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  1. Hi guys! New to the forum but I'm really happy to be here. I've been getting pretty discouraged lately about my endeavor to be a good singer and was looking for some honest discussion on the thoughts that keep flooding me when I practice. Mind the context that I have a decent amount of musical experience as a multi-instrumentalist of 5 years and as a songwriter/digital composer. Mainly I feel like after the first few months of practicing a minimum of 6 hours a week, doing my vocal exercises each day and practicing some repertoire, also meeting once a week with my voice teacher/coach who gives me tips on how to continue to practice good technique, that this has given me some control over my voice, I don't feel powerless to hit the notes now and stuff. The issue lies in this, the tone of my voice still sounds thin and unpleasant almost always, even in full voice in the comfortable part of my range, it just sounds harsh and ugly sounding. Not even a stylistic choice I wouldn't think, it is just "meh". I asked my voice coach and she said that its a long process to balance out the voice and that its much like working out, you have to practice consistently for a long long time for it to really change drastically and achieve the look/feel you want. My question to you guys is this: Is this an attainable goal to not just be a "meh" singer but to be a good or even great singer? Is my consistent practice and vocal health practices all I need to be doing or is there something I am missing? Is it actually just a matter of time and I am just being impatient?
  2. Hello all, I used to use a crappy USB Art M-one condenser mic but after doing much research have upgraded to a Scarlett 2i2 combined with an MXL V67G. Problem I recorded myself and to be honest, while the recording is clean and clear (at least compared to my crappy USB condenser mic), it sounds so different from when I sing in person. This recording lacks power, and it just has this really dampened feeling, and sounds so boring compared to myself singing in person (friends who I show this to agree also). I'm wondering if this can be fixed just through software like EQ-ing and compressing, reverb etc, or do I need a better mic? If I do, I would preferably like to spend below $100. Recording Info The recording I have below is just noise reduction and normalize, no compression, reverb, equalizer nothing. I have tried some basic compression & reverb on another recording and while it improves the output (have not uploaded this MP3 yet), still doesn't sound the same as in person. Am I just a newb at EQ-ing? Or is this a microphone limitation? Recording below EDIT: If this is the wrong forum, mods please move to correct one
  3. After my last cover being an older R&B style, I thought I would go for a heavier rock this time. At the suggestion of friends, I chose Devy Metal. I'm very comfortable with the style normally, but I'm definitely not used to using so much grit. I usually only use grit as an occasional effect. Also, singing the F4 and G4 with a solid grit can be extremely difficult. Up to E4, no problem. A4 and above, no problem. F and G, ugh. The moment you do it wrong once, it's extremely easy to start pushing and grinding. With my students and friends, that range in grit has it's own name, "F'n G." You can get used to it with practice, but it takes time - and I didn't practice this song for very long. I tried to do a second take of the whole song, and immediately hit my throat when doing grit. Everything went downhill from there. So, what you see in this video is another single take with two camera angles. I did overdub two small parts, but only because I said a couple of words wrong since, apparently, I didn't fully know the lyrics yet. The other guy in the video, Charlie Munro, I found at random when trying to find an instrumental for the song. The only instrumental I found, he had done all the music for and uploaded to SoundCloud. I asked him if I could use it, and the next thing I know, we're doing a video together. Cool guy, great studio engineer and guitarist. All in all, it was a lot of fun, and a cool challenge to take on. I'm working with Robert on a couple of online courses specifically for grit and screaming, so I figured, "why not go all out?" I'm happy to answer any questions you might have about grit and screaming.
  4. Yo TMVW People, Pals, and fellow lovers of sangin'! If you watch this video (starting after 5:05) past the alien stuff, the author explains some impressive voice technology advances made by Google. It's interesting, ... and I thought it was funny that the first thing I think of is how now ( soon ), any person who can mimic the singing mannerisms (a good impression of their articulation) of a famous singer, and has decent rhythm (those are "some" of the most basic skills), could turn on the effect and now, out of the speakers comes the Artist of their choice (on a drop down menu no doubt ) Dio, Mercury, Jackson, Elvis, take your pick! Actually having vocal cords that sound like the artist no longer required to book a tribute band gig! feels like a step beyond pitch correction to be sure. Just fun with toys to me however, I know there are purists who might find this a disgusting perpetuation of a digital cancer on musicianship. anyway, just a crazy funny thought I had after watching the video.
  5. Jaime Vendera. This guy is a pro singer and a vocal coach and this is the guy who keeps appearing on TV breaking a glass with his voice. And he writes books as well and one of his books is called "Raise Your Voice", and apparently it tells you how to do it. What a shame he is to busy making too much money from the TV to bother answering emails inquiring about his lessons for $150/ hr.
  6. Deleteduser

    Echo on the performance

    hi there i bought a microphone for singing practices, and i just realized adding some echo makes my voice blend to the music that i am practicing ,i was curious,is it normal to add echo while singing practices ? or not? in shows like the voice do they add echo while singers performing as a competition ?
  7. So I've been singing for several years now and I've a pretty okay grip on how to use different techniques when I need to. I'm a male to give this some context and I wouldn't say I have a high voice. If anything, my voice is low, not deep but low. I know this because whenever I sing with others, I can always hear a huge difference between our voices. A few weeks ago, we recorder a song in school with over 16 voices in a room, I was on the furthest end from the recorder but yet my voice was still stood out because it was lower that everyone else's. Again, my voice isn't deep and on a good practise day, I can hit high notes for example the chorus of I Have Nothing and if I push hard enough, I can sing Let It Go up till the final belt. Yet, I find myself in an impossible position to sing songs from mostly male singers. It's not that the notes are too low, but because it's too high ( ? ) What I mean by this is take an Ed Sheeran song for example, I might start off pretty okay but immediately when the chorus hits, I can't seem to find the right key and when I do, I have to nearly screech to hit the notes. Another example is Say You Won't Let Go by James Arthur, I sing the verses perfectly well, but when it enters the prechorus, I can feel my veins in my neck squeezing so hard just to hit the note. This might be a bad comparison because it is a pretty hard song to sing. Or even Luke Bryan or Andy Grammer, both these singers are one of my favourite male singers but it pains me because I can't even sing 1 of their songs. When I listen to their songs, they don't even particularly start singing high notes but for some weird reason I can't find the right key to it. I always end up singing lower than the original and strain my voice real hard to the point where it doesn't even sound good. I don't really know if there's some key that I'm not hearing or something but it baffles me that I can choose to sing Ariana Grande but can't sing Blake Shelton because it's too high. I would really love some insight into this problem as it makes me really hard to harmonize with in groups and I would really like to be able to sing with other guys instead. Another thing to add is that I don't have a bright voice, I might be able to sing Let It Go or Defying Gravity on key but those would never be my performing choices as I only use them as comparisons and range practise. My most comfortable and natural tone sits on a more depressing ( ? ) tone. What I mean by that is that I don't sound cheery or about to bust out singing Broadway. Perhaps this might be a reason to why I can't seem to sing some of the " male " songs because I can't mimic the same tone that some of them tend to have.
  8. thematrixiam

    Getting back into it.

    Hi all. I bought The four pillars program way back in 2014... Since then I really haven't practiced it, largely because I haven't had time. I still have yet to use the online lessons I purchased with Robert when I bought it. (been holding out until I had more time and some basic practice in). I did do a stint of singing lessons with a one on one trainer at Long and Mcquade here in Alberta. I learnt some things. But largely, I learnt that I too can just play the lessons she was playing from her phone and sing downloaded songs from itunes. It is much cheaper to just do it on my own. I think part of the problem was that she seemed to largely be "phoning it in" (not really trying hard at her job). I already owned the singing course she was using, and she didn't really offer me much than be an extra ear. It was beneficial to have the steady schedule though. I am trying to get back into it (singing). I have an older (I am assuming) edition of 4pillars. Just curious where people recommend starting off? Also, I am open to suggestions for songs/singers for me to practice with. I prefer songs that - hmm, how to put this - actually involve singing. Being a male, a male singer would be better. But I do tend to sing along to female vocals, largely because they tend to hold notes more and make it sound more like singing, and less like talking with tone. My personal preference is Marianas Trench. For example Desperate Measures I enjoy singing similar to Josh Ramsey, Justin Timberlake, Jacob Hoggard, etc. Any recommendations? As a side note... I find that Josh tends to sing right at my bridge. I have to constantly flip into falsetto, while he clearly sings in his (head?) voice without kicking into falsetto much. Those rough but high notes. Any recommendations to raise my "rough but high note range" without kicking into falsetto? Any views on adding timbre to vocals? I find that in the process of trying to match timbre I end up creating my own and it sounds quite different...
  9. Hello TMVW Friends! Yesterday I shared a Youtube video slide show with Robert Lunte, which I had created to accompany a Song I wrote for my Dad's memorial service. He passed away, early last December. Normally, I would not have posted it here, only because I'm a tad self-conscious about being perceived as "fishing for compliments." Rob urged me to share it so I am doing so. I am proud of the song, and I'm just like anyone else, I do love compliments yet, because this is not a "review my singing post" that I am paying for, I want you all to know that I'm not opposed to "discussions" regarding my singing on this tune. I will give some back story on my Dad, some "behind the scenes" notes on the recording, then list some post recording observations about my vocals which I have had recently, those should ring true to discussions that are commonly had here at TMVW. My Dad: A pump engineer who's family business focused mainly on groundwater applications. After having the opportunity to help an orphanage in Mexico establish a much needed water well, he realized this was something he could do all over the world. He founded the organization linked here , back in the mid 70's which grew over the years to it's present impressive status. He and my Mom raised my two Brother's and my adopted Sister, and I, in a fundamental Christian tradition. While I have moved to a more "Mystical" type of Theology in my adult life, I revere, and am grateful for that upbringing. I did my best to honor this in the song. My Dad played Double Bass, and left a legacy of music for my siblings and I, my kids, and all my siblings kids as well. The recording: Recorded at Mindseye Productions Arizona. My long time friend Bill Pearson is the owner. He is a master engineer, producer, & composer with a Grammy! I'm really lucky to know him. He's the reason I got some great studio vocal experience back in the late 80's and early 90's. After I wrote the song, I didn't have much time to rehearse the guitar plus, I have fairly bad carpal tunnel in both wrists so, my rehearsal endurance on guitar is limited to about 20 or 30 minutes per day. Due to this I ended up playing each (repeated) guitar section of the song only once or twice, then Bill copied and pasted. He made some beautiful embellishments on the keys, and added a nice sampled Double Bass & percussion tracks, which he composed and performed. This made it feel like my Dad was playing along with me, really moving for me! Also, I only had a rough idea of the melody, I wanted to sing it live and let any inspiration flow that came along. This made extra work for Bill because it took quite a number of takes to get the melody just how I liked it. Bill suggested the "speaking line," which I was hesitant about at first but ended up loving it! (That's what good producers do). My Vocals: A re-occurring experience for me, when it comes to studio vocals is; I will usually "o.k." a final take, then regret it later, wishing I had punched a "better," or "different" take. This happened on this recording. There were a few lines where my vowel modification was less than ideal. Also, one line in particular where I didn't use the best appaggio. Maybe you can spot those. Lyrics are in the Youtube description if you're interested. I strongly suggest using headphones or really good speakers!! Thanks for listening! k
  10. When I slide, or glissando up to a note, I can hit higher notes, with more on them, than I can just hitting the note alone. What I assumed I had discovered by doing this was 'mixed voice', but I don't know. As someone with a fairly normal male voice range, if I'm starting on g4 and sliding up to g5, heavy metal singer-style, am I still in chest voice, or is that impossible? Or was I right and that's some kind of mixed voice thing?
  11. Hello guys! I am just curious about this singer's voice and volume when he sings. I notice it is very airy and I know singing with excessive air is bad for your chords, but is there something about his technique or voice that allowed him to sing so long with a healthy voice? (10+ years) I also get very confused on how loud to sing when singing such songs. I guess it is a common problem in a sense when I sing very softly, I can reach those notes easily with my head voice with very little chord closure. OR I end up singing so loud where its basically belting with full chord closure. I can't for the life of me hit that middle area where there is JUST enough power while maintaining such a sweet tone without POWERING IT OUT. ( I am referring to the chorus) Any ideas? Thank you!
  12. Does professional and the vibrant and pleasant vocal tones develop over a long time? I am not currently satisfied with my range and tone especially and I want to be able to develop more and more. How is he able to manipulate his tone so well comparing the first two videos and third video? It's almost as if he's two different singers.. Personal questions: I have been singing for a while now but only recently throughout 2016 I have "Properly practiced" getting rid of my bad habits, fixing tone, pitch, etc. 1. Is it normal that after I started to do so, my range increased VERY FAST. In a span of 4-6 months, I am able now to reach the notes he is singing that otherwise BEFORE I would just choke and sound like I am shouting. Just curious because I am worried I might be destroying my voice by pushing it too hard. There are times before I damaged my voice by improper technique which I guess somehow made my voice range increase as a short cut? is that even possible? I tend to just go all out when I sing right after doing my workouts. Example song I practice is the first video I post below.. ( I am currently using Ken Tamplin's workouts, if that is helpful in any way). ONE IMPORTANT thing to note is that as I go up in pitch and shed my weight, It feels like the TONE of my voice gets higher as well. It's like I sound chesty in the lower ranges then suddenly like little kid in the higher ranges. I also tend to MIMIC singers for a long time... sadly.. is it normal that I am mimicing their style in every different singer? I feel like it doesn't sound "right" if I don't sing with their TONE. 2. As I go higher in pitch, is it normal to feel like something in my mask/palate area to NARROW DOWN? It feels like my mask area is flexing and my chords are very tightly closing. IT ISN'T PAINFUL. Or is this improper technique? Am I suppose to feel COMPLETELY OPEN? When I try to keep it completely open it feels like my voice goes SPLAT and airy and it hurts. Sometimes I feel like I am overwhelmed wondering if I am singing right or am I singing improperly even following his lessons and achieving growth. Anyways heres, the singer. How is his technique? It'll be awesome if there are some veterans or experienced singers to guide a newbie like myself to achieve this versatility in terms of programs and what I need to do. How does everyone here see Ken Tamplin's program?... Thank you!!
  13. Ren

    Vocal Rest Questions

    Would it be better for my voice to rest today? or to exercise today? I fell asleep on the bus, going home from school, and somebody woke me up. What do you do if you're tired? Do you practice, or do you take a day off?
  14. Hi I've been trying to find something on a technique I'm using to produce a form of vibrato/tremelo. The term "bleating" in discussions of vocal technique doesn't seem to cover it, as this term is used to describe a form of vibrato that is said to "sound like" the bleating of a goat. What I am doing is exactly what you would do if you were imitating the sound of a goat bleating. (I suggest you try this now to see what I mean!) It gives a kind of machine-gun stutter of alternation between full vibration of the cords and relaxation. As described, it doesn't seem like a likely candidate for a nice sounding vibrato! However, with practice I'm finding that it can be smoothed out, and it sounds very similar to the fast vibrato of certian singers (e.g. Stevie Nicks). Just wondering if anyone has come across or tried this particualr technique? Is it a safe technique in terms of vocal health? (It feels good to me, but I know this is no guarantee of safety.)
  15. Hi guys, as I got some free time yesterday I decided to record this power ballad by Def Leppard. I would appreciate it if you could tell me what you think and also tips to improve it. Keep on Rocking.
  16. Hi guys, yesterday I had some free time, so I just recorded this one for practice. Please let me know what you all think and also give me some pointers to improve it. Cheers
  17. I was pondering these metaphors and thought I'd see if I could expand it some. Let me know how you see it! Easel is the pedagogy/coach Canvas is the formants Paint is the phonation Colors are the acoustic qualities & vocal modes Brushes are the intrinsic muscular configurations & appoggio Frame is the musical context/setting (band, choir, acapella, singer w/ instrument, musical, etc.) Lyrics are the finished image Lighting (as in a gallery) is amplification & vocal effects
  18. I just got Invisalign braces. So now I have a bit of lisp when I talk, and thus, also when I sing. It's mostly only with "s" type sounds - otherwise I sound pretty normal. But when I say/sing anything with an "s" I sound like I have quite a speech impediment. They're Invisalign, which means I can take them out when I eat and brush and such. I figure when I'm playing live gigs I'll take them out since it wouldn't be for that long. But when I'm just practicing singing, or recording, I can't just leave them out for several hours. And I'd still like to be able to talk normally. Does anyone have any tips on getting rid of this lisp, or at least making it less noticeable? I'm a bit self-conscious of it, and I can't record my new songs until I get it under control.
  19. Partydude

    How to lose double tone

    Hi i have been trying to sing for a few year now but it still sounds bad because i got a lot tone under my face. Like if i sing something it will have some kind of double sound that is annoying. Does anyone know how to sing without this second lower tone. I really need some tips on how to fix it.
  20. Recording plugins are some of the most essential and fun additions for any home recording. The quality and variety of recording plugins available today is simply miraculous. With the right choice of plugins, and a little bit of skill at home recording, an experienced home recording engineer can produce recordings that sound very professional! Plugins are not just for vocal effects. They are also available to simulate vintage preamps, compressors and even recording consoles like the famed SSL console system. In the world of plugins for digital audio work stations, (DAWs), there is no company that does a better job then waves. Visit and learn more about how you can make your home recordings sound professional! TOP RECOMMENDED WAVES PLUGINS FOR RECORDING VOCALS! CLICK HERE TO VISIT WAVES RECOMMENDED VOCAL PLUGINS AT WAVES: CLA VOCALS * JJP VOCALS * EDDIE KRAMER VOCAL CHANNEL MASARATI VX1 * BUTCH VIG VOCALS * VOCAL RIDER * HR REVERB HR ECHO REAL ADT APHEX VINTAGE AURAL EXCITER WAVES TUNE WAVES TUNE LT DOUBLER * DEBREATH DeEsser VITAMIN * RENAISSANCE VOX THE KING'S MICROPHONES AND A LOT MORE...! * Honorable Mentions... essential! Other Vocal Gear Required for a Complete Home Recording Include The Following Recommendations: A digital Audio Workstation - DAWs: LogicProX, Reaper, ProTools. A digital audio interface: We recommend the Scarlett digital audio interfaces from focusrite. A recording, condenser microphone: RODE Microphones: NT1, K2 Pearlman Microphones See The Vocal Gear Store for more suggestions. Headphones: Extreme Isolation x-29s. See The Vocal Gear Store for more suggestions. A Reflextion Fliter: SE Electronics Reflexion Filter Pro Ambience. A Pop Filter: See The Vocal Gear Store for more suggestions.
  21. I notice that this is something that a lot of people seem to be interested in, so I decided it might be cool to have a discussion. As some people know, and I have found out, over the last year, just calling something a "raspy effect" isn't that descriptive. There are different kinds of effects that are generated in different ways. In this topic, let's talk about, and post videos of, the execution of these techniques.