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I sang this one today morning. Without a morning worm up and on the weak mic.

I know its specific song but im afraid of incorrect singing :/

What do you think?

Sth is wrong and i dont know what. Maybe not enough powerful?

Jonpall sing it to me please :)

Update:

Last version on the cheap mic. I decreased hold and tried not to loose twang. Hard thing to do guys :)

http://www.box.net/shared/22bcyss5xq

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You've got a pretty voice, man. It would be interesting to hear you sing with with slightly less hold. I don't know why, I just had this feeling that you might possibly be overdoing the hold/crying sound. Guys who do it very well often don't sound plaintative at all.

Also, if there ever was a song who requires rasp, it's this song, so if you sing it without rasp, many people will miss the rasp from the original recording. One of the trademarks of this song is the almost superhumanly well done rasp by Dan McCafferty.

Now you've tempted me in attempting that song. Man! That's gonna be tough. I probably can't do it, not well enough for my taste that is, but then again, it's when I "probably can't" when I probably will try. That's just my personality.

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Yeah. Use the hold. But add just enough of the hold until the sound becomes resonant and beutiful. Any more hold and the sound could get too squeezed and/or whiney. I'm not totally sure that's what going on with your voice, but it will be cool to hear it from you. This actually happened to me not long ago. I realized I could get just as full, and more relaxed sound, by losening my hold a bit (and lowering my larynx ever so slightly).

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I love this song!! I was thinking about doing it for the auditions, but the original is sung in the key of G which is a difficult key for me to sing in. So we (my husband and I) are raising it a half step to the key of Ab. I think it's so cool that many of the songs that you guys are doing (Faithfully, Sweet Child, etc.) are songs that I like to so as well. Do you think it's weird for a female to sing these songs? Just wondering...

Lydia

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Lydia,

not at all. In fact, most of the top 40 bands in my area have the female lead singing the high hard rock tunes(mainly Don't Stop Believing and Sweet Child.) Hell, I've grown so accustomed to chicks belting out Sweet Child, it sounds weird hearing Axl sing it now. What's cool is that really strong females can sing these songs with different "set-ups" than the original male singer. It seriously rocks when you hear it live.

Rock on!

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I love this song!! I was thinking about doing it for the auditions, but the original is sung in the key of G which is a difficult key for me to sing in. So we (my husband and I) are raising it a half step to the key of Ab. I think it's so cool that many of the songs that you guys are doing (Faithfully, Sweet Child, etc.) are songs that I like to so as well. Do you think it's weird for a female to sing these songs? Just wondering...

Lydia

Absolutely not weird at all.

In fact, if you ever watched American Idol, the judges have always responded very positively to contestants who take on a song that was made popular by someone of the opposing gender.

There were two good examples last season, actually. Siobhan Magnus' cover of "Wicked Game" and Andrew Garcia's acoustic cover of Paula Abdul's "Straight Up".

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So, you have to admit that sth isnt correct and this clip doesn't sound enjoyable right?

devaitis, I very much disagree with that. For one, it WAS enjoyable and secondly, I'd like you to tell me what your definition of "correct" is.

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Absolutely not weird at all.

In fact, if you ever watched American Idol, the judges have always responded very positively to contestants who take on a song that was made popular by someone of the opposing gender.

There were two good examples last season, actually. Siobhan Magnus' cover of "Wicked Game" and Andrew Garcia's acoustic cover of Paula Abdul's "Straight Up".

yes, that so true.....i do "at last" and "don't play that game for me" lower keys, and belt them my own way.

it develops versatility...you go for it!!

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I'd like you to tell me what your definition of "correct" is.

I think correct means in a way that follows the accepted standards or rules. Sing with: pitches spot on, give enjoyable sound

Thank for help. Everything is clear now :)

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I've done "Saving all my love for you" by Whitney, an octave lower, with only one accoustic guitar in the background, like a jazz version of it. It sounded pretty cool and got good reviews. The funny bit was singing "no other man's gonna do" :)

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Well, I didn't get to hear devaitis' version. It's already been removed in, I think, less than 24 hours.

Exactly what is wrong with having a light clear voice? It might hard to find a bigger GnR fan than myself but I like Sheryl Crow's version of SCOM and Fergies, too.

Yeah, I know it was recorded on a hand-held but that just shows how phenomenal a clean performance can be.

There is no "correct" way. Maybe it's just me and I don't give a flying *&%# if a singer sounds like the original singer. Did the singer performing the song do it with conviction and confidence? Then the job is done.

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Did you reduce the hold? I just listened to it and you could reduce it. Actually, it would be cool to hear you increase the twang a bit. Check your sound at 00:14 on the high note for the word "in" (I think). That's what I'm talking about. That part had relaxed "hold/cry" and a bit more twang. I'm not sure if that would improve your tone, but I THINK it would and it would be cool to hear you try it - IF you aren't satisfied with your current sound. Note that Adam Lambert usually twangs like crazy and has a pretty relaxed throat with a very slight cry.

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Did you reduce the hold?

Yeah, just a little bit.

I'm not sure if that would improve your tone

Lets check it out...

I will record it once again with more twang and with better mic. Tomorrow or on Saturady.

Thanks for listening.

Note that Adam Lambert usually twangs like crazy and has a pretty relaxed throat with a very slight cry

Whats the main difference between cry and twang?

Twang is sth like the sound of a duck (a common bird that lives on or near water and has short legs).

And cry = hold?

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Cry is the same as hold, yeah. You sing or speak like you're in pain and you also hold back the volume slightly, keeping it from going to maximum volume (it should have medium volume).

A duck (liked your detailed description of what this animal looks like) is twanging but with a light sound colour. Its larynx is high. The lower you have your larynx while twanging, the darker the sound colour gets until it reaches the "opera sound" (although singing opera is much more than that). But imitating a duck is a good way to locate where twang is created in your throat (back and up). Then you should work on darkening your sound colour from that initial sound. How much is a matter of preference. Sebastian Bach had a very light sound colour, f.ex., especially in the tenor range and above.

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