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I practised with my school-music-group yesterday, for our exam on monday.

Somehow I did something wrong, I woke up today with a very sore throat, it feels like I've REALLY worked out in my larynx. And my tongue hurts and bleeds a little when I move/stretch it too much :(

I HAVE to perform at Monday in the morning. What can I do now? I can talk with only minor discomfort, but singing is not nice for the throat.

I'm drinking tea with honey and looots of water. Anything else I can do?

Emil

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Wow, bleeding? Need to get that checked out.

I'd say rest your voice, talk quietly and refrain from laughing hard, coughing hard and obviously shouting.

Never really found honey to help at all with my voice. Some say it has mystical healing powers, I just call it farce.

Drink plenty of water as well, take some meds and get enough sleep.

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unless you are doing screaming vocals, it sounds like you were doing something very very incorrectly. The larynx shouldn't be working out at all in either neutral or classic style.

As far as I have experienced, tea only drys out your throat faster. drink water, maybe milk although that's somewhat acidic as well. Try to sleep early to get as much rest as you can.

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I think the problem is caused by the "Tongue stretch" part from Vendera: http://www.jaimevendera.com/lesson104.html

I do all these often, but not tongue stretches, because it's not comfortable. I had forgotten that.

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Oh shit, D.Starr. I didn't know that it was that which he did.

I was at my exam today, and I defiantly sang a lot worse than what I know I can do. But I got an A+ in the practical music part anyway. Now I really need to take a break from saying/singing too much.

Edit: I hope I can get a time at the doctor tomorrow. I have a little discomfort in my neck when I breath :o

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Yeah I remember him saying he did the pulling off thr tongue exercises and heard something pop and then experienced a lot of pain.

I never do anything to tongue pulling wise. Simply sticking my tongue out and stretching it, softly chewimg it and singing vowels with my tongue stuck out to resist the urge for it to shoot into the back of the throat.

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Hm. I found out that my breath capacity is almost half of what it should be. That sucks.

Sometimes I can't sing, because I can't get enough support, air and twang. Other days it's easy.

I guess this is why. The doctor said it might be asthma. Yay, asthma and reflux!

He couldn't say anything about my tongue. He could only see that my lymph in the neck is swollen and that my breath capacity sucks.

Ah well, I'll get more information when I go to another doctor that I was referred to.

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I'm getting the feeling that you just aren't using proper technique. avoid meats or strong foods for your reflux.

You want your support to pretty much be involuntary. If you are trying to 'get' anything, your probably gonna mess up your technique, or flare your asthma. When I use proper technique, it takes me 5-10 minutes to warm up to my g#4/a4. If I'm not using correct technique it could take me as long as and hour or longer to get up there.

From your lowest chest note as root, I would recommend you don't exceed an octave and like 5-7 semi notes, until you get more comfortable with your support.

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1. Stretch out

2. Breathing exercises - around 45-60 seconds of hissing on a "Z"

3. Humming with an NG sound in a comfortable range

4. Liprolling in a comfortable range

5. Sirens on primarily "EH" in a comfortable range

6. Sing with a lot of twang in a comfortable range

And thats about it

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Wow, bleeding? Need to get that checked out.

I'd say rest your voice, talk quietly and refrain from laughing hard, coughing hard and obviously shouting.

Never really found honey to help at all with my voice. Some say it has mystical healing powers, I just call it farce.

Drink plenty of water as well, take some meds and get enough sleep.

Double WOW! I agree with D. Starr. I would add, total voice rest and a trip to your ENT specialist! Anytime blood is involved, I would take this as a very serious warning sign.

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Yes, I hopefully can get to see a specialist next week. But I can first call at Monday to get an appointment! :(

It's bad enough to have total vocal rest, but to make it worse; I can't. I have to practice for a theater exam at Monday. And I have to yell and generally speak loud. I really, really don't want to do it. I do not want to hurt my voice even more right now. But I don't know what to do. Five other people depends on that I have my role in the production.

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Update: I've been doing breath exercises and lip rolls, but my voice doesnt seem to be progressing in any good direction :s

I was at the ENT doctor and he said there was nothing broken, but my throat was a little red, as in I shouldn't sing for a few weeks, and if it was still there in AUGUST, I should come back. That's a long time!

I've never heard a breathy falsetto, just now when I tried to sing a few easy notes in falsetto I hear this silent breath leaking out. It's concerning :( I don't know what to do at the moment. I had so many plans this summer with my voice, and now I can't sing.

Meehhhh... I feel like I'm losing all what I've worked hard to learn.

You guys got any suggestion to what to do in a situation like this?

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My season with my coach is over and the doctor just said that I should stay away from singing for a few weeks.

I've been planning to getting coached by Eli Prinsen, but I have to make sure that he knows what he's doing before so.

He's got a vocal program out and is really kind.

I'll ask him on Facebook now, and hope to get an answer soon :)

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rofleren, absolutely follow the doctor orientation.

Man, bleeding is quite serious, I cant imagine what you were doing to get to this point... Consider very well how it get to this, how does this fits on the orientation you are receiving?

It should never get to bleeding. Its a clear and direct indication that something is not working as it should. Either the orientation you are receiving is plain wrong, or you are simply ignoring it.

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And, quit yanking on your vocal organs. People that advocate physical manipulation of the tongue or jabbing fingers here and there should be avoided.

Anything that requires you to pull on the tongue or jab a finger somewhere is just wrong. Singing should be natural, not blunt force trauma. In fact, if singing is getting harder rather than easier, then, whatever it is, is wrong. Period, paragraph, new book.

Whatever you did to bleed or lose your voice, stop it. Right now. Not just the vocal rest, which you really need. but whatever demon-possessed system led you to do this.

That's my tough love for the day.

You only have one voice. Please, for the love of all that is right and beautiful in the world, treat it like a precious gift.

Okay, stepping off my soapbox.

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That which made my tongue bleed was

http://www.jaimevendera.com/lesson104.html

More exact, the "TONGUE STRETCH" part.

I've followed this little guide as a stretch-warm up many times, but I've always skipped the tongue part, since it felt uncomfortable the first time I tried it (1½ years ago or something), but, well, one day I forgot that I shouldn't do that exercise.

I found it odd, when I was at the ENT doctor, that he just grabbed my tongue and pulled it more out than what I did in this exercise. It was uncomfortable for the time he did it, mainly because it was out of the blue he did it, but there was no pain afterwards. I don' think my tongue is a problem anymore.

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