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Ha ha I actually laughed out loud.... I have never spoke to you before, but I can say you have won lmao I dont like ron much though. I am 6'4 218...and I dont like people taller than me, I am used to being the highest bar in the graph ha ha ha. If I ever take the hour trip up to Sherman to see ron, gonna have to wear my goth boots to get a couple inches lol.

Sucks cant hear much if it...your voice is very quiet. Though that little burst at the end...I wanna hear more of that lol

I don't lmao!!!! Have you seen the avatar of mr. Miami up there ha ha ha... Anyways, bono like you I was poorly diagnosed one fach up from a bass originally. That set me back for some time. Fortunally, I refused to believe and got the range I have now. However, that did come at a price of still having some bad habits. Range isnt an issue, but weird pronunciation at times is. Also weird coverings right before I hit pure head voice. Been working on those for some time slowly correcting and improving. Now this is the month I am going to finish the fix, and make that big jump. Have that bastard narrrowed down to g#4-b#4 lol, just gotta finish the killing. I am going to do that with a big gutsy change. That was my point I was arriving to. Dont be affraid to attempt big changes and stick to them. Listen real carefully what issues are in your voice and what you want to change. Be very real with yourself. It sounds like you might have picked up some bad habits as I did, trying to be what you think you could only be. One thing I learned and am still learning is. You have way more control over your voice than you think. Or at least I thought lol

Dude you are a trip killer...the beginning part had me laughing, thought I was in a sci fi movie lol. In seriousness though, i def understand what you are saying and demonstrating . You were basically adding over amount of twang, then going to absolutely nothing. I am actually in a conversation about this exact subject in the technical section. I def use the heavy twang up top, I have an angry cat impersonation on there to prove it ha ha. However, bringing that lower for me isnt comfortable or sound super great. So I use a bit of a cover, and a bit extra compression. I think its the way my vocal track is designed that causes this. Also too much time in the opera world. To me it sounds bono uses the same style In a sense. However, I will say, i would love to build the ability to either bring more modal up, or bring more even head down. So far I am convinced that it is biology and how my vocal mechanism and acoustic area work together. However, I have no problem to admit when wrong if someone proves it. Though, time, study, and trial and error speak to my conclusion. However,this is one time I would enjoy to have to eat crow.

I think you sounded great bono...I agree with strength, I like it better than the original. I also agree maybe some parts you could open the vowel "just a hair" if you really wanted to knit pick. This is the first song I have heard of yours, I was un aware you were on that level...once again you sounded great. I want to also make a comment to killer's post. The way bono is assending upwards on that partially closed sound. I think that gives some people trouble and others not, some people sound great doing this others not so much. It has some to do with training, opera for example will help build up closed vowels. However, I really think it has alot to do with design of the neck and resonating area, back pressure build up and all the other accoustic properties. Some people can rip in a way on a more closed vowel, where another will get choked off or experience discomfort. I only say this as I myself can handle closed notes like that pretty easily with little issue(almost covered in a way). He sounded comfortable like me in that aspect. If I open a vowel, usually it will be for a tone choice, not out of necessity. This would be a strong suit for me, and from my guess bono, because he sounded like it had no effect on him. However, there is a double edged sword to this. In your sample (killer) you twanged early and had a early pharyngeal tone, which I have a hard time to really dial that in before c5. I would like to bring that in earlier many times especially in live settings for increased stamina. However, this still isnt an option to me yet, as i still havent got the right sound with yet. And it may never be an option who knows. I really believe these differences are a product of the individual accoustic areas of each person. You may be able to get a female to emulate a male voice with training, but a male will do it naturally without training...and 99 percent of the time sound better

Good mr fu......believe you forgot to unlock the link.

Suppose if you really wanted to make the most progress at the best cost to progress level. I would say buy a course like Roberts....MAYBE cvt or tamplins. However, I know the people behind roberts course and pretty sure it would be hard to beat. Then get a personal lesson once a month, twice a month if it could be swung while working with the program. I never took a course such as that. All my training came from one on one,group, ect. Then as time passed, my training came from trial and error from performance to performance and show to show. After the show figure out what went wrong lol. Why my voice hurt, why it was more difficult to control the last 20 minutes, why the high end lost some of its sharpness...ect ect ect. Try to make adjustments, rinse and repeat. Though I would say the real time learning is irreplaceable. But if I had to do it all over again, I would do it as I said above. Mixing that with getting out and just doing earlier. I spent too much time and money early on just training, especially in opera. I will say this, and please dont blast me too much teachers as this is not an insult. I can say for a fact I learned more from two lives shows than 20 lessons. In my opinion, the most effective a teacher can be is teach the basics, then telling the student go use it. Then being there for the student to help with whatever issues. Least that is what I would have loved. "Hey coach, i sung these 8 songs, these three I got tight and worn out"...or something along those lines. That would have been great instead of having to struggle through it alone and trial error. Wow this got way too long...sorry

Yeah....he def does not need auto tune. Sad though, even great singers now days are auto tuning a tad just to keep up with the jones

I dont know if I would work on your heady/falsetto tone that much. Maybe get just a tad bit more closure if you wanted to. I think its pretty powerful for how far away from the mic you are, with zero effects. If you were singing like that into a real mic, with compression and all the usual studio effects. Your falsetto would sound just as good as anyone's else on the radio, or better. You really sound pretty well balanced and just like someone I would here on the radio singing this style. I mean sure there are little stuff you could work, little more closure for your light tone, a tad bit more control. But even Pavarotti could knit pick his voice with tiny issues. The day you say my voice is 100 percent is the day either your ego takes over logic.....well thats the only occasion I can think of Lol. However, when you get down to knit picking, then I would say you are doing great. That is surely what I would have to do to find issue with your vocals..... Oh and fyi i was speaking of the original post

I had just got this song out of my head a month ago. Thanks for bringing it up again *eye roll*

I can hear the metal technique in your voice. Possible new gent?? One this with this type of music, you need variation. You sung the entire song the same, which comes from the constant power needed in metal. However with lighter stuff like this, there is no power vocals to rely on. No big range, ect. That is what makes the song so intimate. So vary your voice, lighten it up, with random spots of connection ect. Just think of how you would feel saying these words on music like this. How would your voice change, that gut feeling, ect. That is just my two cents

Give me that smooth distortion ya ass hole!!!! Ha ha...jk...well not the distortion part, gimmie that distortion lol

I love it when a female singer has depth to her voice. Doesnt just sound like another mickey mouse screecher. She has alot of cool over tones in her voice, power, and cool style. To her, YOU SOUND GREAT... To Robert, good job with your guidance, hope the momentum keeps going.

Hey thanks daniel!!! Appreciate it....welcome back by the way, I know you have been out of town swamped for a bit

Awesome!! Thanks maestro!! Will certainly do