in the world, but I'm sure I understand these simple concepts which seem to have perplexed my 'superiors'. If nothing else, I hope this was worth a giggle or something. Happy Chinese New Year!! :D
  8. Hey, great work man. Really good. You really put your own stamp on this song. Wish there was more I could say to you in terms of advice. But nope... Just liked your recording.
  9. Some insightful stuff there Ronws Nice to know someone else on here in the same boat (though I assume, in some ways, we all feel like that) Although I always prefer when someone is honest with me instead of sugar coating things with niceness and social etiquette, as that can only halt progress. I've tried learning songs note for note, in order to stay on pitch, but it doesn't help. I've tried singing into tuners, but am always at least 20cents +/-, have no idea how to make it more stable (I saw a post recently where Steven F. said to be around 4cents +/-). I've no idea how to get it better. Also, I'm not sure exactly how that would translate into actual singing to be honest, unless you sing with a tuner there and ensure you are always hitting the right notes, providing the tuner could even keep up.
  10. Ronws: Thank you. For some reason the second stanza is just somehow easier to sing also. Isn't that weird? I'm not sure what is different. I didn't realise I had my own style lol, maybe it's my poor ability shining through and manifesting itself in some way. I dunno, anyway there were some pitching issues all over the place. I've really no idea how to change that. Any advice? I cannot hear it whilst I'm singing. Analog: It's for this university course in vocals at a place in London called Tech Music. I dunno if I'll get in :/ Even if I do, I want to be really good before I go there, as it is mostly about networking.
  11. Alright. So I've been working with Rob Lunte. It's coming along, I can bridge and stuff now. It's just transitioning all of this into actual songs. I have a real important audition coming up at the beginning of February which I'm incredibly worried about. I wanted to upload stuff so you can all offer advice. I recorded this just with my webcam mic and windows sound (ahhhh, good old windows sound). No cuts, no editing, nothing (I need to learn these skills) Belief - John Mayer http://www.box.net/shared/g14jodxly0 Dream On - Aerosmith http://www.box.net/shared/2xpkjor3gz Isn't she lovely - Stevie Wonder http://www.box.net/shared/4f3v6v7udu I have to do this song for the audition and this recording is the first ever try I've had of any section of the song (except maybe for drunkenly shouting 'ISN'T SHE LARVELIE' on a drunken saturday night. Barely know the lyrics and I think it is obvious I am reading them along and stuff. Needs to be worked on. Be BRUTALLY honest. I need it now more than ever.
  12. Yeah that's cool. I wish I could get nodules yet still manage to sound as amazing as Mercury or Jackson did.
  13. What is interesting about this is that Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson both had nodules. Yet they are supposedly technically skilled?
  14. Dear Videohere, I could not help but notice the following did not make this list: -David Bowie -Peter Gabriel -Ville Valo -Sean Morgan -Vince Neil -Ray Charles (maybe not massively rock, but still) I understand that this is probably some sort of mistake. Please amend it immediately :P
  15. Rob, sorry I haven't been in touch over the past ew days. This whole 'working over the xmas period' thing is killing me. I'm gonna check my rota tonight and let you know as soon as I get back when I'm available. Awesome, I'm glad you feel I'm making progress. I do also, currently using my friends pro tools software to make some decent recordings (at least, during the small amount of time I have off, it'll probably have to wait until new years now :[ )
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