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  1. The Mayfield Four is my favorite Myles Kennedy band. There's something their two CDs that just makes me melt. His best vocal styling (and guitar) imo was in the band before that, Citizen Swing. (sick guitar solo at 2:55)
  2. I totally forgot about this. I need to try this song mapping today. It sucks that I still can't really SING one song. Maybe I'm trying songs that are hard.
  3. I think it's subjective like what Steven said. On the Bel Canto website I posted it says "just below the cheekbones". I myself imagine it just below my eyes.
  4. That's a really cool idea. I'll definitely try this tomorrow. What do you think of speeding it up?
  5. Thanks! I'm a little disappointed that this is curbing. I've probably been doing this for months: EE in chest voice with a little squeeze (hold) and lots of support. F4 is the highest I've taken this sound and it's not even consistent. I can't see how people can take this higher without their passagio getting in the way. EDIT: I reread the curbing chapter in CVT. It says curbing often blends into compressed neutral or edge in the high part of the voice. So how high should I pull chest? How do I increase my curbing range without blending it with edge (The second link on this thread is probably edge)? This is very confusing :/
  6. Okay here's my attempt at curbing. This is probably as high as I can take it. Am I doing it right? http://www.box.net/shared/cnd2ctj2zq (I repeat what Matthew Bellamy sings)
  7. Hey, It does feel really comfortable and very loud. Also, the thinner-fold configuration Steven mentioned seems to allow a smoother transition to another mode (dunno what it's called yet). Apocalypse Please by Muse has lots of fairly high overdrive with these vowels so that should be fun to learn. There is some sort of hold in compressed neutral. Assembling the vocal chords and making a click sound (I can't actually do the click sound). Maybe it's that or edge. I'm still not sure on curbing but I'll try what you said tonight.. THANKS! EDIT: eggplantbren: I tried taking the sound higher and it's working... this feels great. It's so effortless and weird I'm starting to think it's not overdrive. This made my week.
  8. I am excited, I was about to give up on singing in that range. And twanging did help THANKS. I think the second one is edge too because I'm using the edge vowels. I'm not twanging though. Maybe there's a hint of twang but I'm mainly using a hold.
  9. One of my favorite singers, Myles Kennedy, says he uses Bel Canto so I was curious. But yeah the only teacher I could find used "Bel Canto" to market himself. I've learned much more from everybody on here.
  10. Thanks for posting. It does feel like something changed one the way down. The thing is I still keep connecting the commonly used terms, chest and head voice. Overdrive is what most men speak in. I've tried these same notes on these same vowels before but strained and failed a lot. This feels different; much easier and more free. I guess I wasn't in the center of the mode?
  11. Hey, http://www.box.net/shared/nl9ddnvpb2 I've never been able to reach F#4-G4 with such ease. I haven't tried other vowels but OE "herb" seems to always work. This feels connected. I can bring it down without feeling a break. I don't think this is curbing since I'm not applying any hold. Here's another mode that I don't know what it is. I'm doing some sort of hold (I stop doing it at "the pain"). I can't do this around E-F4 so it's not curbing because curbing is supposed to get more limited (vowels) the higher you sing? This is the opposite. Anyway here's me badly repeating a line in Grace after Jeff Buckley. http://www.box.net/shared/m6c36p6acc
  12. Hi again... I messed around with my voice trying to get tone from directing the voice, didn't work. Maybe I'm not explaining it right, but thanks Steven that made perfect sense.
  13. Hey, I was reading about Bel Canto and somethings really intrigued me. In Bel Canto you DON'T direct your voice towards the soft palate. Instead you direct it towards the hard palate and teeth for more resonance. Is that just a different way of picturing things? It all seems pretty close to me and you're of course still using the hard palate when directing your voice towards the soft palate. I'm just wondering if I should direct it more towards the hard palate because that would make more sense. Also another interesting stage in Bel Canto is called "the mask". I think it's basically just using your sinus cavities for resonance. Is that the same as the CVT basic principle of always having some twang in your tone? You can read about it here: http://thebelcantotechnique.now-here-this.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=35
  14. Yeah definitely. My throat burns a little when singing in falsetto. It doesn't hurt but it's an annoying feeling and after it my throat clenches and strains for the rest of the song. I usually drink some water and take a break for 3-4 minutes when that happens. I obviously can't do that if I'm singing live so I need to work on this.
  15. @Carol: There's an exercise called the falsetto slide by Jaime Vendera where you slide from falsetto chest. He said that for that exercise you need to make your falsetto sound tiny and not airy. Then he said that sound makes some people think they're in head voice but they're really still in falsetto. My point is that there are several sounds that are achievable in falsetto. @Goldenvoice: I guess it depends on your practice routine. Watch from 1:28 He has some great tips. And yeah Spectrum I've noticed that. The compressed notes actually don't tire me out quickly. I think for now I'll compress the sound a little and gradually add some air.
  16. That's the thing. I'm wondering if there's a way to train that. He obviously sings much more than I do but I tire out much quicker (when using falsetto). Jaime Vendera said that the way to train endurance is to practice 5-6 days a week and your voice will become stronger. I'm wondering if that's also the case with falsetto. If I should keep tensing up and getting that tiny burning sensation until I get stronger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZjxskTrSz0 The type of falsetto I'm talking about is like what he's singing at 1:00 also at 0:46
  17. @Carol M: CVT's way of categorizing the voice is more accurate IMO. I haven't really spent much time understanding their "modes" but I'm pretty sure falsetto in CVT is called neutral. There are two types of neutral: soft-closure neutral and compressed neutral. I think this is a more accurate way of describing the "falsetto register".
  18. Hmmm.... Well how did Jeff Buckley, Matthew Bellamy, Jón Birigisson, and many others pull it off night after night? Is there a way to tire out slower? I'm only as airy as they sound.
  19. So do I fix that by singing in falsetto regularly?
  20. I was just struggling through a song. Then I left out the falsetto parts and I didn't tense, clench, or anything (It also affects my chest voice). I'm talking about airy falsetto; not the adducted, slightly-pushed one (head voice?). I also get a light burning sensation doing exercises like falsetto slides. Falsetto is a huge part of my singing and I wanna be able to do it effortlessly. Any tips or ideas? Thanks
  21. Ron that explains a lot! I don't know much about fold closure but I can control pressure. I'll also start to add a hint of twang in everything. Thanks =) I tried the Vendera breathing way and reread the breathing section in CVT. CVT actually explains the abdominal inhalation and I agree with the book in that it takes too much energy. After trying the abdominal inhalation yesterday I went back to the diaphragmatic inhalation today and I think I have more control. @jonpall: ?? I'm not Danish either heh..
  22. I dunno. I'm just not 100% positive I'm doing it right. Vendera's book seems to be in more detail. Also, this might sound stupid but the CVT way causes occasional belching, haha. Again I'm not sure if I'm doing it right so I'll try Vendera's way and see if it still happens.
  23. Thank you all I think I'll learn Vendera's method since he has more breathing exercises and details. Also, when you say keeping the ribs expanded you mean which part of the ribs? In the CVT way my lower ribs expand. Is that it?
  24. Hi. I've been using CVT's breathing technique for a couple of months now. When I breathe in my stomach goes in and my solar plexus, waist, and lower ribs expand. Then there's Jaime Vendera's technique (more common like in SLS) where your stomach expands when you breath in. Any insight from someone who used both? I wanna buy Vendera's Ultimate Breathing Workout to really improve my breathing but I'm not sure if I want to change a technique I've been using for months.
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