RockNSoulLover

No joke, I wanted to try to cover this Sarah's way in fasletto! I prefer her version. You: Pretty girl. Pretty voice. I have to say, I kind of miss that mysterious reverb effect. Would you consider adding it as an alternative version?

Nice :-). Electricity fascinated me as a child (yeah, it didn't get TOO dangerous ), surprised I didn't do something with it. That sounds like a lot! Amazing to go to that from homelessness. I did sciencecy stuff, but I always wanted to be a writer. I don't know how that happened. Is everything easier from 1975 with things like CAD and general computing? tex-mex lol. I only know a bit of castillian, and I can't keep up if they speak fast.

Oh no, Im sorry if it came off that way. It's just me being critical of myself. I appreciated your comments, as always :D

I was thinking Heldentenor, but their roles tend to require huge breath support, which I've only recently got access to... somewhat. I had bad asthma (to the point where my allergist told me that I cannot sing anything until I got it under control). In comes symbicort , and I can now get up to Cs and such. Interesting, Im not too far off, Im 27 (ugh as 30 approaches...) I'm not sure if it's healthy. I've been told it sounds tense by those with better musical ears (no offence to you; some people actually just dedicate their lives to voice). For example Felipe above (once I clicked his link) is an actual vocal coach, who , interestingly enough has a section on "classification" I can get away with most of this in pop. But I notice a lot of big/showy pop vocalists lose their voices much more quickly. I'm a big fan of Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Stevie Wonder, Robert Plant, etc. All "big voiced" people. But they all seemed to lose their gifts rather quickly, even though they could sound great to most people. Stevie didn't largely because he invested in operatic training once he noticed he was getting sore a bit after nightly singing, and he has a much higher sitting voice than I do. Mariah, I loved her range. I liked being able to sing low then high. Even now, I get asked to be a "fill in" for whatver is missing. If a group needs a tenor, I sing that, if they need a bass, I sing that. I sing as a hobby, really. I'm far too shy to really want to do it otherwise. I'm a scientist as a living.

Resident troll? lol. I can hit a C6 in falsetto so maybe if they let me :P

I've gotten this before. I don't know how to fix it? It doesn't hurt at all and I can do it multiple times. Is there anything in particular you hear that I am doing wrong? I'm really trying to imitate Pav/Bocelli/Diego Flores/Sherill without any training, so I'm not sure if that's wise to do considering those three are very, very trained. I did have one vocal lesson, and the teacher just asked me "So tenor or baritone?". Am I in danger of losing my voice like that even if it doesn't feel "bad" now? I'm 27 if that matters. Another thing that is odd: I tend to lose my voice speaking quicker than I do with singing. After a night of singing, I'm still okay. If I "speak up" in a bar, my voice is hoarse the next day. Does my speaking voice sound unhealthy as well? What do you recommend I do first? Would you describe any of my influences as tense? They are: Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Robert Plant Steve Perry Peabo Bryson Pavorotti Bocelli Diego Flores Barry White Issac Hayes Stevie Wonder Celine Dion Lara Fabian Axl Rose Christina Aguilera (okay, this is probably just silly to mention as she seems to be every vocal coach's "dont" ) My vocals are pretty much just a combination of trying to imitate all of these people at some point in my life (of course, an octave lower or so for the females). I'm making a program to test for my resonance peaks; I'm not sure if that will help. If it helps, it seems I don't employ much effort until around E4. After that, I can feel my voice "switch" so to speak. I feel it more in my head. I just kept working in this direction until I could get up to the 5th octave without feeling it hurt. I'm trying to "mix" as they say.

I want to try singing classical and opera styles, but I have no training. In pop, it doesn't matter what your voice type is, but it seems central to classical. Can anyone help me determine if I should try tenor, baritone, or bass roles? I go from my highest comfortable to my lowest and include my speaking voice (I am not sure if that matters): http://vocaroo.com/i/s1wLU3VQZcr4 warning: my speaking voice is almost inaudible (I get told to "speak up sir" almost everywhere) but my singing voice isn't. I backed up about 7 ft from the mic and kept it at the same sensitivity so it is as close to "usable classically"

Woah, you'd feel as if I were a midget. I'm 5'5" 130 Congrats on the loss; don't go overboard however, at 6'6" and your chest size, I'd imagine perhaps 300-350 as good for you? I'm not a Dr. however. You're definitely some form a tenor. Sometimes, people go by what notes you're hitting. This is, by my reading, largely incorrect. It depends on where your "tessitura" lies, or where you can really sing the longest without fatigue while keeping your beauty and ease of voice. If you tried to sing an alto's material, say "Another Sad Love Song" by Toni Braxton, you'd probably find the end of it way to hard because she spends half the song belting a note or 2 higher than the highest there--over and over. People can have a lot of range, too, which can throw some off. I'm a bass-baritone type, and I can hit some of the notes you're doing here, but if I attempted the whole song that high, I'd fatigue because it's in a tenors "tessitura" Amazing voice and good luck w/ the weight loss!

I'm about to head to bed and so is my other so I sang it softly I really like the song (sound of silence) , and can't find anyone to do it with, so I figured I'd try to do my own two part for it. I might do it with music/full; it's just a rough draft. Tell me if it's convincing enough: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1UE1GvZEos7

yeah that's what I mean. That "carry over the music" ability with large instrumentation is largely resonance based. It's what allows a tiny woman to fill up an opera hall with her voice over a large orchestra w/o a microphone. It's no big deal at all, as he sounds amazing, but he asked us to nitpick :cool:

this guy seems to be doing that "natural reverb" thing I was talking about. See how when he goes up there, it sounds like there's a lot going on even tho it's just one voice? His voice is resonating more (basically some overtone frequencies come in that are far higher the the pitch he's singing). This is also what gives opera singers their ability to carry over orchestras. I think it's called "squillo" in opera, and tends to occur around the 2500Hz-5000Hz range (hence a part of it sounds like there's a lot "covering" his voice) there. He even lowers his jaw a lot more for the big notes, something you'll see operatic tenors doing. He probably, like you, doesn't think about it either. You can probably do the same. I can't; I just know what it is :rolleyes:

He does, but he has a point. In actuality, a lot of these singers are like this; we hear the finished product, which by the time they finish--IS easy to them, in much the same fashion that a body builder can lift things I'd get herniated over. It does take work. Hmm, Stiletto, I'm not a vocal coach, but a lot of what they do is "mixing," where they bridge the falsetto/headvoice with chest. From doing it myself (I could be doing it wrong not sure), it seems like once you get there, you have to remember to project. Another thing is that when you do it, the sound will resonate more in your head. I find this is sort of a bad thing because you then hear yourself a lot louder than you think you are. I've hit mixed notes, where I focused on hearing it myself, only to play it back and have it sound much less powerful than I thought. Conversely, I've done them and projected (thinking OUT instead of UP) where they sound very strong on record but, at the time, they didn't sound as strong to me, possibly because the "heady" part of the mix is being more evenly distributed and projected. Perry was a master of this. He could hit high notes with any intensity he wanted. "Wheel In the Sky" is one where it's one constant soft fluttery high note. It sounds to me like you're mixing correctly--but possibly not projecting because you think it's as you hear it resonating in your head when you do it?

Nope. Not nearly that smart! Don't say that about yourself! You seem analytical enough . Musicologist Oh, sorry. By all means then. I thought you sounded good. I don't have perfect pitch, and I have no vocal training, so some of those things get a free pass from me I guess. I thought you had a light timbre compared to Perry's. I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "massive airflow". I'm a big fan of Perry's voice, and given how perfect he sounds, I bet he is exactly like this. I've even heard of Maria Callas practicing for hours until others wanted to just go home <<

Oh you sound like me. Are you a scientist of some sort? I have a habit of doing this, too. Getting so technical that it isn't fun and probably risks sounding less and less real. 1. Massive air 2. In time 3. Tone/texture 4. In tune 5. Stress free 6. Passion How can you do all that while thinking this much? A producer would hate this? Producers spend hours in autotune, even for classical musicians. You sound like me in my head--it's so analytical that it's too much. Just my 2 cents. Also I'd have to hear the whole thing?

Dude are you fishing for compliments or just that self-critical?> You slid right up there, something I believe even Perry took operatic training to achieve. There was no strain, no wavering of pitch (as far as I can tell), and your voice is incredibly like his (though maybe a more forward timbre). IDGI? Some of us try really hard just to get notes like that to even occur once a day :mad:

You have a good country timbre!! I don't listen to much country, but my only criticism would be to maybe use some vibrato at the end of select phrases (light because this isn't R&. It'll help the talking delivery in the verses. You don't do it in the chorus, so it might be a stylistic choice. If so, ignore my suggestion and continue. Can you do "Breathe" by Faith Hill (it was originally supposed to be recorded for a man but it was in Faith's range so she took it)?

Thankx!. Odd, I actually put an emphasis on hitting the note dead on as opposed to crescendoing (I think thats the word). Hmm, I'll prob redo this and: 1) Do it softer with a build (I don't think the hard belting goes to well acapella/acoustic?) I don't want to sound exactly like Plant, but ty for the vid . I do want that falsetto/chest whatever thing he does in some songs (Imigrant Song etc). I have always been told I have a powerful strong belt, so I like to use it--but not used to using it as high as Rob. New territory for me. Oddly enough, i wasn't able to do it 2 years ago or so. After 24, my voice changed more, and I was able to belt higher. Odd.

w00t some soul to balance out the rock on this forum :D You have that perfect tone where all your words are clear. It was nice to hear those lows from your voice too given the natural height. Would you do a Frank Sinatra or Michael Buble song? That's prob sound amazing. Also, what are you using to produce this? Are you a professional with a studio? It sounds like something I'd hear on someone's actual studio album. Share your compression settings/eq settings etc if yer doing this on your own, because it's hard for me in audacity :mad:

You know, everyone is jumping at pitch. Here's the thing: until one sings enough in the song, unless they have a degree in music of have studied it semi-formally, they don't know that "this is the note I sing here". So it comes down to natural "feeling" where they should be. I find a lot of the times, many people don't listen to the nuances in the song structure before recording. I am guilty of this at times. You just WANT to sing it. Have you REALLY listened to the song? Becuase you say, "that's the way the song goes" im imagining that you don't hear it yet? If it helps, download her version, and lower it to the key you are in and hear her as if it were in that key. That may give you a good start.

I wish I could do that with my voice. Your ending is well handled, and it has the heaviness I thought was impossible without full belting it. How are you doing that? BTW, I really liked this, you flubbed the lyrics a bit . But it didn;t matter much. My only criticism is to sing it a bit with more gusto at the end verse because the instrumentation gets punchier. I'm still not over how easily you guys can handle the ending of this song. I feel like I'm at the vocal olympics at that point.:rolleyes:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s032F5Nosywj I tied to this with a rock tinge. I get a lot of comments about how I keep my vocal delivery too restricted, so I'm playing with it now. This is a good belty song to practice with and it's not in the 5th octave for a millennia like a lot of Plant's work I can get loud belting, a word of warning, though it doesn't hurt at all. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right but it feels fine? Any help is cool. This is in one take as well (trying to sound like I would live). At this point my idolization of Plant's voice is as apparent as his bulge in nearly every other frame of his concerts in the late 70s :cool:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iqxz2xGryx One take. I used to sing this in college, and would always falsetto out the high notes at the end (never had the courage to try them unless drunk). It's a key that's a bit high but managemable....but that damn ending Could Robbie really sing this live like the recording back then? It's hard because it's right around the 5th octave at the end on, which doesn't come to easily to me (my talking voice is actually high bassish idgi ). Anyway, it was fun to attempt, but I don't think I'd ever perform this one. I'm off time a bit cause I hadn't listened to the song a bit. At the end, there's a pause, cause I'm trying to keep the breath up for the phrases (I have asthma and no vocal training ), Let me know what you guys think. What am I hitting those end notes in? Head voice? It doesn't feel like chest voice when I do it, but it doesn't feel like falsetto either, and I can (barely) control/vibrato it. Should I avoid those notes altogether or are they part of my range that I should work on with a coach etc? Btw, I do a lot of vocal "wahwah" stuff. I liked when Plant did it live, not sure if it goes well with my darker timbre tho.

I really love this song, but it's not very easy at all with all the dynamic switches, runs, and belts, but I thought of trying it as it fits well in my higher comfort range (a note and a 1/2 or so higher than this and it becomes effort) so I'm able to play with it a bit. I tried to sing it in a classical delivery. Anyway, I'd love to have a fully workable cover of this song. This is the first half in one take. Let me know where I should improve. Thankx. Oh something very odd that maybe some of your more vocal pedadogists can help me with: My belted notes (when I record them) are sometimes lower in volume (higher amplitude in Audacity) than my middle stuff but "seem" louder. Is this okay? I have no training, so I don't know if it's right but it feels easy and I can add vibrato? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1YBCpCSrcMf