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  1. I wonder if "twang" and "ring" or "ping" are generally the same thing. There's a great thread called "what is twang" by Martin. Search it.
  2. Without basic knowledge on how to sing it's pretty difficult to get started. I recommend getting some vocal program like Pillars, KTVA or Raise Your Voice. They'll explain what sound you generally need to look for among other important things. You have the perfect environment to become a great singer. You have a musical family. Ask them to help you out, your dad to play backing music for you and yorur bro to listen to you sing. This way you'll get two things done: 1) you'll practice with a live instrument and acoustics 2) you'll get over performing anxiety in the very start of your singing journey If you wanna get started immediately, like right now, then this forum and youtube vids on vocal technique are your best bet. The most important thing to learn though, is listening to the tone of the demonstration and listening to your own. If it's differenr, you're not doing the same thing. A good example would be me in the beginning. A vid would call for a bright tone, I'd sing it back with a dark, muffled tone that I just took to be my way of singing. I just wasn't doing the technique right, but I didn't record myself singing so I didn't learn to listen to the tone. So fast-track: get a program, start today (even if you don't get a program start today, hum along to songs or somethig, try to match the tone of the singer with no tension), ask your fam for support.
  3. What a nice discussion about Myles Kennedy we're having.
  4. Maybe it's just that Tamplin (bel canto) does it so noticeably that it stuck out. I know why it's done, it just looks like they're overdoing it (obviously they aren't, it just looked to me that way since I tend to cobstrict if I do it as much).
  5. BlahBlah: I thought as much when I started it, since the main exercises feel more like the stuff Cunodante wrote about sometime ago, about maximizing resonance with minimal effort. There's still a lot of stuff that caused me, for one, to misunderstand how the physical sensations should feel. But like I said earlier, Myles has that same weird tongue thing going on the sweet child vid.
  6. Killer, your #1 is what I referred to. I sang "civil war" a couple of times through on my 6h car ride and by the end I could sing the song pretty good with my full voice. It sort of smooths out the passaggio really good, and keeps the "singing in the pocket" sensation up.
  7. Yeah, Myles sounds like the opposite to Ken Tamplin, and I was just pointint out that if you put the male demo of the balanced mix exercises (and song, obviously, since there's the whole "applying exercises to songs" part in MM which people seem to miss) the two sound pretty much the same. If you put Tamplin's anything as the comparison then the two sound exactly the opposite, the other sounding strained while the other sounding effortless. And it's more about stylistic choice than anything else, like Blah said, the same teacher has taught singers that sound totally different. That's awesome! It's awesome to see that there's no cookie cutting. It's all about what resonates with you, whatever makes the most sense, no matter how it's said or taught (like Myles saying "it's all about how I hold my palate and how I breathe"). Also, MM is awesome. So is Pillars. And KTVA. And VA and RYV and SFTS. I'm not into bashing anything since everything has something to learn from and they all aim for pretty much the same end product. Myles' GNR stuff is great, I like his tone better than Axl's, he sounds more effortless.
  8. Weird. He sounds like an SLS singer to me rather than anything I'd imagine Belcanto taught singers singing rock would sound like. He's got that vocal fry going all the time, the way he's capping the mass of the phrases reminds me of SS/MM. It's actually almost exactly like the end result tone in MM.
  9. - Imitate Axl Rose - sing as quietly as possible - repeat until fluent - add mass to profit Also, make a VAM, you might not know just how "loud" you actually are when you sing quiet.
  10. I just stand like a stick stuck in shit, as we in the finnish heavy metal culture so aptly put it. But I keep a dreamy look on my face to fool the men and seduce the ladies, so s'all good.
  11. Jesus jetpacking christ, his tone is so perfect it's depressing. After 10 minutes of hammering at "tell me what it feels to live a lie" I nailed the tone, but it's really friggin hard to keep up. It's totally different from how I'm used to singing. As a side note: I've realized that I've made a great error in how to learn songs, and maybe some newbies do the same. I used to practice songs by just singing them through over and over and making adjustments here and there. The best and most efficient for me at least is the way Phil suggested, the way I never really got around to practicing because it felt too tedious. Every time I go back to it I ask myself "why the fq didn't I do this before?" And that way is learning the song one. Phrase. At. A. Time. Recording and retrying until it's perfect, even if it means you're stuck in the friggin first phrase of the first verse for half a day. The reason I write this is because I didn't take the hint from Phil. I just said "alright I guess I'll try" and I did for a while, but the process always had the same workflow: - I play back a difficult phrase - I try to mimic it, usually fail, repeat it a couple of times til... - i say alright f it, I'll sing it like I always do since "I can't sing like he does since it's his tone etc etc etc...." and other collected excuses... And I'd never develop an ear-voice coordination to be able to produce the same tone with my instrument. It's very unlikely that you CAN'T do the same tone, it's just a matter of getting it EXACTLY right with YOUR voice. It takes time, but once you nail it once you'll nail it always, so the return of investment is huge. I urge people to try it.
  12. Who does he take lessons with? It's curious that he has that belcanto tongue going in the sweet child vid.
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