Robert Lunte

I don't think that is true. Most lessons are one hour. In my opinion, half hour lessons are just not productive. It isn't enough time to get warmed up, strengthened and have enough time to get some meantingfull progress on a song. I only do one hour lessons and when possible, actually recommend 2 hour sessions. The fact is, voice lessons that are 2 hours are the most productive.
My program offers; video demonstrations to train along with, very clear instructions on what modules to begin and complete first in the lessons and the training page is divided into 4 phases which give a sense of sequence and progress in your training.
I also offer training workflow guides found at the MY Training page, below is what one of them looks like. These are used to show students what to read, what to study and what to train... AGAIN, more direction on what to do and when.
Anyone that completes TFPOS gets a certificate.
So, your not talking about my program...
Seriously? This has to be explained?
To suggest that personal instruction for singing is not needed to sing well, is to demonstrate naivety and pretty much little clue about training voice. Respectfully, just saying...
Completely ridiculous. 
I perused the rest of your post, it doesn't really make a point other then, "people can learn to sing great for free" and "to give it away for free makes you "nice"...
 

Its just delusional or more likely, just completely out of touch of what serious singers are doing and what they value.
They would never make posts like that. 
Fortunately, there are some serious students and singers out there, Draven & and I work with them. Nobody I train on a regular basis or who has purchased my program and actually did the work would leave a post like that.

Yes. If you have nothing vested in it, you don't appreciate it and you don't do the work. PERIOD.

Ok. thanks for the clarity. It sort of sounded like you were making a case for "you don't have to, because you can get it for free" which is just a lame point to make on so many levels. Glad that isn't what your saying.
Back to my original point then Rich... More and more people are lazy and don't want to work.  I believe that YouTube has done a lot to create a new virtual culture and expectation with people. Its free on YouTube and you can sort of get some tips, so when people are really ready to get better and stop watching videos for tips,... they seek programs and teachers and become put off when someone informs them that it isn't going to be free.
 
And "is too expensive" just doesn't hold up as an argument.... I have tried numerous times to offer services for $4.99. As a matter of fact, for the last 8 months anyone that signed up here was routed to a page out at my web site where they could get the entire TVS warm up package for $4.99... a deal so good, it is almost offense. NOT one person took my offer. $4.99... ?!  

I don't think that is true. Most lessons are one hour. In my opinion, half hour lessons are just not productive. It isn't enough time to get warmed up, strengthened and have enough time to get some meantingfull progress on a song. I only do one hour lessons and when possible, actually recommend 2 hour sessions. The fact is, voice lessons that are 2 hours are the most productive.
My program offers; video demonstrations to train along with, very clear instructions on what modules to begin and complete first in the lessons and the training page is divided into 4 phases which give a sense of sequence and progress in your training.
I also offer training workflow guides found at the MY Training page, below is what one of them looks like. These are used to show students what to read, what to study and what to train... AGAIN, more direction on what to do and when.
Anyone that completes TFPOS gets a certificate.
So, your not talking about my program...
Seriously? This has to be explained?
To suggest that personal instruction for singing is not needed to sing well, is to demonstrate naivety and pretty much little clue about training voice. Respectfully, just saying...
Completely ridiculous. 
I perused the rest of your post, it doesn't really make a point other then, "people can learn to sing great for free" and "to give it away for free makes you "nice"...
 

Yes. If you have nothing vested in it, you don't appreciate it and you don't do the work. PERIOD.

Its just delusional or more likely, just completely out of touch of what serious singers are doing and what they value.
They would never make posts like that. 
Fortunately, there are some serious students and singers out there, Draven & and I work with them. Nobody I train on a regular basis or who has purchased my program and actually did the work would leave a post like that.

You'll never be paid to sing, and you don't have a set plan (or choosing not to make one)? To me, that says you're not serious about singing. Learning to sing, perhaps, but not to the point you want to make a career out of it. You're choosing not to do so, for whatever reason that may be.
It's when someone says they're super serious, want to make a living/career out of it, and are willing to do whatever it takes, and then complain when it costs money for a teacher's time (especially a good teacher with proven results within their goal set), that teachers get frustrated like we talked about above.
There are great course out there that cover the material you mention, and don't cost a student thousands per year. Not everyone learns that way. There are great software trainers too, but I'm not yet convinced that one could replace a good teacher. Then there are those students who are passionate about their voice, train consistently, seek out the best courses, and really only need a teacher for a few lessons, to help them tweak a few things.
But to say you're serious about singing and only looking for free tips, there's a disconnect.

.... It's amazing how people claim how important their singing is to them. How its the "most important thing in their lives" or "I have a really important audition" or "I have been struggling for years and just can't get it" and on and on... And when you offer them the very help they seek for a measly $20... the price of a six pack of beer and a slice of pizza this weekend, they go dark.
Quite literally, the value of singing better, winning the audition, achieving your dream, etc... isn't worth $20. That is what it boils down to.
 
 
 

Hello
This is a song i will be singing with my band soon. What do you think?
 
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1lG0BbFRYqY

Coach, I know you can help Simon just as you've helped me and so many, many other singers achieve their goals !!! It's precisely why I suggested he contact you and take you up on your offer.  
"Things" are about the same as they were when we last wrote. To keep it brief, still in a battle with the "bureaucracy". Hoping that things will turn around and SOON. 
BTW, we're beginning our tenth year of TMV World as of this month !!! 

I can help him alright. Hey Chief, hope things are going well.

Thank you. And to think I almost sent him a free hard copy book to be nice as a gift for coming on board... 
Exactly. Go Train. Let's cut to the chase and get on with the most important thing... go out to the "My Training" page and get to work. Start training. Then come back into your "journal" and show us what you've been doing. Let's see and hear your voice and what your doing with the training. Use your journal for that. The Journal is not a customer service portal.... suggesting that I pay a developer to put complaint buttons on every lesson page? Is this a joke?
No doubt, YouTube "free secret tip" people... My program is for these people. https://thevocaliststudio.com/testimonials/.
 
Rich, i'm not sure how to interpret the negative vibe in your posts... so be aware that you are welcome to a refund if you like. Just let me know. If you don't want a refund, I echo Draven's advise. Don't get fixated on the nuances of how you interpret  my disposition in a lecture. Focus on getting results, and that means watch a couple lectures, work through the red modules I recommended and then get to the "My Training" page and put your real vocal progress where your post is.

You know what guys... I work very hard to provide you all a great service, including this forum which is free to you.  How inconsiderate.
This feature is not available on the platform the course is on.
Thats a good idea. I just sent an email to the developers to find out how to do that. Not sure if we can. If we can, I'll enable it.
 
This is the video we are talking about.  This is argumentative? It has over 87 thumbs up and 12 thumbs down, and over 15,000 views. I guess people like it.
 
No its not. TVS is the company. The Four Pillars is the product, book+Course and The Modern Vocalist World is an open forum for all styles, teachers, schools, methods and discussions and has been for over 8 years. TMV World is not the same thing as TVS. They are both owned by the same guy, but that doesn't make it the same thing.

The problem with making a course that is full of useful and thorough information for everyone is that it's more than some people need and still not quite enough for others' needs. That's why having a coach to walk you through it can be so important.
When someone wants the entrie chorus to revolve around only what they want for themsleves, then they don't want a course, they want private coaching. Private coaching takes a lot more personal focused effort, and thus costs lot more. This course is exhaustive, comprehensive, and complete, not created for you specifically. Creating the impression that you are self-centered is a good way to get coaches to not want to work with you. To publicly (and completely unsolicited) proclaim how the course should be changed in your favor is short-sighted, small-minded, and self-centered. You're better than that. See the bigger picture.
That approach is also a good way to get fired by your teacher. It says that you don't want to learn and train, rather that you want to complain, be spoon fed, and babysat. Again, you're better than that.
If you're concerned about getting the training you signed up for, then go to the training part of your course rather than spend your time going through every single thing on the informational side and then complaining that you're wasting your time with something you chose to do and no one forced you to do. If you think you don't need the talk track and thorough information on certain topics, even though others do, then don't watch those videos. Read over the text underneath them to see if you think it will be helpful to dive deeper.
If you simply want to critique instead of ask quesions for clarification, then feel free to sod off. You're not going to get much out of anything with that attitude or self-centered approach. If you want to learn, then ask questions, seek to understand, and know that you are part of a large community of people that are at all different levels of learning and understanding and all willing to help each other.
Now, if Robert asked you for your feedback on such things, because he trusts you as experienced in coaching vocals or putting together training courses, then by all means, give him feedback. I don't think that was the case. What you're asking for is essentially Youtube, which is wide open to self-important freeloaders, trolls, and self-proclaimed experts on topics they know nothing about. Again, asking for clarification and the "why" behind the way things are, especially when wanting to learn from someone much more experieenced than you, will get you a lot further than criticism, especially cristicism based upon the world revolving around you.

There is no difference between the "hum" and "humming". Wouldn't that be the same thing? In any case, in the book and in the video I instruct you to NOT hum. If humming means to have a windy and whoofy sound that is not what we want. This is why we refer to it as "Resonant Tracking" or "Buzzing". And... it can ONLY happen on the nasals; /m/, /n/, /ng/. Your lips should vibrate and tickle. If they are not, your probably humming, in which case its wrong.
Did you watch the introduction and demonstration videos for "Track & Track" and "Track & Release"?  If not, do so.
 

Another reason why we don't "hum"... humming keeps the resonance in the throat or lower vocal tract. NOT GOOD. Buzzing seems to elevate the resonance more to the oral cavity, palate and pharyngeal regions = GOOD.

Seems like I got everything working now. 
There is definitely more organization and flow than the older version that I had. 
I look forward to digging into it.

Thanks all for the help...

It seems this journal of mine has been slightly derailed. It has become more focused on the change from older format to the newer format. As such, I will likely create a new journal to outline my progress.

Thanks,
Rich. ( Matrix) Aka. TheMatrixIAm.

Perfect. 

The links work. 
I also managed to access the ebook. Is there a way to download it for offline reading? 

Thanks,
Rich.

Do you mean Tracking or Track & Release? That would be nasal buzzing on M, N, or NG. Or in the case of what we train with the most, M, which is humming and buzzing the lips. You would still seal the lips. What's different is the up and forward  resonance that makes the lips and sometimes teeth buzz/vibrate/tickle. That's a feeling you want even on higher notes, where the shape of your embouchure becomes important to keep a good lip buzz ( a hotizontal embouchure, even with the lips closed).

Rich,
I logged into your new account just fine.
I discovered a setting on the link I sent you that was missed.
Login now, you should be fine.
Let us know...
coac

I get that every once and a while too. Usually because I'm not logged in. That's also under the "My Account" tab. It can look like you're logged in when you're not. The best waya to know you're not is when you see what you just posted. I hope that's all it is.

Hey thanks for the question!
Anyone that purchases the 4.5 as a new customer or as an update customer such as yourself, will have lifetime access to that web site. And when I say lifetime, I mean for the rest of your life, until death do us part. You own it and you will never again have to hassle with this.
Let me explain a couple things...
Back then, it wasn't a "lifetime" deal. Students always paid for updates because back then the technology was so clunky that it was 10x more work and headaches on my part to do an update. Back then I would have to:
1. Make a new video, with video render software that sucked ass and crashed all the time.
2. Take the videos and send them to my developer who would then,...
3. Put them into this old blue TMI system we invented. That required special coding that I had to pay for.
4. He would deliver it and always it would have a problem with it, so we would go back and forth to fix the bugs, more payments to the developer.
Ugh...
5. Then I would have to upload it to the sharefile system you are referring to which,...
6. Was not reliable because the amount of content in TFPOS, even back then, was so vast that it would break the technology. It struggled to upload and download all that data.
7. OMG... other problems with sharefile... I'm having nightmare flashbacks now... 
Thus, I wanted to be paid for my toil... and I mean, it was TOIL.
 
... Then along came online course work systems...

Now in order to update, all I do is...
1. Make a video on my iphone and I have 10x superior video and audio then I did back then.
2. Render it.
3. Upload it to the new web site.
DONE! Instant updates... 
2 weeks of headaches turns into about an hour of work.
Since the new system does not suck the life out of me, I am happy to offer you lifetime on the new system. You do nothing... when I update a video or add a new lesson, it just appears when you login.
I'm inviting you to update for $80, and you will have everything above for a lifetime... and it works better, and its mobile, and it is about 10X better then that old blue thing you have... If you disagree, you have 14 days to refund. 
Coach

See 12:55 and all the information about the "My Training" page.
 

Hey thanks for the question!
Anyone that purchases the 4.5 as a new customer or as an update customer such as yourself, will have lifetime access to that web site. And when I say lifetime, I mean for the rest of your life, until death do us part. You own it and you will never again have to hassle with this.
Let me explain a couple things...
Back then, it wasn't a "lifetime" deal. Students always paid for updates because back then the technology was so clunky that it was 10x more work and headaches on my part to do an update. Back then I would have to:
1. Make a new video, with video render software that sucked ass and crashed all the time.
2. Take the videos and send them to my developer who would then,...
3. Put them into this old blue TMI system we invented. That required special coding that I had to pay for.
4. He would deliver it and always it would have a problem with it, so we would go back and forth to fix the bugs, more payments to the developer.
Ugh...
5. Then I would have to upload it to the sharefile system you are referring to which,...
6. Was not reliable because the amount of content in TFPOS, even back then, was so vast that it would break the technology. It struggled to upload and download all that data.
7. OMG... other problems with sharefile... I'm having nightmare flashbacks now... 
Thus, I wanted to be paid for my toil... and I mean, it was TOIL.
 
... Then along came online course work systems...

Now in order to update, all I do is...
1. Make a video on my iphone and I have 10x superior video and audio then I did back then.
2. Render it.
3. Upload it to the new web site.
DONE! Instant updates... 
2 weeks of headaches turns into about an hour of work.
Since the new system does not suck the life out of me, I am happy to offer you lifetime on the new system. You do nothing... when I update a video or add a new lesson, it just appears when you login.
I'm inviting you to update for $80, and you will have everything above for a lifetime... and it works better, and its mobile, and it is about 10X better then that old blue thing you have... If you disagree, you have 14 days to refund. 
Coach