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To the point:

There are some *smart* voice teachers displaying before and after of their students as a sign of improvement and that are deliberately faking results and exploiting recording conditions to create the illusion that their singing method produces *huge* voices.

In this particular case I saw, the teacher compares a dry and very clean/honest recording of a students voice on a controlled volume level (meaning that it was properly gain staged for the best possible audio fidelity) and low to no reverb, which would be the before, with a badly distorted/digitally clipped sample of the same student singing where you can't even hear what the guy is doing anymore, which then would be the result of the training.

Guys, when you hear a distorted AND louder audio, of course it will sound *huge* compared to a clean version of the same, but this is not a consequence of the singer technique being better, it's just poorly captured and louder. In the sample I received an audio engineer was able to restore a bit of the audio and you could hear the student having issues with the phrase and cracking on it, something that was completely hidden by the distortion.

The fact that the distortion itself happens is being used as a sign of competence too, something like *it's so loud the recording equipment can't handle it*. This is non-sense. Certainly if you do not set the gear properly when you go loud, it clips, I did this mistake myself on a few of my videos, but it's all it is, a mistake when recording.

Except that on this specific case the effect is being deliberately exploited so I would not call it a mistake either.

Loud/Clipped recordings does not mean huge voices. Pay attention to what you are being shown!!

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Thanks for posting this. Agreed. Another tactic is to find professional singers from exotic countries and then pay them to come in and make claims that everything they learned was solely because of the teacher. It is disingenuous.

The proof of the singing is in the singing, but the proof in the teaching is in the teaching. Don’t confuse the two. 

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interesting idea about all this modern age fooling going around from the 2 dimesanal fictanal hollow graphic character that is only visable on a 2D flat LED screen as rays of red and green and if you are lucky yellow as well for a VGA computer screen, welcome back to the world of creating an illusion to fool everyone ells that you are a great real time live singer and not a home recording studio (hello you know whos silly little Thomas) the great felipes home recording studio (y2 where at it an all remember)

 

But the jimmyshitforbrains forum was the master at all this fooling (along with there natural singer tradisanal silly little man)

 

So where is these recording the great filipe? of homework bodge sad little sucker pack it all in before you make a fool out of your self in front of your 2D hollow graphic fictanal charicters that only exist on facebook. where are the recordings great felipe, or dose the emporter still wear nothing at all?

 

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11 hours ago, Dravan Grey said:

the great felipes home recording studio (y2 where at it an all remember)

Ah I like your attempt man, but I prefer that the designation is used in the proper form. It's Felipe, the great.

:P

I am sorry I don't understand what you want. You wanna hear what I am talking about here is that it? I will try to get the author of the video here to share it!

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1 hour ago, Felipe Carvalho said:

Ah I like your attempt man, but I prefer that the designation is used in the proper form. It's Felipe, the great.

:P

I am sorry I don't understand what you want. You wanna hear what I am talking about here is that it? I will try to get the author of the video here to share it!

you mean you been faking music production videos tooooo!!!

Further more apparently on the jimmyshitforbrains I do not have the natural charismatic crismas in my voice that can only be found from EQ and reveb out of a mixer that is why I suck and should pack it all in before I make a fool out of myself (silly little man). And they cant even get that right! the very basic of home recording

 

No what I actually wanted was a free skype lesson from your self just to prove I am a real person and not just some random I mean master troll (2 dimensanal fictinal hollow graphic character existing only as red green yellow light on a computer screen)

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59 minutes ago, Raging Gay said:

No what I actually wanted was a free skype lesson from your self just to prove I am a real person and not just some random I mean master troll (2 dimensanal fictinal hollow graphic character existing only as red green yellow light on a computer screen)

    You get more flies with honey than vinegar. I have gotten offers from others for the free skype or other forms of instruction and so have you. I may not have taken the offers but they were provided.

    If you want to be seen as a 3 dimensional person in a 2 dimensional world stop showing your 1 dimensional attitude towards those who have the capacity to help.

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1 hour ago, Robert Lunte said:

 it is great for our SEO.

That's what Hewart Parker said on the sound on sound forum

In cases like this, the sad individual may think he's playing a game at our expense, but he's really not. Dozens of other forum lurkers will have already benefitted from the shared advice. So the only loser is actually the joker himself, no one else.

https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=65981&start=40

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