All of me - Practice

[ronws]

MDEW may have the hillbilly corner, I have the redneck corner.

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[ronws]

Well, even Steve Perry lurks the forum looking for tips, so why shouldn't you be here?

Yeah, I've wondered who that guy really is.

[Adolph Namlik]

Yeah, I've wondered who that guy really is.

Same here !

[Gsoul82]

Thanks Ronws, I'm just wondering if anyone else will even listen to it.

After all I am a Hillbilly who looks like he escaped from the cast of Duck Dynasty.

I have no buisiness trying an RnB love song. I think I did it justice this time.

One thing I love is when somebody takes a song and makes it their own. Yeah, it's originally sung as an R&B song, but does it have to be that when you do it? I don't think so. I want to hear an MDEW version, not John Legend, if you catch my drift ;)

[MDEW]

    Thanks GSoul, I liked your version. You have a better voice for this than I do.

   I wasn't going to post this yet because the guitars are too tinny sounding. My neck pickup comes and goes and this time it went.

  So I was just playing around trying to get the feel for it. The mixing sucks more than I wanted also. The Voice? Well that's why I am here.

 Any tips are helpful and taken seriously.

   I used Felipe's piano track and added a few Guitars.

 

    

[Gsoul82]

    Thanks GSoul, I liked your version. You have a better voice for this than I do.

   I wasn't going to post this yet because the guitars are too tinny sounding. My neck pickup comes and goes and this time it went.

  So I was just playing around trying to get the feel for it. The mixing sucks more than I wanted also. The Voice? Well that's why I am here.

 Any tips are helpful and taken seriously.

   I used Felipe's piano track and added a few Guitars.

 

    

 

Thanks. The only thing about it is I'm not out of my element if I do that song, because I normally do some of the stuff he would do, as a deep-voiced R&B enthusiast.

 

I listened to the one you just did. Not bad. I like what you did at the 3:20 mark. Little changes in the phrasing like that is the kind of stuff I like to hear. Keep thinking like that. My coach would have me sing a song classically and then have me sing something my way. He'd always ask me, "Now, what could you do here differently?" Now, you wouldn't necessarily sing every line in the song differently, unless your goal is to completely rewrite it, lol, but what can you add to it to make it your own? Maybe change up the phrasing here or there, use falsetto in a place John Legend didn't, an inflection here or there: "Oh oh!" or "Yeah! Yeah!" where there's a gap in the lyrics? These are just some things to keep in mind.

 

Question, were you trying to sing over the instrumental? I find it's easier to get thrown off if you do that. Is there a way for you to turn the volume down on that so that you can focus on monitoring your voice throughout the track, and then turn it back up after the vocals are recorded?

[MDEW]

     I sang the vocals after adding the Rhythm guitar and before adding the lead. Although I had to fix some of the vocals afterwards anyway.

     I am using earbuds but they are loose enough to hear my voice from the outside also. Not too much different that just using one side of headphones.

    My first try I played a clean rhythm guitar and that was too slow and countrified. Second recording was trying to get close to Johns feel. It was a little better.

    I am still flat in places and I tried too hard to add distortion or rasp in the first verse but I think I like my tone in the second verse.

    My falsetto sucks.

    Thanks for listening.

[ronws]

I liked that idea of the rock arrangement and wished I had done that. Way cool.

[Real]

As the other's have said, I feel like each version you've posted has gotten closer to "All of mdew," with the Rock version being completely in your pocket.  You sound comfortable on that one, and the end result is cool.

[MDEW]

As the other's have said, I feel like each version you've posted has gotten closer to "All of mdew," with the Rock version being completely in your pocket.  You sound comfortable on that one, and the end result is cool.

   It's funny how much nerve racking, time consuming work goes into a Comfortable sound.

[MDEW]

Damn, I'm good!

 

OK, so next step:

 

make it more rock - southern rock. Sing ya instead of you, get rid of the Legendisms. Do not lag behind the beat. Stay on it or even try getting a little ahead of it. And get rid of the falsetto. Belt it.

 

I'll take 10% of the grammy proceeds, thanks

    Believe me if I could belt I would have. I have noticed that when those southern rock guys sing above G4 they get this cool growl and they are up there.

I never figured out how they do it. Even those on this forum with awesome voices go for the falsetto/headvoice belt not the fat growl. Any one know how it is done?

[Gsoul82]

    Believe me if I could belt I would have. I have noticed that when those southern rock guys sing above G4 they get this cool growl and they are up there.

I never figured out how they do it. Even those on this forum with awesome voices go for the falsetto/headvoice belt not the fat growl. Any one know how it is done?

 

Any examples of that? I may know what you're talking about.

[ronws]

Damn, I'm good!

 

OK, so next step:

 

make it more rock - southern rock. Sing ya instead of you, get rid of the Legendisms. Do not lag behind the beat. Stay on it or even try getting a little ahead of it. And get rid of the falsetto. Belt it.

 

I'll take 10% of the grammy proceeds, thanks

I like that idea, even better. Something ala Molly Hatchet or Black Oak Arkansas.

 

Go, Jim Dandy ...

[Gsoul82]

Don't be fooled. Gsoul does use rasp.

[MDEW]

   Ron hit it on the Head...... Blackfoot....Train,Train......Molly Hatchet "flirtin with disaster".......Marshall Tucker ."Can't you see"  Pretty Much any southern Rock group does that Growly thing when going to the "Head Voice" area of G4 - C5.   Even John Mellencamp  uses it......

   It is different from the distortion of Metal.   A lot of the old Blues men use it too.

   Stevie Wonder gets that growl every now and then......Mountain, "Mississippi Queen"   Love that song. More Cow bell please.

[ronws]

"Train" is my wife's favorite song from Blackfoot.

[Gsoul82]

   Ron hit it on the Head...... Blackfoot....Train,Train......Molly Hatchet....."Can't you see"  Pretty Much any southern Rock group does that Growly thing when going to the "Head Voice" area of G4 - C5.   Even John Mellencamp  uses it......

   It is different from the distortion of Metal.   A lot of the old Blues men use it too.

 

I'm sure you're talking about what's being done around 53 seconds in here.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OT8fJzJtxo

 

 

I'll try to figure it out. Mine doesn't quite sound like that, but I don't think it's far off.

[MDEW]

  This is a better example. Pretty much the whole song.

 

 

 

   

[Gsoul82]

This is a better example. Pretty much the whole song.

 

 

 

   

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Ah, I see. I'll try to imitate that and upload a sample. If you want to learn how to do what I'm doing, then I'll explain it.

[MDEW]

Ah, I see. I'll try to imitate that and upload a sample. If you want to learn how to do what I'm doing, then I'll explain it.

I would like that. Thanks.

[ronws]

[nellyp]

Apart from a few pitchy notes you already know of, I like the country feel of the song. It's very mellow and layback. I quite like acoustic so I definitely didn't close the link and listened to the whole song

Very different approach and easy to listen to. 

[Gsoul82]

And I thought the falsetto was a nice touch. Sometimes you need something light to get the panties wet