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  1. How do you singers do retrieval practice? It seems to me that this must be done acapella. At a lesson we bassically only sing with accompaniment. I find that I have never been tought how retrieval pratice works for singers. What are your tips? I find that amateur singers who are ok at singing have sung acapella without even thinking about doing it as an exercise. 

  2. Isnt it much easier to sing above your speaking range? I find that when I use support from the diaphragm when singing with power I feel like I am drawn higher. Some teachers, including mine, says that for higher notes it is important to think "down". I like this a lot. I really feel like support forces me up. When I hum a note with support i often end up on F#3 which is really my highest speaking pitch (if just talking normally). I use classical singing rather than pop singing. My power is above the speaking range. I feel like there is a mechanism in singing that forces my up to the higher notes.

  3. Why do so many vocal teachers believe in the hiss exercice instead of breathing exercices using weights on the stomach?

    i actually went to an opera Singer who told me to lie down on the sofa while he put a weight on my stomach. He said this is way better than the hiss exercise. I think he is into something. I actually use a 5 kg weight at home. What do you think?

  4. I am a person who dont easily understand how other People experience stuff so please be very concrete with me. Some talk about passagio (bridge in English?). I see different bridges in my voice. I need help with what the correct terminology would be. I have my speaking voice around D#3/E3. When I go lower to Bb2 I go to my lower voice (bellow speaking voice). There is a bridge between those. If I go higher to G3 I go above the speaking voice. There is a bridge between those. If I go even higher to D4 there is Another bridge. Then at F#4 there is another bridge. The at G#4 there is yet another bridge. What is the correct vocal terminology for this?

  5. I talked with a director of a Gregorian schola who said that  they would even sing as low as A2 (must be great for the baritones but not for me). I want to sing with them since this is music I like a lot.
    According to one vocal teacher, with whom I agree, the best key for Silent night, when I sing, is C. That high F4 works ok but I shouldn't sing low notes.
    Did/do the great tenors have any problems with A2? Gregorian chant seems kind of too low for me if A2 is a must. I would even choose higher keys then what is found in hymnals. I disslike singing low notes.
    When a teacher tells you that your voice has a tenor quality what does it mean? And is tenor voices rare since most men sing too low at sing-alongs? 
    I had one audition with the schola director and she made me sing the low A2 but it was uncomfortable. I dont see any good reasons why we should sing below C3. 
    What are your practical advice(s)?

  6. Well, if got it right certain kinda singing is more natural. I can't imagine Hank Williams having learned his yodel feeling from  formal teacher. But he did have a mentor. But he might have sung solfege in hi church.

    One vocal style which I find weird is the style used by guys like Jussi Björling. When he sings O helga natt it sounds  bit too much. Country music would have sounded more natural, ie if Waylon Jennings would have sung it.

    I guess classical singing can be unatural sounding to me and many others. 

    Are people here saying that country is more natural and nearer how we normally speak? 

  7. 1 hour ago, Robert Lunte said:

    I'm on the baritone spectrum, cash is easy for me. Here's something similar and it makes the point. I didn't train to sing this or do multiple takes. It was one take and super easy for me. I suspect it would be for most capable singers. The point isn't to show off , but to point out, low singing is easy and intuitive, comparatively speaking for everyone.

    As for trust and proving anything to you. Trust that our patience for disrespect in here, will prove to be unsuccessful for you.

    Be cool. 

    Somehow I got the feeling that you are a rock singer who likes the Highwaymen. I am no authority on the subject but that's what I heard. But yes you can sing. 

    Yarl you say...then what about twang? 

    Let's be practical here: how can a vo al coach help me sing songs like this one? You say one must simply just sing them and vocal exercices are unecassary when learning this kinda  (or maybe I missunderstood you).


  8. Yes that the hiss! Have you ever tried yourself or heard students doing hiss and warmups when doing their daily stuff like making breakfast or something simmilar? Isn't that really the nice thing about singing: you can practice while doing other stuff or is this a no no? I think it can help a lot.


  9. Hi!

    I would find it interesting to know how you deal with your; so called, warmup exercices. Personally, mine are eg. breathing (mostly just the hiss exercise), lip trills, vowels. They are of course, also more than just warmups as I use them for learning intervals and so on. 

    I've tried the hiss exercice while preparing tea in the morning but...the more physical things I do the shorter my hiss become but on the other hand you sometimes play an instrument and sing which is physical. Might be difficult to get the right body position when being in the kitchen.

    People, on the other hand, talk about how you can do your exercices while preparing tea and things like that. Has this worked for you or has it not worked? What are your experiences?

  10. 11 hours ago, Robert Lunte said:

    With all due respect to Muddy Waters and Johnny Cash... I think Johnny Cash is super cool. Love the songs... but,... you don't need formal lessons to sing like that. It is comparatively easy. In fact it is EXCEEDINGLY easy. I never had to take a lesson to sing a Johnny Cash song.

    Of course. It is arguably a completely different art form, because you have to write lyrics and come up with melody. Who here has tried that? It's a different ball game.


    As a general rule. Singing in the chest voice is intuitive and easy for most people. Bridging the vocal break and singing in the head voice with connectivity is comparatively NOT easy. If your a chest voice singer, no problem. If you want to have range and get above your break, plan on becoming a student of how the voice works, getting a teacher and training content. PERIOD. There definitely is no shortcut to singing in the head voice.


    So you can sing that low octave Johnny Cash used for I walk the line. One octave lower than most guys can sing. Is this really easy?

    Why not upload a sobg and give us an example of your Johnny Cash voice? I don't trust you untill you prove it 

  11. 11 hours ago, Draven Grey said:

    There are famous singers who learned intuitively how to sing in a connected voice anobe their bridge. Freddy Mercury is often brought up to make this point. However, Freddy also would lose his voice half way through each concert, which meant he only got so far with self-learning and still had some major issues affecting his voice. Sia is another example. she also loses her voice half way through a concert. 

    You just can't mention Sia without thinking of ice cream. 

    Anyway, Freddie Mercury lost his voice mostly during his later years when performing live. I guess  the voice can get hurt later in life even if you don't feel it now.  I'm not sure this is due to not taking formal lessons as many don't kill their voices like Freddie. 

  12. Hi!

    Can you tell me how people like Muddy Waters or Johnny Cash could learn how to sing without formal lessons? What kind of special informal thing helped them? When I watch documentaries it's like they just did it and it was extremely easy for then but I don't think that's really the truth.

  13. Howdy!

    I usually do an exercice given to me by a teacher I once had. It's bassically a C harmonic scale in thirds (C-Eb-D-F...). Doing this with a piano is kind of easy. I would not be able to do this without a piano. 

    I recently talked with a musician I know and he told me something interesting. The advice was not to see singing as a theory instrument like the piano where you can easily find the notes. Piano is easy when it comes to find the intervals. Singing, he said, is a lot like talk and when you do different accents. If I could be more expressive when talking it would help my singing.

    I guess he's right. Still, I'm not comfortable with singing the intervals without the piano. What are your experiences with this?


  14. 7 hours ago, ronws said:

    Depends on how classical you find the church situation to be. I say that because of the example of Elvis Presley.

    He grew up in Tupelo, Mississippi. He lived in and went to church in the part of town that was predominantly african-american. So, he learned to sing there, too.

    In fact, my mother and my grandmother, when they first heard is first record on the radio, they thought it was a black man (their words, exactly.)


    Elvis is gospel music but what I meant by classical/church tradition could be eg Salve regina, bä bä vita lamm or Il mio tesoro

  15. Hi!

    I am taking vocal lessons from a woman in the classical/church style. We work with singing easy melodies (I play them on piano as that is my instrument) as I am not too experienced in singing. I guess a vocal coach in blues/jazz/gospel would focus on that too but also sing blues scales and microtones. 

    I have a question to you who are very experienced in singing: What is the difference between taking vocal lessons in the classical/church tradition and jazz/blues/gospel tradition?

    And yes I am aware that there are many subtraditions in these vocal traditions. And please understand that I am asking this so that I will know more information and therefore can take practical descision in life.

  16. Pax!

    What do you think about John Lennon's voice technique? How would you describe it? Do you think his songs are easy to cover? did he use many different recording techniques or did he actually sing great?

    I personally think his coolest song is Woman.

  17. They are two different interpretations. Personally, I am used to the Hank Williams version. Granted, he sings through the nose, quite a bit. But more important than that, he is trying to mimick the sound of a train whistle. Something mournful, like a train in the distance. It's more attitude than some special technique.

    So, first, learn all the words, even if you recite them as just a poem. Then you start speaking them in rhythm.

    Then, go back to the recorded versions to get your vocal cues.

    through the nose?

  18. I like I'm so lonesome I could cry by Hank Williams and the Drifting cowboys. I found two great covers of the song by Al Green and Jerry Lee Lewis. If you want to sing the song like they did (or like Hank) what do you do? Are you forced to just listen to the song and just sing and hope for the best or are there other ways to learn a song like this one?