Draven Grey

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  1. Advice for an Inexperienced Song Writer

    Advice: Start training. You say you can't afford it, but $20/mo is next to nothing for great training like The Four Pillars of Singing. You're not singing in the above post. You're talking with a bit of rhythm and some different pitches now and then. If you want to sing, then put time, effort, and money into learning how.
  2. Over compulsive about vocal health

    They are different muscle groups. Chest voice relies on your Thyroid Arytenoids (TA) to contract for losening and thickening the vocal cords. Head voice relies on the Cricothyroid (CT) to lengthen and stretch your vocal cords. "Mixed" means to add TA muscles into a CT placement. If you're truly concerned about damage, you need to see an ENT. Doing exercises without knowing what exactly is damaged (or not) puts you at risk of making things much worse.
  3. Over compulsive about vocal health

    See an ENT. If they say everything is fine, then you simply need good, solid training. It takes guidance and time to build strength, coordination, placement, and overall good singing technique.
  4. I have rhinitis & a deviated septum please review my singing

    With proper placement, you should be able to hold your nose and get the same sound as without holding it. Rhinitis and a deviated septum really doesn't change much besides having to manage allergy symptoms a bit more closely. You're not lifting the voice properly, likely singing a lot from the throat with more speech-like vowels. The harder you push, the more you're shouting more than singing. I address that in my first Singing Basics video. If you want to build lung capacity get a cocktail straw. Breath in a low as possible (lower back, not shoulders), expanding your lower ribcage. Then, blow the entire breath out through the straw as hard as you can do without any pain. After a week, you'll start to notice you can do it a lot longer than when you started. As with the straw exercise, you can do this multiple times a day. You'll also notice some big differences in general after using the straw exercise for a while, which I describe in my warmups video. That one is all about learning to relax, get good glottal closure, balance air-pressure, and hold proper resonant placement for the pitch.
  5. I have rhinitis & a deviated septum please review my singing

    Are you training with anyone or any particular system? I too have rhinitis and a deviated septum, but have been singing professionally for 27 years. The problems you describe sound more like lack of proper placement and support. The videos linked below can help, but won't be nearly as effective as having a good coach, solid course of study, or both, like in The Four Pillars of Singing. Check these out, and let me know if you have questions: http://rocksinginglessons.com/videos/
  6. Weird head voice?

    Until you can afford singing lessons, be careful about simply getting tips from Youtube and the like. However, if that's all you have, then make sure they are reputable teachers. The first video on my Rock Singing Lessons playlist can help, as can any of Robert Lunte's videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDravenGrey https://www.youtube.com/user/roblunte
  7. Baritone practice High C

    Didn't you just say tat you weren't sure if it sounded good? If you don't want advice, then why did you post? However, if you're willing to learn, I've taught for years, and the advice I gave you is exactly what you need to improve your high C. What do you mean when you say you've "begun training on that high C"? Are you taking lessons, and going through specific exercise routines proven to help you reach your goal? Or are you doing this by trial and error? The latter isn't training, But the former, like getting someone experienced and who has a reputation for getting results to walk you through exercises for the advice I gave you, is training.
  8. Baritone practice High C

    It doesn't sound good until those concerns go away ("strain", "difficult", "try not to..."). Start learning how to lean into your head voice resonance more, and slowly turning on the TA muscles as a separate thing. Until you can turn on your TA muscles less than full strength, and hold a head voice position/configuration while doing it, you're simply yelling. Appoggio exercises can also help.
  9. Weird head voice?

    You're very pitchy in general, and your resonant placement is completely incorrect. Look into eartraining for vocals. There are many voice apps that will play a pitch or interval and then let you try to match it. Also, humming into a pitch wheel can help you match pitch as well. Winging in pitch is a listening skill, more than it is coordination or strength like the rest of singing. You head voice sounds off because of resonant placement being in the throat vs being in the soft palate. Hold a finger to your bottom lip and try to sing up and over it. This usually will point your vowels up into the soft palate and get you out of your throat. Also, start humming and buzzing your lips through songs 2/3 the time, instead of just singing them. It will help you get used to a better placement of you voice, among other things good for singing. Keep taking lessons. Get them to show you how to place your resonance and vowels better for singing, and give you exercises specifically meant for learning to sing in pitch.
  10. If you practice the wrong way, you will definitely develop bad habits. That's not to say that you can't learn good habits too, but trial and error is a very ineffective way to learn. Training is different than practicing. In training, you follow a training regiment that gets you to the results you want i(using both strength and coordination) with tried and proven routines/exercises. Two things: The examples you gave are not complete. The first sample has no voice. But it really doesn't matter because... You're singing from your throat, rather than the soft palate. The following video can help, but a short youtube video will fall drastically short of what training can do for you. If you truly want to learn to sing, The Four Pillars of Singing will be the best purchase you've ever made.
  11. You can sing in pitch, and that's a big one! You ask if you should continue practicing. Practicing what? If you practice bad habits, you reinformce bad habits. If you practice good techniques, you reinforce good techniques. If you practice guesswork, you reinforce guesswork (which is usually full of bad habits). You need to train if you truly want to get better. Check out The Four Pillars of Singing. It not only gives you a complete and comprehensive course of study, it also explains why you're doing each thing. Your placement, tension, choice of muscle groups for different things, breath support, and and air pressure balance, are all off. Here's a good start. Just know that it only scratches the surface, give you a basic feel for things, and gets you pointed in the right direction. You won't learn solid technique from short YouTube videos.
  12. 7 Great Ways To Accelerate Your Songwriting Skills

    Great tips! The only one I take issue with is drinking alcohol and then coffee. There are quite a few breathing techniques to help you get to the same place euphoricly, and some great meditations to help with both creativity and focus. You don't need to chemically alter your system to do so. Having coached bands in their careers across the world for many years, song-writing was definitely one thing that came up a lot. I couldn't recommend alcohol or coffee to minors. I'm not suggesting you are, but rather that I was forced to find other ways. As a musician, the biggest way to get into that state is to find your muse, find inspiration in the things around you. It's a type of meditation. For myself, I've realized that listening to different styles of music works really well for me, depending on what it is I'm trying to do. For example, I write non-fiction very easily when listening to Tool. Supernatural Thrillers flow out of me when I'm listening to Year of No Light, Russian Circles, and other post-rock bands. When I want to write songs, I choose a playlist of incredible songs in that same genre, and also purposefully throw in some great songs from a genre that's the polar opposite. I play it when I'm working, and also set aside time to dive deep into the songs, listening to the layers, intricacies, lyric weaving, reoccuring themes, tropes, and more importantly, the emotions they evoke, actions they inspire, and impression they leave with me (what I would turn to them for). The biggest source of inspiration for me is when I dig deep into something that affected me emotionally and very personally. I have students who get inspiration from watching the news, and write masterpieces afterwards. I have some who write in a way that makes you feel like you're intercepting a personal letter to someone else. And even others who are simply inspired and truly affected by the beauty they se ein the world around them. I have others that use meditation in various ways. My point is, finding your muse can be much more powerful than chemically inducing creativity. I'm not completely discounting that point, but I would approach it with extreme caution.
  13. Meatloaf - Two Out of Three Ain't Bad

    You were hearing the right things! I'm merely addressing the root of it.
  14. Meatloaf - Two Out of Three Ain't Bad

    What MDEW is hearing as compression, I'm hearing as singing in the throat too much. Similar results, until you try to lighten compression and then the voice suddenly gets super airy/breathy. What he's hearing as out of control vibrato, I'm hearing as not being able to stablize the notes and overcompensating with more vibrato. You need better resonant placement and proper breath support, so that the voice will resonate better in the soft palate and have the support underneath to better stabilize, cause better cord closure, and add to the resonance. To get an understanding and feel for what I mean by better breath support, try to make a loud "hooah" sound while pushing only from your diaphragm. That lock down of your upper abs is what you want to feel when you sing. When singing softly, it's a subtle feeling. As you get louder, it can greatly intensify. This is also the beginnings of a technique called appoggio, which means "to lean" the voice. Think of it as a leaning forward into your diaphragm. For better resonant placement and getting your voice out of your throat, place a finger on your bottom lip (maybe just under) and try to sing up and over your finger. If you're focused only on the breath support and the pressure caused by that support going up and over your finger, you'll have a much better feel for what I'm trying to say. Here's a much more in depth explanation:
  15. Please Review My Song & Pitch Correction vs Vocoder Effects

    Do you have something with less autotuning on your voice? It's hard to hear your technique for the pitch correction. There are other ways to achieve a similar effect, but many years as a recording engineer, it's rare to hear a voice without very little variation that doesn't have pitch correction or a massive amount of other effects to achieve the same sound. Sadly, it makes it almost impossible to analyze your voice as a coach.