jonpall

I still have a bit of a difficult time handling distorted lines that go down in pitch and maintaining the distortion. I sometimes get to thin sounding. That's what Brian Johnson does as well, but I'd prefer not to. I'm going to work on it.

8 hours ago, Robert Lunte said:

It is producing noise in the vocal tract, distortion, inside what would otherwise be a Falsetto position.

Thoughts Jonpall?

Yes, that's probably correct. It can actually help to think falsetto, but then really try to project to your voice and make it as loud as you can while bending at the waist and knees slightly each time you sing a line. And it can also help to think that you just want to go for it and basically scream your lungs out. Here's another tip, ask a band if you can try to sing Back in black and don't expect to nail it until after many, many tries and tell your band mates that you're just experimenting with this. That's what I did. They'll just be happy to play a song like this because it's a fun guitar song  . The lines are so high that it's impossible to land in chest voice and singing this stuff with a band is the only way for you to see all the difficulties of this type of singing style. If you're just practising this at home, you may THINK that you're covering all issues but might found out that some things are missing when you try this with a band.

Now that I've been practising vocals for 7+ years with this type of singing in mind, I feel in some ways that I know less about singing  But such a thing can happen on the road to mastery, if that can truly even ever be obtained.

To answer your question, I believe it's a matter of several things but the most important ones are overtwanging to create the distortion (and actually conciously trying to make the sound ugly, evil and angry - and then perhaps pull back slightly if you want a bit less of the distortion), thinking about being in head voice and not chest voice for such high notes, bending slightly forwards during the sung lines to support your voice (probably the most important element because you will be experimenting with this and occasionally hurt your voice a bit, which is when you must take a break for a few minutes, and this is what protects your vocal folds from being fried to dust with too much airflow when you're doing vocals like these) and finally, try to "project" your voice to the back of the room instead of tensing up in the throat (this makes your voice big and I've found that it sounds much better with a powerful band behind you and the audience connects MUCH more to such a sound).

There are other important things too, but these are the things I found to help me the most. But you guys might already be doing all or some of these things - and maybe lacking in other things, so what you need to to could be slightly different. In that case, look into stuff what you probably already have learned on this forum, like inhaling on a slight smile while keeping your shoulders down, not overly pronounce consonants, merge your vowels into the most resonant ones (Eh and Ah can help in this type of singing), etc...

Good luck and hope this helps.

Thanks Robert.

MDEW - fixed!

Hi guys, long time no see. I thought I'd post a very recent live recording of myself for the fun of it.

This is me joining up on vocals with an Icelandic band called Rökkur (translates roughly to "Dusk") last weekend in a pub called Bar 11. We did many 70s and 80s rock songs that night. This is one you all know - called Thunderstruck by AC/DC !

Let me know what you think

Great job man. Could you describe how you add that rasp to your voice and how loud you're singing? I doubt it's actually as loud as it sounds.

Cool. Thanks guys.

Btw. note that the sound quality is bad, unfortunately. Sorry about that.

Hi guys,

I just thought it would be fun to post a short clip of me singing Eye of the tiger into my mobile phone. It's been a while since I posted a song and I just dug this one up and decided to let it fly here for the fun of it. Been buisy singing lots of different songs in a cover band for the past few years, actually. Here it is:

https://app.box.com/s/7c0xn7i8z3j54zbfibfh

Loved it dude! *Headbangs* Just about perfect rock tenor vocals :)

On the cover of the Rolling Stooooone: http://www.themodernvocalist.com/ . It's cool and an honored to be featured on my favorite web site. It's strange though that if you press the "Home" button, you're not taken to that page?

I agree with Adoney. MDEW, I'm going to suggest that you experiment a bit with using vibrato. I think you might start to get more good comments if you do that, especially if you can practise it enough so that it becomes relaxed and natural. You could also experiment with some falsetto or even head voice, like improvising with that every now and then. Cheers!

Hmmm, I think they changed the web site so that now you have to sign up there in order to listen to clips like these.

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I posted anything in this section. I've been yearning to have a song to test my upper range and I just couldn't think of the right one; then just like that Highway Star comes on the radio (while I'm driving to college in my Chevy Aveo). Eureka! That definately takes the cake. That song is certainly a challenge.

Thank you all for listening and being a terrific world audience! Big shout out to everyone who took the CIT challenge. You guys all rocked it!

Now to set the bar really low here's my take

P.S I would really love to hear all of your takes, fellow TMV members. This song is chock-full of fun.

Many blessings, Eric

Hi dude. Liked your singing. I suggest that you also lighten your sound colour just a little bit. Big props for taking on such a huge song.

JENS I LOVED THAT ONE!!! One of my favorite songs of all time and it totally rocked. If I have any critique it would be to lighten the sound colour just a tad bit in the verses. But you can sing it however the hell you want Cheers. Btw. don't you find it a bit hard to be a singer in a band that has many long guitar solos? Fortunately I'm now in a band where I do the long guitar solos myself . Btw. I thought that your vocals were excellent and that you're one of the strongest members in the band actually.

I hope be able to cover this song with my band soon (and play both solos in the song, on my guitar, lol).

Pro as always Martin. I dug that . Great singing and acting. You really got in character there. And the whole experience must have been fun.

I actually disagree that it was pitchy or, certainly not throughout the song. The pitch was quite good. I also disagree that the scooping up to notes was bad. Chavie only did it a couple of times which just colors the song and doesn't seem to be a bad habit of his. I just really liked it and I don't think you need to change anything, really. Just enjoy singing, keep enjoying it and see where it takes you. Have a nice day :)

Thanks a lot Adolph. I'm glad you liked it. I just tried uploading it with the link you sent and I got a message that it was waiting approval. I'd be honored to get featured on my favorite web site, thanks :)

Hi guys,

Here's a half a year old recording of me singing Styx's "Boat on the river. Enjoy and comment if you want

You sound great. I would advice you to not necessarily spend too much time on vocal technique detail since your voice is already naturally very well developed and such singers can sometimes make things worse for themselves if they try to change their voice too much.

What you need to do is to make much more music than you already are doing! You're doing a little now, but apply for bands to join, don't give up, put more effort and time into songwriting and most of all, have fun with it. Then, if there is anything specific in terms of singing that you always find difficult to do, you can contact this forum or a vocal coach (someone with a good reputation and connects well with you) to help you with that problem. Good luck!

The good: You have the sharp bright voice type to sing Zepplin, good range., and pleasing tone .

The not so good, but fixable: You have some major pitch issues throughout the song. Your vibrato is unstable, and your bridge needs work. Pretty much all normal stuff for someone who is very new to singing, or just started taking lessons. Get a few skype lessons with a good coach and that will get you in the right direction.

Totally agree. You have good potential, actually. Your next step would be to work on singing in the exact same key as the song. Get a vocal coach and if it doesn't help - get a better one because they're definitely not all good.

And as I pointed out before, Jonpall caught me on that. So, really, we should blame him for cleaning up our phrasing. It's all your fault, Jonpall. See what you have started?

Glad to be blamed!

:)

When I was I teenager, I considered this to be the most beautiful song I've ever heard. Good job on the vocals.

I've already told you my opinion on your singing through email, so you know what I think.

Rainbow in the Dark :

https://app.box.com/s/0dllu0utq3tlksf79ynl

https://app.box.com/s/3hg7zyr5zri6nzkwwrwi

Last in Line :

https://app.box.com/s/xieuys03v7b9njsqzg2y

Unworthy, I know, but it is a snapshot of my effort at this point in time.

Cheers,

Thanasis

Edit : Better mixed

Great job Thanos! . Minor pitch issues here and there, mostly in the beginning but a great attitude in the sound.