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  1. 8 hours ago, Joana Gomes said:

    Thank you for the tips on what I need to improve.

    I was really only mentioning another option, rather than an improvement on how you chose to sing. I think that your voice seems to also be suited to a smooth mezzo sound. Maybe that could be something to explore and try out on another song some time. See how that goes down. You could be pleasantly surprised.

    YouTube has its fair share of trolls, a small minority to be ignored. People with bizarre complexes can go to weird lengths to try to discourage you. Don't give them undue attention. That would be my only YouTube advice.

  2. 4 hours ago, sideshow said:

    Not always! As you have no instruments you must keep up with and in time with. Pitch and rhythm is at your own pace

    The challenges are very different, but not absent.

    With solo a cappella, ALL the focus is on the singer's voice. It's a lot less forgiving place to be when it comes to tone, consistency, relative pitch, expression and dynamic.

    Instruments help a lot when it comes to expression and dynamic. For example, a phrase emphasized by drums punching through becomes a lot more difficult if the voice has to communicate a similar "punchiness" on its own. In a mix, it is easy to be fooled into thinking the voice is doing much more than it is. If you were to hear the vocals solo, it would really put the difference in perspective.

    Even if the voice is eventually going to sit well in a mix, it can still sound very uninspiring by itself, unless the singer can generate enough depth, fullness and dynamic of sound. That is where the challenge is.

    [OK. Read a couple of your other posts. I know who your are. BYE!!!]

  3. (Nice background story.)

    I'd say that practically all songs are challenging. If you are not challenged, you either don't get the song, or you are not working hard enough.

    Anyway, to give a credible performance the way you did, and to do it a cappella (nowhere to hide), would definitely challenge a lot of singers.

    I'm hearing more heady tones, and less of the "darker mezzo" sound. I can hear the darker rich mezzo tones "lurking" in your voice, but you don't really bring them out?

    Maybe I am biased. All my favourite female singers use that mezzo sound.

    (You in London? Brexit just took a nasty turn with the permanent status application thing.)

  4. [Constriction and "choking" can also be a protective reflex. If the body detects that the pressure or airflow at the throat is unhealthy, it says, "forget the singing" and reflexes to shut off the problem. Just like your "blink" reflex, it is not a good idea to try to simply override it psychologically. You need to address the thing that is causing the reflex. For singing this is likely to be something like inadequate breath support.]

    Anyway, back to the OP. Decent vocals, imo.

    With proper diaphragmatic breath support, your voice will glide effortlessly straight over the passaggio, and you will get that responsiveness and agility you are looking for. I notice in classical training techniques that they make a big deal out of breath support (probably coming from traditions of singing without a mic), and relatively less of a deal about the passaggio (even though the term comes out of that pedagogy). Once you are able to employ a good diaphragmatic breath support method, .like appoggio, the passaggio is no longer a big challenge. It gets "fixed" almost automatically.

    Add that to the fact that you are able to siren up to G5 (wobbly, but an impressive foundation), I think you can really take your vocals places. 

    Yup, I am not a coach. Just my personal take. ;)

  5. Part of gaining confidence is discovering that things are nowhere near as bad as you imagine.

    It's a classic catch. You need the confidence to take the first step, but you need to take the first step to see what it is about and gain the confidence.

    The other thing is that negative opinions and thoughts are only as potent as the attention you give them.

    So forget all the imagined "horror" scenarios and think of the time when you are looking back and saying, "what on Earth was I worried about?". That is the prize you are aiming for.

    As a start, bear in mind that any competent teacher has seen and heard it all before: singers of all abilities. All the teacher is thinking about is building a voice -- none of the negative opinions you may have grown up around. So it really is up to you to drop that fear. The teacher is not going to even bat an eyelid.

    Listening to your clips, I would think that the first thing a teacher would tell you to do is to RELAX! Don't try to compensate for doubts in your head!

    Think six months ahead, man. I am not hearing anything in your clips that could stop you from sweeping away all your doubts within six months.

    It's your career. Is it worth that patience?

     

  6. It is amazing to me how Bollywood manages to churn out these beautiful tunes. What genre is it?

    (Sometimes, not understanding the language is a blessing. I am often disappointed if I see the translated lyrics. They are usually very average. :))

    Anyway, listening to you singing, I would say that you have good pitch appreciation (you may be  thinking, "of course", but it is a big deal for some beginners).

    You do have some problems with execution as the pitch ascends (or occasionally as it fluctuates quickly), even though you seem to be aiming for the right notes.

    It sounds to me as if this is mainly to do with breath regulation and is made more difficult with a genre of music that uses a lot of melisma and arpeggios.

    I would recommend finding an appropriate diaphragmatic breathing technique. However, as I have not come across any coach or trainer of Western music who has correctly characterized the unique sound of this genre of singing,  I can't really say which diaphragmatic breathing technique will work well. Somehow the Indian singers manage to get a lot of "cry" in the upper range, while keeping the lower range mellow. Some Western trainers confuse this with breathiness.

    In your singing, I think that the mellow lower end is going to come naturally. Breath control will be required to find the resonance in the upper range.

    That's my two cents worth of opinion. 

  7. I hear voices in the background. It may only be my (vivid) imagination, but you sound to me as if you don't want to attract too much attention to yourself. You sound as if you are singing to yourself.

    If you are singing somewhere where you are not yet comfortable, I advise that it is an absolute MUST to find somewhere where you can relax. If you don't, you could end up training all kinds of inhibition and nervousness or tension into your voice.

  8. 7 hours ago, Xamedhi said:

    Not at all. My main point is that "spitting" air through the folds could be counterproductive or even dangerous if overdone and over an extended period of time. I personally don't use much "quack" kind of sound, for singing or trianing, but I know how to do it, and when I do I don't change much about the airflow, only vocal tract motions and positions.

    If it's benefiting you, keep using it, of course.

    The spitting is a very slight thing. In the video below (1m 00s onward) he describes it as "little pockets of air that kind of break through the cords. It's a really light thing, it's not forced at all". It is that innocuous "micro-bursting" that creates the edginess of the sound.

    We are talking about a fraction increase in pressure causing the air to come out in pockets rather than a cleaner stream.

    Full cord closure will give you what some people call necessary twang. This is the normal amount of twang that you may not even associate with twang. Anything beyond that, and you are "leaning in" with more force than is required just for cord closure. But you are also using more air pressure than is necessary for a "clean" phonation. And you will increase that "bursting pockets of air effect". Sure, you mustn't overdo it!

    If you listen to his vocal fry at around 1m 00s, you will hear him breath out until the fry bites. While cord closure is important, what is really important is that the air pressure is on the high side relative to whatever compression you are using for the cord closure.

    You do need to shape your vocal tract to amplify the edgy sound, but the actual edginess comes from the vocal folds.

    http://www.askavocalcoach.com/how-do-i-make-myself-sound-more-edgy-1704/

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    If you desire an edgier sound, you’re probably going to have to start playing more with leaning deeper into cord closure and possibly incorporating more nasal or forward sounding resonance (some people also call this pharyngeal).

     

  9. 33 minutes ago, Xamedhi said:

    The quack is produced by twang, the pharynx contraction, which makes the space smaller and produces better fold closure, AND amplifies a lot the higher frequencies of the voice. Also it tends to have a higher larynx ( you can twang with a lower larynx too and it sounds brighter, but there still are a lot of low harmonics ) this is why the Quack sounds so metallic and edgy. 

    "Smaller space" where, and how does does that "produce better fold closure"?

    "that is why quack sounds so metallic and edgy" does not follow from anything you have said. You can have rich higher harmonic content without any edginess.

  10. On 4/5/2016 at 7:39 PM, JonJon said:

    for me its the opposite. What I am feeling as "quack" (really mega duck sounding) is related more to a choking/squeezing feeling where I was using twang to try to squeeze out a note higher and higher but it just gets too tight and thats that. Its the feeling I get when near the top of my headvoice.

    I think quack or twang is caused by the air flow "spitting" through the folds. The harmonics it produces still have to be guided to your resonance centres to be amplified, and the more relaxed you vocal tract, the more it can shape as a wave guide.

    On 4/5/2016 at 7:39 PM, JonJon said:

    Today at work I had a pretty solid breakthrough related to hitting higher notes and connecting better etc to do with feeling the connection and resonance more in the soft palate as opposed to just trying to squeeze harder and harder. I got a great feeling of squeezing the gut and having a good hard connection of air pressure all the way from the diaphragm up to the soft palate....and was picturing the sound coming off and bouncing forward off of the soft palate. That really helped me to avoid squeezing/choking when trying to get higher notes.

    All in all in the last 3 days or so my whole level of singing technique has taken huge steps. Its pretty exciting. Now I need to do some study to be able to identify exactly WHAT I am doing lol

    Yep. Finding where the resonance feedback is will help you tune your vocal tract to best guide the sound.

    And these Eureka moments are the best! They really bring out the researcher in me. Your vocal instrument is like a whole laboratory that you carry around with you, with the keys at you fingertips....yes.. the keys...

  11. On 4/3/2016 at 6:34 AM, JonJon said:

    I was trying to feel the sensation of letting go of some of the "quack" of those top notes to let the top note be lighter like a falsetto and I almost got it a few times but couldnt quite nail it.

    I was also trying a few ways to get the high falsetto to bridge into the head voice seamlessly or vice-versa....I got it close a few times

    If the diaphragm controls the pressure accurately, then "quack" becomes optional.

    My take on things is that the vocal folds don't like to be caught half way in a high pressure draught (draft). It is damaging.

    They will either want to compress tightly against the draught, or fly wide open out of the way. So, you will tend to get either a compressed sound, or a falsetto.

    To get a light sound that isn't falsetto, you need high pressure without the high airflow (draft). To achieve this, the diaphragm has to walk a tightrope. And psychologically, you have to have confidence in your diaphragm to walk that tightrope and keep the pressure right, without any "gusts" of air. Lack of confidence in that can still trigger the protective reflex that flips the folds into high compression or wide open, which is why I think that high notes can be a psychological problem as well as a physical one.

    So, I think it is all about accurately controlling air pressure with diaphragmatic opposition.

    My voice is practically "quackless", and I can slide up and down to C5 without too much problem in terms of breaks or vowel changes. I find myself more concerned with playing around with the volume.

    The flip side is that, although I am not a big fan of quack, I still want the option of a little quack, but I don't really know what produces a lot of it. I've been told it is "good vocal fold closure", but I find that is what makes any quack I do have go away. I can hold a quackless note for much longer than a quacky one, because the quacky one leaks more air..

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