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  1. Good question. A lot of singing resources online claim it is a automatic response when relaxing into a held note. Others say to have to learn it by deliberately modifying a note's pitch similar to vibrato on a guitar (which is actually tremelo I think?) until it becomes consistent. And yet others says that tremolo is dangerous and can cause wear on vocal chords and it should come from the diaphragm.. Probably more confusing than vocal registers I haven't helped have I?
  2. I'm glad it's not just me! In fact, as a beginner (two years of solid singing and practice), I have decided to get that E4 - Bb4 area rock solid before trying grit again because if I do it wrong I think it has a tendency to make me sound flat, then it sounds like I am straining (although I feel I'm not) which is not the effect I am trying to achieve.
  3. Why do so many singing teachers give out exercises with major scale arpeggios? Surely it would make more sense to vocalise over minor scales or blues scales since this is what most contemporary music is written using. Muscle memory is a bitch to overcome once it's set in.
  4. When I first started to be able to sing above G4 I couldn't help laughing. Years ago I was told I was a baritone and that I should stick to singing stuff like "Some Enchanted Evening" so breaking through that barrier was quite emotional for me. I am over it now though
  5. Agreed - really interesting and informative to hear the experiences of guys who actually sing for a living and how they deal with the stresses and strains of different material. Dan has a lot of talented contacts!
  6. Interestingly enough I have a powerful oo (boot) vowel. In recordings of the choir I'm in when we're called to sing an oo above C4 I can clearly hear my own voice even with 10+ other male singers. However my ah (bat) is weak. In a very simplistic way that chart kind of confirms that. The main issue is that I speak in the right middle section (boat/bert/boy) and that gives me a swallowed tone that I want to get away from. I actually practice speaking (in private of course ) mimicking more forward accents to break the habit when I'm singing!
  7. I have noticed that the most lead singers of the bands I like (that would be rock and metal) have quite large lower jaws and wide faces - think David Coverdale, Steven Tyler etc, . In contrast I have a smaller than average (probably) lower jaw and relatively narrow face. Will this have an impact on my tone? I think I have a quite a thin tone. I started singing to emulated my heroes and it would be gutting to think that I'm never going to achieve a decent rock voice because I just don't have the necessary physical attributes. Range is not an issue and I don't have a particularly loud voice but it's loud enough for what it needs to do.
  8. Bruce Dickinson is a small guy and Dio was described having the voice of a monster emerging from the body of Carla from Cheers. A lot of rock powerhouses are not particularly big guys - I read a theory that being shorter is actually an advantage for powerful high vocals because the muscles, sinews and tendons in the neck / laryngeal being in general smaller mean that they don't have to exert as much force to get the same result as a tall guy with proportionally longer neck. I don't think Pavarotti was tall either, stout maybe but not tall.
  9. Just to be clear I meant contemporary - I use open throat in more a general way ie not to constrict when moving up through the registers rather than specifically a genre like classical or bel canto(?) Here's the video - We learn so many things by using mimicry like art, playing musical instruments or even sport ... why would singing be any different? If I was Russian I might have a totally different vocal sound despite having the same physical vocal tract. I've had at least one singing teacher and one choir leader talk about this magic natural sound - shouldn't get so worked up about it but it's bugging me quite a lot lately I have seen that 43 voices video - he does nail some singers but others less so but it is really interesting as to what you can do with your voice. You'll never actually sound like your heroes unless you have the exact same physical dimensions of skull, cranial spaces etc. If Mark Martel is probably the best Mercury impersonator around. If he grew a mustache could actually pass for Freddie Mercury I reckon
  10. I recently watched a youtube vocal coach who claimed that if you sing with your "natural voice", correct pitch rhythm etc of course, then people will like your voice, even more so than when you attempt to alter your voice to fit into what you think is something that sounds good. Being that language and accents are artificial constructs, and your vocals are definitely coloured by the way that you pronounce vowels and consonants is this at all true? Personally I think it's nonsense - there are any number of British/English singers who sound nothing like their spoken voice and are massively successful. I think some people are lucky - their pronunciation and voice colours lend themselves to singing. In my own case I have found that I'm having to work very hard to alter some of my vowels and consonants to get the sound l like while at the same time trying to maintain a relaxed open throat. The way I speak has a definite negative impact on my singing voice. Funnily enough I actually like my voice best in the range of f#4 to c#5 (my absolute highest note) because I'm having to sing with minimal consonants and maximum vowels. It's in the area below that when my horrible speaking voice starts to emerge