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  1. I do strain my voice the way I think you mean it, or to name it better: I do use "force" or push it and I do a lot, but I do not feel my vocal cords to "bleed", when I feel that and I feel mostly when I do not properly warm up my vocal cords, I stop singing or I place the muscles again at the proper position, I don't know if I name the sensation right. But I use force after the vocal warm up or else the vocal cords will hurt for days. the point is not if you strain or not the voice, the point is if you do strain it and hurt for days and you cannot hit the notes anymore, you are doing something wrong. If you do strain it and you can sing over and over again for hours everyday for years and years with no vocal problems (aside common cold etc), then I think 100% you are doing it right.
  2. After a whole year of practicing here is the result with the same aria opinions are warmly welcome! 2015
  3. hello rowns, this is something that it is true, but I think it is a phrase little bit exaggerated or we might interpret it wrong. I also have read that you not suppose to push and not use your throat muscles and all that, but the truth is that the cords to move, some muscle movement must occur, right? I guess what they mean is not to use muscles that aren't necessary for making a sound. I guess if we use extra muscles we push too much the vocal cords and we abusing them. Like we are punching ourselves to be stronger and at the end we end up with bruises. I was reading a lot of articles about lowered larynx and twang, and I read that the twang is used by vocal therapists to correct bilateral vocal fold paralysis. and I read an article but I lost it to post it today, I don;t remember how it pop up in google:mad:, with various experiments about twang. and even at articles with classical singing they advise to use it for belting strongly and they claim it is the only thing that can save the voice from abuse. And if you belt and you don;t use twang at all, because of the pushing to the vocal cords to sound louder, it can result to nodules! And I also read that when we were babies we are using that mechanism to cry, thats why we are so loud when we cry! I guess thats why Janis in Cry Baby sung it perfect! But to use such thing you must feel something:)
  4. I clean the calcium build up in my water boiler with vinegar, any vinegar would do the trick for me:) And int he washing machine can be very good to prevent it.
  5. oh! then yes, I guess someone can belt easier with a higher larynx. but with a higher larynx I personally do sound a lot like a duck! but its cute and funny!
  6. Hello Martin, I have been lurking a lot at this forum and thank you and all of the members for sharing their knowledge, I can say for sure this forum must be literally a place of maybe the best singing info in the world While in opera I have found a better placement, in pop singing I was still struggling a lot. Yesterday I was testing my voice in an opera position and I was trying to make that sound more "forward"? Im not sure what is the correct word, so I apologize if I create confusion, but the result was that it sounded like I was singing with a southern accent:/ Then I discover more consciously the twang. Today I was exercising an intense twang position (not pushed, just more ducky sound), I tried to have a neutral larynx, and when I felt that I "got it" I was producing the Anastasia sound, but because Im not interested of such sound, unless I want to use it for stylistic purposes, I tried to control it, to use it less intense and I lowered my larynx a little bit. This is when finally a voice came out and I was "belting", without force, full, connected and I notice that it didn't need too much air or push. If I was forcing air (because of old habits), I would feel it right away in my vocal cords like it is too much on them , so I was adjusting the air to healthier levels. My mother used to sing professionally for years in Greece, and today she heard me and she said, she never heard me creating such sound before. It is a good quality of sound. Basically this is a historical moment for me, and I should keep the date, on my little adventure in singing:D Someone in some old posts mentioned that singers in Bel Canto do use "twang" a lot, or should I say, the mechanism that triggers twang is been used in the Bel Canto technique? I don;t know if this is true or not, but from my observations it may be true and it worked for me. So, my point is, that depends the singer, the way you want to sound, the style, etc... belting for some may be easier with a twang and a neutral or lowered larynx, (I hit today amazingly easy very high notes.) and for others it is easier with a higher larynx.
  7. hi Jens, because when I used to do this, it was all wrong and my vocal cords would hurt for days. But I stop trying to "control" it and I saw better results because I educate myself better of the throat physiology and I still have a lot of things to learn. I believe after someone allows softly and correctly the voice to come out and has the first feeling of proper placement, after that someone can experiment and discover the sound ones wants to make by choice instead by ignorance, because if you are ignorant, then more vocal problems will arise and frustration and I know this first hand.:)
  8. exactly Geno, it is a better approach than meds in my experience. but I would like also to add, there is a difference eating the vinegar in a salad and drinking with water for me. If I eat it with a salad for some reason it is too strong sometimes, but with water, its very helpful and I feel my stomach less irritated. @ronws, my father used to hunt and I used to go with him as well. But my empathy grew a lot at my teenage years and this is one of the reasons I avoid eating meat. But when I feel that my body needs it, I eat it. I know when my body needs it because it doesn't smell bad to me like it usually does. When I stopped eating meat in big portions, it started smelling and tasting bad to me, especially the bacon. No matter how much seasoning I will use, it has that bad taste. And I didn't grew up with vegans, the opposite, my grandfather used to have sheep and he used to eat them every Easter and at the August 15 which is for us a big holiday for the Holy Mary. And I used eat the brains!:lol: today I cannot even see them!
  9. ok, today was larynx position day (for pop) for me..... It was very challenging not to raise the larynx for some reason, even though in opera this is no problem for me, when I did manage to produce a sound with a lowered larynx and I record myself, for me, the difference was big. My higher notes weren't anymore childish, they had a nice deep, more female sound to it, it has a color and heaviness similar to the one I produce in my opera singing, but without the obvious opera sound. Another positive thing that I notice, was that it didn't need any extra force, the sound would be already "big", it doens't need to be pushed, i did push it, just to check various volumes, and I realize that regular airflow/push is much better. Plus with a mic that can sound even more impressive (i hope:lol:) And I felt my vocal cords less heavy afterwards. Thats my personal experience, but it is something that I have to train, but I have to add that I didn;t lower my larynx too much, just enough to have the "open throat" technique. other than that I also notice that it was better to direct the sound to my "mask" as a head voice, or else would be too "muddy", I hope thats the correct term. :)
  10. ok, so in this example you are positioning your larynx higher (or neutral?). but at the video of Robert his positioning his larynx lower when he does the same thing. wouldn't both be called belts technically? one with a higher or neutral larynx the other with a lowered larynx? what did you MDEW posted? im curious thank you all for your replies I think I understand it better.
  11. ok, thats great info, I guess the word belting the way I understand it, is wrong. what I want is to produce a deeper, darker sound at the higher notes in rock/pop singing than just thin and forced squeezed sound. what Robert talks about the lowered larynx at the higher notes I thought the term is belting. sorry If I confused anyone. :)
  12. :P ok, so in opera at the bel canto style for example, they use the lower larynx technique thorough the range. but not very much not to create problems. then in pop/rock some singers who make an impressive "belting", they use the technique of lowered larynx at the higher notes or when they want to "belt", but at the rest of the song depends how they want to portray it or express it, might use neutral, or lowered larynx? well, high larynx for me is not something I would like to use anymore, but I guess it is good to know how it feels more consciously, to avoid it. right?:)
  13. Hello fellow singers, I have read a lot of stuff about vocal technique the last few months, so I apologize if my post will sound little confusing, I might also be little confused. Lurking through this forum, I read many positive posts mentioning Robert Lunte and I check some of his videos and he seems like a person who really knows the science behind singing. Anyway, at one of his videos he showed how a low larynx, especially at the high notes, can help the singer to produce that rich impressive sound and he calls that as "world class" sound. But I notice when he was doing this, he was also changing his position of his mouth and the vowel also becomes darker. But others claim that some famous singers actually keep a neutral larynx. But when I hear many singers belting at the high notes, I do hear a "deepness" in the voice and a lowered larynx might indeed be the "little" secret many professionals use to create that sound. But I also read that pushing the larynx too low with the root of your tongue may actually harm you, so it is good to know how to really control it. And then I also read that in pop/rock singers use neutral/high larynx and only in classical training they use the low larynx position. (that was the absolute confusion) And then I know for a fact because I study Bel Canto, about the yawn position, which lowers the larynx and this is how many singers are able to produce a darker, richer, fuller sound. The lowering larynx was a novelty in the 1830s, Garcia first introduced this technique singing with a lowered larynx. From what I have read, before Garcia, singers might have used a higher position or a neutral larynx to sing opera, and that is making the voice to sound brighter and maybe more agile, but this might be because of the technique not necessarily the position of the larynx because when I lower my larynx gently, I find it easier to sing coloratura. What you guys think? did you try in pop/rock singing this? what is your input? :)
  14. hello Ranws, lol, girlish figure! Because my diet of is mostly based on raw food, fruits and salads, I want to take the full fat from the milk or yogurt, and other foods, it helps me to keep a little bit of belly, because a very flat belly is not very good for bellydance! I did meant the full fat, because I think the lower fat based yogurts might have less probiotic value, but I might be wrong. Reading little more info over the internet, the low fat might be better for some people. ;)
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