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Hey guys,

Figured I'd start with my own thread like Anthony to show what I've been up to regarding training.

Here are some sound samples from today: simple onsets and a couple of songs. One is Bleeding Heart and the other is Carry On, both by Angra. I recorded everything with my phone and nothing was a formal sit-down practice... I was just doing this throughout the day and in the car (limited practice time).

In the Carry On sample, I definitely need more fold closure... not enough edging / front placed vowels. There is a lot of falsetto there. The Bleeding Heart sample is mostly chest voice, very relaxed and light, with a couple of belts here and there.

Any input / feedback would be welcome!

Rock on! :bang:

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Hi Jabroni, I'm really not qualified to make any kind of constructive comment on your vocals but I can wish you good luck on your singing journey!

What are your long term singing goals?

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Hi Jabroni, I'm really not qualified to make any kind of constructive comment on your vocals but I can wish you good luck on your singing journey!

What are your long term singing goals?

Honestly, to be able to sound full and connected in the light mass configuration. When doing onsets it sounds OK, when singing it falls through. In the belty configuration, I can get a full, voluminous sound, kind of a quasi-operatic tone. But it doesn't provide me with as much flexibility as then light configuration.

I'd like to get good enough to eventually perform in a band or even in karaoke.

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Hey guys,

Figured I'd start with my own thread like Anthony to show what I've been up to regarding training.

Here are some sound samples from today: simple onsets and a couple of songs. One is Bleeding Heart and the other is Carry On, both by Angra. I recorded everything with my phone and nothing was a formal sit-down practice... I was just doing this throughout the day and in the car (limited practice time).

In the Carry On sample, I definitely need more fold closure... not enough edging / front placed vowels. There is a lot of falsetto there. The Bleeding Heart sample is mostly chest voice, very relaxed and light, with a couple of belts here and there.

Any input / feedback would be welcome!

Rock on! :bang:

1. track.. is this suppose to be a M&R onsets?  Not bad... work on that isolated quack compression Jabroni.

2. Good "Acoustic Mode Onsets"!... Im impressed to see that you are working these... stay with it! Leverage the tongue, work on isolated quack compression and don't forget to work your belt onsets! You need the adductor strength in here bud... 

3. Yeahs & yahs - remove the vibrato from your onsets here.. they are getting in your way and weakening your musculature ... for the moment, steady the voice , no vibrato... focus on compression and voice dampening.

4. Bleeding Heart... pretty.. nice sounding voice.

5. Jabroni, you need to work on your belting onsets... are you?  You need more adductor strength... start training D&R and A&R onsets... 

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Jabroni, I listened to a great deal of your SoundCloud samples and you remind me of myself when I started singing, I never went for the "Pussy" singers lol. Just kidding I was always, always reaching to sing like Tate, Dickinson, Kiske, Midnight etc even when I had poor connection and strength I always wanted to emulate those styles. Listening to you sing these songs you really gotta get the fold closure happening and lower the back of the tongue, of course I can see you are working with fantastic exercises to get this happening. I don't have any bad critiques you are passionate and putting the time in it takes as the many samples would suggest to me. I guess if anything I would just say to stay positive and DO the work, you have the heart and the right method to sing these kinds of songs. I noticed you had a clip of Queensryche Take hold of the Flame or as I like to call it THE HOLY GRAIL!!!! that song has such allure for singers haha. I will post a version of that song up as soon as I can locate my old disc with it on. That song has got to be one of the single hardest songs to do justice to that I can think of and I am sure I spent YEARS working on my voice to get even close to getting in the neighborhood. Everything Robert teaches will be needed for that mofo :headbang:strong closure, support, dampening, belting and ENDURANCE that's a rough 5 min haha

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1. track.. is this suppose to be a M&R onsets?  Not bad... work on that isolated quack compression Jabroni.

2. Good "Acoustic Mode Onsets"!... Im impressed to see that you are working these... stay with it! Leverage the tongue, work on isolated quack compression and don't forget to work your belt onsets! You need the adductor strength in here bud... 

3. Yeahs & yahs - remove the vibrato from your onsets here.. they are getting in your way and weakening your musculature ... for the moment, steady the voice , no vibrato... focus on compression and voice dampening.

4. Bleeding Heart... pretty.. nice sounding voice.

5. Jabroni, you need to work on your belting onsets... are you?  You need more adductor strength... start training D&R and A&R onsets... 

Rob, thanks for taking the time to respond and listen to the sound clips. Earlier in my training, I was practicing D & R onsets and doing the "Elmer Fudd freestyle." Here are a couple on onsets I did last night with belting, definitely more mass and adduction here.

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Jabroni, I listened to a great deal of your SoundCloud samples and you remind me of myself when I started singing, I never went for the "Pussy" singers lol. Just kidding I was always, always reaching to sing like Tate, Dickinson, Kiske, Midnight etc even when I had poor connection and strength I always wanted to emulate those styles. Listening to you sing these songs you really gotta get the fold closure happening and lower the back of the tongue, of course I can see you are working with fantastic exercises to get this happening. I don't have any bad critiques you are passionate and putting the time in it takes as the many samples would suggest to me. I guess if anything I would just say to stay positive and DO the work, you have the heart and the right method to sing these kinds of songs. I noticed you had a clip of Queensryche Take hold of the Flame or as I like to call it THE HOLY GRAIL!!!! that song has such allure for singers haha. I will post a version of that song up as soon as I can locate my old disc with it on. That song has got to be one of the single hardest songs to do justice to that I can think of and I am sure I spent YEARS working on my voice to get even close to getting in the neighborhood. Everything Robert teaches will be needed for that mofo :headbang:strong closure, support, dampening, belting and ENDURANCE that's a rough 5 min haha

Absolutely, I aspire to sing this song properly one day. Geoff Tate is what got me into singing. Unreal voice.

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.... if it wasn't for the early Geoff Tate stuff... seriously might not be doing what Im doing today... I "get it" Jabroni... I "get it"... 

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