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  1. I'm not asking because I'm not patient, I'm asking because I don't want to get anything wrong and damage my voice. How long (roughly) does it take until ACTUAL progress is made?
  2. Okay, so I'll keep on with 4 Pillars and keep practicing sirens, and hopefully my head voice will get stronger. Thanks.
  3. Hello everyone, I've been working through 4 Pillars in the past couple of day. One problem that I've always been faced with is breaking into a falsetto whenever I'm in my head voice, so I've been using 4 Pillars to try and work on that. I feel I've got a bit better lately, but I'm not sure. So here's my head voice, am I still falsetto-ing or is this a clearer, less breathy tone than falsetto?
  4. yes, I did mean C4, sorry typo. Or at least I think it was C4, I couldn't see the piano keys but it sounded like a middle C. So you think I'm on the right track in terms of exercises? Well, 5 tone scales are a bit dull but whatever gets the job done I guess And I am fairly sure I'm going to get Four pillars if I can fit it into my budget. Based on the contents page it will include lots of helpful stuff. Thanks. I really don't know how the changes you're going through affects vocal training. I went through those changes early - 5th or 6th grade I think. But I wasn't doing vocal training back then and I can't remember how it affected my voice. 5 tone exercises have their place - they promote nice relaxed singing in a narrow range. I do some 5 tone descending patterns in my low range as the very first part of my warmup. However, I don't think you need to restrict your voice to any kinds of exercises or any kinds of singing. Your Vocalis is getting bigger now and you are having trouble maintaining adduction which is causing the cracking. Here is a suggestion to maintain adduction: Do some very light sirens up and down through your break on an "NG". Like start on A3 and fluctuate up and down, first a narrow range, and then widen the siren so that the high part of the siren goes above C4. Don't push or strain - nice and slow and easy. Keep supporting with a nice even flow of breath. If you feel a strain, stop and try again in a minute, or the next day. Light singing will minimize the depth of vibration in the Vocalis which should help keep the folds adducted while you siren through the break. This won't be a falsetto exercise - it is a chest to head connection exercise ( I have to give credit to Tony O'hora for this exercise ) Thanks, I'll try that at some point. Right now I sound like a siren anyway XD Just to clarify, 'NG' is the position with the tongue up against the roof of the mouth as if in swallowing, correct?
  5. yes, I did mean C4, sorry typo. Or at least I think it was C4, I couldn't see the piano keys but it sounded like a middle C. So you think I'm on the right track in terms of exercises? Well, 5 tone scales are a bit dull but whatever gets the job done I guess And I am fairly sure I'm going to get Four pillars if I can fit it into my budget. Based on the contents page it will include lots of helpful stuff. Thanks.
  6. It wasn't something I didn't want to hear, if any advice from an accomplished coach is something in want to hear. I certainly didn't come to refute what he says, I agree with him partly because he's very experienced and partly because it makes sense given my maturation patterns in the past. I came here mainly to make sure that my muscles do grow by getting some more exercises and the like. I am content with what he has recommended in terms of doing simple scales and exercises while I wait for my voice to stabilise, but I was wondering what people here had to offer in terms of improving vocal cord strength. He may be a good teacher but I doubt he knows every vocal exercise in existence that is applicable to my situation.
  7. Oh I'll still do exercises and things. 5 tone scales on lip trills and 'zzzzz' mainly. But I also do vocal fry and things. I don't think he meant for me not to do anything, he just wanted me to do those exercises for a while to get my vocal muscles stronger, then start looking at other things. Just so it's not a waste of time and money having lessons before I've built a foundation myself.
  8. my muscles are not physiologically ready to be trained, Your vocal folds are quite capable of resisting air otherwise you couldn't speak. There's a lot more to it than just getting stronger vocal muscles. Well I still get voice cracks from time to time when speaking and my speaking voice still sounds like a pubescent teenager not an adult. My vocal folds can resist air yes, but not much, not enough, not for long enough periods of time and not well enough to create a sound that resonates properly..
  9. my muscles are not physiologically ready to be trained, I'm sorry, I just don't buy that. At 17 you're past puberty. Your larynx grew and so did your vocal folds. I doubt it, I had to have testosterone injections to induce growth because my family (on my dad's side) have a genetic abnormality causing puberty to be very late. It happened with my brother too. And at 16 my dad looked very young. Puberty is not set in stone, I'm past most of it, but maturation can continue up until 22 in some cases. Believe me, if what I look and sound like now is my fully developed adult form I will be very disappointed (I'm still about the height of a 14 year old so...)
  10. It has not actually weakened my voice, it is just that the growth of the larynx during maturation is usually much faster than that of vocal muscles apparently. So the muscles are no weaker than before, it is just that they are taking a greater strain due to the rapid expansion of the larynx which means more breath is passing the vocal cords which they can't resist without breaking. So if anything my voice is stronger than it was when I was younger, it is just not balanced and not very flexible.
  11. Oh I don't doubt I will, but the thing is, right now my muscles are not physiologically ready to be trained, in a few months they probably will be. After which point I will still break a lot but I will be more equipped to overcome it with technique and training, which can be acquired through coaching. Right now, training my muscles would be ineffective as, even if I trained better than anyone in history, you can't produce the sound until you have the physical capability to do so. Like how no matter how hard you train, sometimes(not often, but sometimes) in a sporting event it will literally come down to who's the biggest. Same principle really. I think that's the hypothesis anyway. By the way, I know I should be asking Robert this but he isn't online and I don't want to bother him with my financial queries, how much did you pay for 4 Pillars? Which version do you use and did you use that TMV discount? (I could just about afford that with the remainder of my birthday money). Thanks!
  12. Well, it seems to make sense, and he is one of the few people who knows what my voice sounds like. People already overburden the NHS with trivial issues, I don't think asking why I can't sing above C3 right now is a good use of a doctor's resources. Here's his website: http://paulmcfadden.co.uk/ And here's some reviews: http://www.yell.com/biz/paulmcfadden-vocal-singing-teacher-piano-teacher-leigh-7020952/
  13. 4 Pillars is expensive given my budget, but I have some money left over and a little bit more in my bank account now so I'll see what I can do. So you say there are exercises for this specific problem? I might buy it then, if it isn't too pricey, if not I might have to wait til Christmas, by which point my teacher said my vocal muscles would probably have grown naturally anyway. I don't think that it is bullshit, he's an accomplished teacher with 100% five-star reviews I doubt he'd make shit up. And it does seem consistent with what I've seen in my speaking voice (I was late hitting puberty so my voice is still maturing somewhat from teenager to adult) and would explain why my voice breaks like it does.
  14. Yes...though I have only had one lesson, in which the teacher said that I just need to wait for my vocal cords to strengthen. Sorry, but that link does not address what I asked at all. It basically says "your larynx gets bigger" which I know very well as my teacher told me all about it which I said in the original post (it also wrongly says that the vocal cords are muscles, they are soft tissue). I was asking about particular exercises that can strengthen the specific muscles in question, which that link does not mention (it doesn't even relate to singing). My teacher says that in a few months they will strengthen naturally, and of course there isn't a substitute for patience, but I wondered if there were any exercises to speed things along.
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