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Thewall

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  1. Ok. Now I've lost you. I don't know what you are talking about anymore. I've never compared people from non-English nations with others. You dragged that into the discussion for some reason and I've not really argued about that. Therefore, I've never defended that either. I think you are a bit childish to be honest, and I also think you are one of these forum trolls. So this is the last reply you are getting from me in this thread.
  2. If you can't seperate Jack Black from Jorn Lande you need to become better at listening. This really just explains all about you and your overconfidence about singing. Problem Solved.
  3. All great clips. Thanks for posting. Especially Bruce impresses me. What a breath-support.
  4. After reading his posts again, I think this is a troll. Not sure if he is a troll or just overly cocky dude that is living far up his ass.
  5. Yeah, right. Ha....ha. I'm curious to hear why you think Jorn isn't a great singer. He has a voice that fits his genre and his technique is incredible. That's a fact. Whether you like the sound of his voice, doesn't change that. I do like Meine, Perry and Jackson myself, but you can not shove your sound ideals down our throats man. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but the way you are expressing yourself (like a douche), you don't seem to consider other opinions legit, rather than yours. What has Jack Black to do with this? Isn't that the comedian with the mediocre wannabe rock star-voice? He can't do anything near what Jorn does. Yeah, he is more popular...because he is an actor and has a more commercialized product. Popularity and record-sales are really not interesting at all in this matter. You know, there are so many out there who think they are amazing singers. Then they go to an audition and get laughed at. Let us hear how good you are before you start bragging. And all of a sudden you start talking about a guy named Falco. You should just post the clip instead of getting the whole board searching for a rare video that you enjoy listening to. Is it the "rock me amadeus" guy? Well, ok. Guess you are joking. I would very much enjoy if you actually posted a clip that blow us away, where you clearly sing better than Jorn, who is considered by many, one of the best, if not the best, vocalist today... In his genre of course.
  6. Oh my GOD, JORN sounds truly amazing on that 0101011001 clip. My jaw just cracked the floor.
  7. Sounds good man. You can sing. I have two things I wanna comment on. When you hit the high note on the verses, you should go a little bit higher in volume or at least give it some more resonance/power. It sounds a little weak and fragile. I wouldn't do head voice (m2), rather just belt it out with a lot of twang and good support. I'm curious to hear how that would sound. Some places I think your vibrato is too slow. But most places it sounds good. I guess this may be a matter of taste but this is, however, my honest opinion.
  8. Sensations and imitations are for me the best tools when singing. Trying to set your brain to control nearly every muscle in full consciousness will probably just end up giving you a lot of constrictions and tension because you don't have the capacity to have so many thoughts at once. The result is that some thing gets too much attention and some things gets too little or nothing at all. I'm not saying that you have to use all your complicated knowledge about the process of singing when singing, but often, that's what many of us do, including myself. So I've had to simplify my perspective and methods and that made me a better singer. I've met some metal and rock- vocalist and I've had the chance to ask them how they learned to sing. I've also seen interviews where that question is covered. What about 90% said was that nobody taught them how to sing. There weren't many voice teachers who knew how to sing like they wanted to. So they had to figure it out on their own. What they did was imitating their idols. Feeling the sensations while imitating. The closer they got to the the perfect imitation, the better the sensation, which often means healthier. Most of their idols must have had nice, healthy vocal technique because it's very hard becoming a person well known for vocal abilities without it. But why does so many singers fail when they are learning to sing just by hearing and imitating professionals? An 80's rock singer named Tony Harnell (TNT) said something that I believe is true. He said that most of us are not really listening closely enough. We have to really pay attention to all the details in the sound/phonation to be able to master it ourself. Often people just sing a long trying to sing with perfect pitch and some sort of nice tone, but doesn't hit that perfect amount of twang, support and larynx-position which we all can hear if we only pay a little attention and concentrates. If you never experience that sensation, you will never truly know what you are missing. For example, many aspiring singers think they have nice technique, but they don't understand why they get hoarse after 30 minutes of singing. They go to the doctor but nothing seems to be wrong. What's wrong? They probably don't know how pleasant singing should feel and how good it should sound. They may be doing something right but it's obviously not good enough. Maybe there is just a low level of breath support. Just enough to sing 30 minutes with a decent tone quality without getting hoarse. But too much air is coming through (may be hard to hear and twang can be used as camouflage), so the inevitable happens. They get hoarse. If they listened more closely to the professional singers and imitated more strictly they could have felt the sensation while singing. And when you find the sensation, you'll always try to find it when singing later on. After a while it will come automatically. Sensations in singing often happens when we are supporting correctly. Finding the balance. Great tone, range, vibrato, effects... things that easily can be heard when listening and paying attention are very much affected by support. This post became sort of a digression from the original question in this thread, but It's kind of relevant, though.
  9. A teacher should: - Know how to make every sound that are common in popular music genres. I don't trust a teacher who doesn't sing well or make the sounds I want to create with my voice. That's why I choose a teacher educated from CVI (CVT). - Not have an ideal sound. Dampening or raising the larynx, vowel modification, effects, vibrato and so on. Absolutely none what so ever. A teacher should teach you how to sound like YOU want to. A teacher should only criticize a student when he is: A: Not singing in a healthy manner, and B: pronouncing and articulating badly without hearing it. Not small vowel modifications which ofc are fine, but for instance not articulating consonants enough so that it's hard to hear what the words are when there is no reason to sound sloppy. - Have good knowledge of anatomy in singing and using that knowledge to teach students how to sing better, but only if necessary. My impression is that it's better to learn to sing without knowing to much about what is going on. It's easy to be over-thinking when you are are familiar with singing as a very complicated and complex process. I think seeking sensations are the best way to learn how to sing, but if that doesn't cut it, a more scientific approach may be the solution. - Be supportive and try to make you confident as a singer and performer. Being confident and "free" is, in my opinion, absolutely critical in order to sing well. - Stay updated on new techniques and vocal science.
  10. Haven't read all the posts here. But in general I want to say this: The majority of the users I've heard on this forum lacks good support. To be able to do a D5 in full voice (For Bruno Mars curbing in CVT terms) you need a really big amount of support without getting too tight and that's tricky to learn for the most of us. I think many singers underestimates the value of support. The fact that you don't hear a lot of air when you are singing doesn't mean you have good support. For me, to be able to push my full voice over C5 in a healthy manner, good support was the key. Removes all the straining and fatigue and makes it sound better as well.
  11. Yes. You have to use the original vowels otherwise it sounds stupid. I actually laughed a little myself when I was listening. Why? Because you have a really nice voice man, but the way you pronounce the words doesn't give your voice justice at all. Correct pronounciation will make your intonation better as well. For instance: "Isn't she lOvely". Try to sing "u" like in the word lucky.
  12. I won't say you are twanging to much. You may need to twang more to stay in full voice up your range. Twanging in the part of the voice you are singing in sounds a little funny. It's mainly country-singers who does that. But I know you're just showing off your twang here so... When singing lower notes you only need a little bit of twang to make it healthy. Add more twang as you sing higher.
  13. Haha those sirens are very similar to those I practise jonpall. Nice job. I don't use distortion on top tho, but it sounded good. Can you post a clip without distortion so I can relate to my own sirens ? Sirens are ok, but singing songs that high in full voice is really tricky.... Takes time to master.
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