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Tks, ronws. I also thought for a really long time that a low larynx and twangy sound didn't work together, but they do, and as someone said in another thread, operatic singers are great examples of that. I haven't been able to control both of them yet, but I'll experiment with what you said and see if it works. Soon, I plan on having a voice lesson, so the one-on-one work will get me there even faster =D

As an update, I just wanna let you know that my practice is slowly getting me results and the G3-G4 scale in overdrive (or in some other mode particularly twanged and annoying) is getting more sustainable, step by step. Right now, I think I found an adequate volume for the notes, and I am being able to twang them a lot, but I still haven't found the right amount of twang, because my support is still faulty and I have to use more twang than normal to compensate that. Eventually, I'll even it out and I'll also start thinking about hitting them in tune, as I know how often I'm offpitch. I also need to practise long clean notes, without vibrato. I'm only trying to put vibrato everywhere to disguise any possible shakiness and to see, more or less, how much control I could pretend I had. http://www.box.net/shared/x06fj9f5c8

Well? No! It has the loudness of overdrive, but I feel pretty tense, more in the beginning of the sentence than on the last word ("day"), because of the vowels. It's just that my voice never cracks or anything. I was never (really, never) hoarse or with a scratchy throat after singing, no matter how long and how bad I did it. But really, I wouldn't be able to sing that song until the end. I need to find a way of making it comfortable, but I haven't been able to do it by myself.

You're welcome, ronws. In my mind, low head voice would be too gentle for that part, but I may be imagining a different sound than what you're describing. Could you or someone else demonstrate, please?

Well, that line is too high for me, so even though this was recorded without warming up, you won't find me doing much better than this even after 1 hour of vocalises: http://www.box.net/shared/il8bhtyjfq Also, those sirens are impossible for me to do 0.0

I need help with twanging and supporting in general, because I feel I don't do neither of them as well as I thought. I assumed Overdrive would be a good mode to practise those because it's usually said that it's easier to learn than Curbing, but if this is too high to use overdrive for a beginner, I can find a better way to approach it, I guess. I didn't have any song in mind, at first, but after choosing to work on my overdrive, I set "Valentine's Day", from Linkin Park, as my test song. I'm only really interested in the part after 2:24, lol, where he repeats "On a Valentine's Day" a million times. Theoretically, I know that I should resonate higher, but in practical terms, I have no idea how to do that. I thought resonating more in the head simply meant "use more twang and brighten the tone".

So, now that I've allowed myself to be embarrassingly noisy, I thought I should start seriously working on twang and support, and in order to do that, I decided to focus on improving my overdrive (CVT method), because the energy it requires to go high, plus the twang and all of that, will give me a strong foundation for everything else. I always thought I knew how to twang/support, but when I tested it out, applying what I theoretically know wasn't so simple: http://www.box.net/shared/vd2svlm9u4 Backing off of the twang a bit, or at least, trying to turn it into a more finished sound, wasn't great either. In short yells, it didn't feel so bad...: http://www.box.net/shared/v2q76bqb3x ...But sustaining the sound is pretty different: http://www.box.net/shared/l2f2zq80ud . I wouldn't be able to slide that way up to G4 without "hurting" myself, that's why I stopped right there. Please ignore all the off-pitchness in the clips, I really wasn't worried about that. What do you hear in my recordings that needs serious fixing to make these notes possible? Btw, G4 is not a goal note at this time, I just wanted to show you what happens throughout the whole passaggio, to give you a clearer picture. In my "Gran Torino" topic, you gave me good tips about recording, but for now you will still have to put up with bad quality, unfortunately. I didn't even record these in my computer; I used my mp4 player, since I wasn't at home.

Ok, thank you both for your tips. Your recordings sound professional, guitartrek; I wonder how much time you dedicated to learn how to achieve the best quality possible. I am familiar with Audacity, although I never used it much. If I start recording my voice separated from the instrumental track and then use Audacity to combine both, it'll already be a good step towards improving my recordings, even with bad equipment. I'll have to take some time to learn those things and save money to get some new stuff. I'm not in a rush, though, but I'll definitely do it. Thanks for explaining the USB interface thing, ronws. Now that you told me how it works, I feel stupid because it was pretty obvious, lol.

Wow 0.0 I remember you having super dark hair, which gave you a Professor Snape ("Harry Potter") look. Now it's really blonde, what a change! You sang very well, for someone who'd been drinking. I also liked to see you interact with the crowd. You seemed pretty into what you were doing, and that was probably one of the things that made everyone respond so well to your performance.

It's not exactly the same balance, but yes, sometimes my voice covers the instrumental when I'm singing. In this recording, it only happened in the second chorus. Any other pitch mistakes out of that part are not because of that x) What software do you use, guitartrek? And how do you record your voice?

I couldn't listen to the original here, I'll have to search later. I only heard your version, and I liked it! In the verses, your pronunciation is not entirely clear (or maybe it's my ears' fault), but you're stoned, and stoned people, even if by love, don't pronounce every vowel and consonant as if it were their last. Your vocals in the chorus are awesome in terms of interpretation, but technically, I sense some tension, maybe because of what Jonpall said. I especially liked the ending, with the vibrato and the rasp going on at the same time. Really cool recording. I wish I could give you more technical help, but I'm sure the others will fill in my gaps.

You sound effortless and very pleasant. Not even your pronunciation suffered while you were holding back to have a lighter sound. The arrangement is also pretty cool. I didn't know the song before, so that probably influences my opinion, but even after youtubing the original, I still prefer listening to this.

Well, yes, I guess you're right. I did notice a big difference in the quality of your recordings. Before and after your new material, it sounded like two different singers. What kind of software and equipment would all of you recommend? A good microphone, good headphones, and...? I don't even know what a USB interface is for, haha. Now, combined with vocal technique, I'll have to learn a lot about recording and mixing. That might be fun, actually!

Thank you, guitartrek Well... I just let the instrumental play and sang over it. The microphone captured everything at the same time and then I was done. The only input I had of my voice was from my own ears. I could do better with my recordings, but I still don't feel I am in a level of development that would justify investing in a good recording set, mixing software and such. But if that can actually hinder me, it's different.

Making random noise is great to make you relax, besides letting you apply the techniques you're learning without feeling restrained by a specific vocal melody or scale. You just do what you want, according to what you need. I liked your gibberish! Great voice.