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Hello,

I'm a baritone. I'm only 15, so that could change, who knows, but I've been looking into extending my range downwards and have had good results. My normal range is from F2-C5, although once warmed up I can get a D2 that's very unstable, but not fry. I learned about "Subharmonics", and decided to try them out. After about a week I've developed the technique to take me down to a G1, ugly it may be. The reason I'm posting here is because during this week, I've developed a strange... "partial" on my voice. (I'm a brass player, so this is the only way I know to say how it feels.) This partial starts at C2, and ends at about D1-E1, and I don't think its fry. It's not as pretty as say a full chest voice, however, its very connected and not separated like fry tends to be. Its hard to control, but it's there. Is this some type of fry I've randomly developed? Is it maybe subharmonics that I've somehow figured out? Any input? Very curious.

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A frequency is a pulse at a certain speed. Having said that, It is possible to vary the speed of the pulse in fry voice. I am able (At times) to regulate an A2 fry pulse where the A1 becomes the dominant tone.

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No, that's not what this sounds like; although subharmonics sounds quite similar when done poorly.

This low "partial", actually resonates and has overtones. I'm beginning to think it may be fry. However, I've actually used this in choir and gotten complimented on it, and apparently it sounds almost as good as my chest voice. The only microphone I have is the one on my headset, and it caps at about 110 hz, so I can't upload a clip.

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Yeah, that's definitely not this haha. I'm thinking it's either a well sustained fry, or maybe I've managed to get some more chest range that I just haven't discovered before. I've been able to follow most of Home Free's bass line (they're a country acapella group with an amazing bass-baritone, Tim Foust. Range of B0-A5.) I can reliably follow it down to an E1.

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I would like to hear what this sounds like. I believe it is possble to extend the low range. Just like training the high range there are things you can do or resonances to access to reach lower notes or make them more solid.

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On 08/05/2016 at 11:40 PM, Chris Harrison said:

The only microphone I have is the one on my headset, and it caps at about 110 hz, so I can't upload a clip.

The sample I've sent was recorded with a cheap cellphone, anything will do really. If you send the sample its easier to understand what you mean.

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I had a D1 in vocal fry when I first began. What you're explaining isn't clear, but there are only two solutions. If you can start a vocal fry before C2, and extend into a deeper fry down to D1, it's still vocal fry even if it's lower pitched. The only other option is a tuvan/Mongolian kargyraa technique, which has this 'chant-like' sound to it. The kargyraa has a tubey "mo" sound, and the vocal fry is just a continual extension of fry with a more "mi" sound.

While it's possible to go that low in kargyraa, it's difficult and it would be surprising if you naturally had it. Go look up examples of kargyraa on YouTube and see if that's what you mean. Like I said, it's either just a deep fry or kargyraa.

If you look at the difference in feeling, fry is just a poppy and relaxed sound on a "mi". In kargyraa, there is slight tension in the throat and the tip of the tongue is depressed into the bottom mouth, making an oh shape in the pharynx.

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  • 5 years later...

Hmmm... Knowing you mentioned Geoff Castelucci, that gave me an indicator which vocal area your speaking of!

It's a weird mix of Subharmonics + Vocal Fry + Upper Overtones Helping Amplify said Lower Subharmonics

Due to this this allows for versatility sound wise!

Here is my REALLY flawed go at it in a mp3 voice clip! I haven't slept for 24 hours so I can't really do anything clean right now ESPECIALLY lower ranges, soooo I will send this mp3 and a YouTube Video of a Accointance of mine doing it actually smoothly, and cleanly, for the lower pitches since frankly I can't hit said pitches RN.

YouTube Video Link of ma Accointance doing it low pitch:

 

 

VID_20210701_050051149_3.mp3

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Here is my 2 additional side by side comparison posts, showing how spot on to Geoff Castelucci's low subharmonic voice method this is!

Geoff Castelucci's Heathens Low Note Section: 

^ Skip to 1:31 in this video to get an idea which section I'm doing

Here is my kinda sloppy comparison proof of concept: 

VID_20210701_053750719.mp3

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Yeeee Though... I think this is what you mean by a Subharmonic sounding like Geoff Castelucci's, if I'm wrong though just lemme know!

I have been Beatboxing for 10+ years, and as a professional in said beatboxing sport online for around 7 - 8 years. And, I have been a vocal performer for also 10+ years, and have been in many Acapella groups for beatboxing or low voice needs for at least 6 years by now.

Sooo, If I am wrong. I still can always Trial and Error rundown like the 20+ different other potential vocal options for something that sounds like a Subharmonic if you really feel you need to know which one you got. :39::cool: :P

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