2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Hi there My teacher wants me to practice singing 5 notes up and down in a siren. he wants me to do F3 to C3 and back down again. any ideas on what I could use as a backing track for me to pitch to. Something that will run on my windows laptop Thanks CIADB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarom Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 If you don't have an instrument where you live you could just use an online piano and do it that way. Also, if you didn't know already c3 is the c below middle c http://www.apronus.com/music/flashp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 6/11/2017 at 0:13 AM, Jarom said: If you don't have an instrument where you live you could just use an online piano and do it that way. Also, if you didn't know already c3 is the c below middle c http://www.apronus.com/music/flashp Thanks But the problem with the online piano is I can not press the mouse on the keys fast enough like you would on your own home piano Not sure what middle C is; C3 or C4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsoul82 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: Thanks But the problem with the online piano is I can not press the mouse on the keys fast enough like you would on your own home piano Not sure what middle C is; C3 or C4 He just told you, lol. And I told you already when you asked last week, lol. C4 is middle C. No worries though, I'll make you a quick track. Is it F3 to C3 or F2 to C3? Or C3 to F3? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Adolph Namlik Posted June 13, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 13, 2017 Cats, Have you considered purchasing a relatively inexpensive keyboard ? You can pick one up for $100 or LESS. Here's but one example : http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/casio-ctk-2400-61-key-portable-keyboard You can also check out Guitar Center, zZounds, Sweetwater, etc., and compare prices. It would help you immensely. http://www.guitarcenter.comhttp://www.zzounds.comhttps://www.sweetwater.comhttp://www.musiciansfriend..comhttp://www.musiciansbuy.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 11 hours ago, Gsoul82 said: He just told you, lol. And I told you already when you asked last week, lol. C4 is middle C. No worries though, I'll make you a quick track. Is it F3 to C3 or F2 to C3? Or C3 to F3? ooups! I'm not to sure now you mention it. think I will give my teacher a phone call tomorrow Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Adolph Namlik said: Cats, Have you considered purchasing a relatively inexpensive keyboard ? You can pick one up for $100 or LESS. Here's but one example : http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/casio-ctk-2400-61-key-portable-keyboard You can also check out Guitar Center, zZounds, Sweetwater, etc., and compare prices. It would help you immensely. http://www.guitarcenter.comhttp://www.zzounds.comhttps://www.sweetwater.comhttp://www.musiciansfriend..comhttp://www.musiciansbuy.com I suppose for the purpose of training it may be worth the investment into a keyboard Wonder if you can get more basic and cheaper keyboards then that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: I suppose for the purpose of training it may be worth the investment into a keyboard Wonder if you can get more basic and cheaper keyboards then that though? sure even what may be considered a toy will work for your purposes. Any general purpose super store should have something you could use. We have stores like "Walmart", "Target", Electronic stores like "Best Buy" "HH Greg". You could also order one from Amazon or "Ebay". Brand names like "Casio" and "Yamaha" would be best if you feel like learning piano while you are training the voice. Even the cheaper models are good to learn on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingtone Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 21 hours ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: Thanks But the problem with the online piano is I can not press the mouse on the keys fast enough like you would on your own home piano Not sure what middle C is; C3 or C4 Use your computer keyboard. Letters Q,W,E,R,T,Y... do the same as clicking with the mouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Adolph Namlik Posted June 14, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 14, 2017 17 hours ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: Wonder if you can get more basic and cheaper keyboards then that though? Absolutely. You can find keyboards at the links I mentioned above for as little as $49.00. Here's but one example : http://www.guitarcenter.com/Casio/Keyboards-MIDI.gc If you search the other companies, you'll be able to find the identical products at the same prices or perhaps even at lower prices. I've also seen some Casio's at Walmart for around $39.00. Note what MDEW mentioned as well. Hope this helps...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 thanks everyone, some great advice about keyboards. unfortunately Walmart over hear don't do that kind of thing but I will have a look at that kids keyboard thing first Never crossed my mind about using qwert.... with that online pianos and yes it works and dose the jobs Thanks again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 On 13/06/2017 at 1:22 PM, Gsoul82 said: No worries though, I'll make you a quick track. Is it F3 to C3 or F2 to C3? Or C3 to F3? Not been able to get hold of my teacher today but it must be F3 to C4 then, as I can bearly reach F2 but there again I don't really understand the layout of the piano that well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 14/06/2017 at 10:21 AM, kickingtone said: Use your computer keyboard. Letters Q,W,E,R,T,Y... do the same as clicking with the mouse. Kickington; I remember that name on another forum I gave up with that forum my self though I was wasting my time on it, stopped using it how are you doing anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsoul82 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If you are serious about this, get yourself a keyboard. It will go a long way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingtone Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 6/17/2017 at 7:42 AM, 2 cats in a dust bin said: Kickington; I remember that name on another forum I gave up with that forum my self though I was wasting my time on it, stopped using it how are you doing anyway Yeah, I'm doing fine on the other forum :-) I rarely post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 14/06/2017 at 3:38 AM, MDEW said: sure even what may be considered a toy will work for your purposes. Any general purpose super store should have something you could use. We have stores like "Walmart", "Target", Electronic stores like "Best Buy" "HH Greg". You could also order one from Amazon or "Ebay". Brand names like "Casio" and "Yamaha" would be best if you feel like learning piano while you are training the voice. Even the cheaper models are good to learn on. So just got chance to have another look; and what do you think of this one? It states its for kids and is cheap but do you think the keys are to small for my big hands and would you expect it to last long? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-61-Key-Digital-Electronic-Keyboard-Microphone-Electric-LED-Piano-Organ-/332266025257?epid=1293117634&hash=item4d5c993129:g:pacAAOSwPK1ZXMgw thanks 2CIADB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 That should work for your purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 For pitching to a note and learning to play the piano as well; do you think the keys will be big enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: For pitching to a note and learning to play the piano as well; do you think the keys will be big enough? If you are worried that the keys are not big enough add "Standard Keys" to your search. That means the keys are relatively the same size as a real piano. You should still be able to find one in your price range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 I just had an other search now and it would appear that all the budget keyboards listed on that auction site are all listed as 61 key (including blacks) and would not be enough in my opinion to learn to pitch/ sing to them or indeed learn to play the piano and then learn songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: I just had an other search now and it would appear that all the budget keyboards listed on that auction site are all listed as 61 key (including blacks) and would not be enough in my opinion to learn to pitch/ sing to them or indeed learn to play the piano and then learn songs There are only 88 keys on a standard keyboard. The human voice does not go that high or that low. 61 keys are plenty. Just like the voice the Middle is what is important the rest is just icing and usually not used.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 When they sell it as listed for 61 key they are also including the blacks as well! Have a look at this 61 keyer http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/61-Keys-Digital-Music-Electronic-Keyboard-Electric-Piano-Toy-Gift-for-Beginners/331929256241?_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20151005190540%26meid%3Da32267a204174055999adeeb9b1a5dc5%26pid%3D100505%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26 Count the white keys only then it is only 36 keys, which is only 5 octaves (7x5 =1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven Grey Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I use 25-keys in lessons. Smaller keyboards have a button to switch octaves up or down. I use 49-keys to write music on. For my gigs of the last 25 years, I've use 61-keys. 61 is more than enough for 90% of popular music. 88-keys is a full-size keyboard, based upon piano. But even playing piano for te last 36 years, it's rare to go outside that 61-key range except for certain classical pieces. They make 77-keys as well, for those who want to be able to play 95% of piano music without the extra baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 cats in a dust bin Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Draven Grey said: I use 25-keys in lessons. Smaller keyboards have a button to switch octaves up or down. I use 49-keys to write music on. For my gigs of the last 25 years, I've use 61-keys. 61 is more than enough for 90% of popular music. 88-keys is a full-size keyboard, based upon piano. But even playing piano for te last 36 years, it's rare to go outside that 61-key range except for certain classical pieces. They make 77-keys as well, for those who want to be able to play 95% of piano music without the extra baggage. But I must ask (if you do not mind) where dose middle C (or C4) sit in a 5 octave set piano? (as where is the middle of 5?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven Grey Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 10 hours ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said: But I must ask (if you do not mind) where dose middle C (or C4) sit in a 5 octave set piano? (as where is the middle of 5?) The top note was usually C6, so C4 was two octave from the top, but I could change it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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