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HiCu

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    HiCu got a reaction from Robert Lunte in Eddie Vedder Technique   
    Thanks Robert.  I guess what I'm trying to say with word natural talent is they find the property vocal configuration early on.  Then they just work on dev songs because the mechanics are already in place.  I have seen this over and over again with really natural singers I grew up with. 
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    HiCu reacted to MDEW in Eddie Vedder Technique   
    What is the difference between formal training and training yourself? Read a few interviews from these guys and you will find out that they either started out at a young age or Learned from other musicians and singers and worked on sounding good.
         The difference is in wanting to sound better and working at it.
    From an interview in guitar Player Magazine: Tommy Shaw 
    "GP: Were you copping licks off records and radio?
    Tommy: Right. It was more fun trying to figure out "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and "I Saw Her Standing There" than to take those lessons. By this time I knew my basic chords. There were some older guitarists on my side of town, and I got to know many of them. I would go and try just monkey-see monkey-do, which was always a lot easier. I was never a very good student until long after I got out of high school. It took me that long to realize the importance of having somebody who knows teach you something.
    GP: Was it your R&B background that gave you an appreciation for playing behind vocals?
    Tommy: When I was a little blue-eyed soul brother I learned how to do the scattin' stuff kind of like George Benson does, where you play and sing the same notes. I really got into that. It's a lot more than just cranking out riffs on the guitar because you're singing in unison, or in harmony, with your playing. It used to be a trademark of mine back in the old days."
     
    I would say singing in unison with a guitar riff is a pretty good workout wouldn't you? A nice way to train the voice?
    Jeff Scott Soto from Wikipedia 
    "Having a keyboard in the house growing up, he taught himself by ear how to play his favorite songs on the radio but it wasn't until middle school where (playing trumpet) he learned to read music. Using this new technical knowledge, he began fronting his first band at the age of 12."
    Playing trumpet you learn breath control. One of the fundamentals of structured lessons. So, He first taught himself....That does not mean he was born with it. That means he worked on it.
     
    Dio: Wiki
     "His family moved to Portsmouth from Cortland as part of his father's service in the U.S. Army during World War II[11] and they resided there for only a short time before returning to Cortland. Padavona listened to a great deal of opera while growing up, and was influenced vocally by American tenor Mario Lanza.[12] His first formal musical training began at age 5, learning to play the trumpet.[12] "     "Despite being known for his powerful singing voice, Padavona claimed to have never received any vocal training.[15] He instead attributed his singing ability to the use of breathing techniques he learned while playing trumpet.[16]
    In an interview from hammer magazine:
    "Was music in your blood?
    “There were no musicians in the family whatsoever, but due to Italian culture music was embedded in the town. I grew up listening to a lot of opera, which really affected my singing style.”
    So you have someone who is learning music and playing trumpet from the age of 5 and listening to Opera.    A natural born singer? Not really. Someone who was singing opera from the age of 5 and who learned breath control AND had formal MUSIC  training from that time on.  A childhood of conditioning to be a singer. Not natural born.
     
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    HiCu got a reaction from Robert Lunte in Eddie Vedder Technique   
    Some of the absolute best singers I have ever heard had no lessons (Russell Allen, Dio, Tommy Shaw, Mickey Thomas, Jeff Soto etc.) I have interviewed several of professional singers and they just had it naturally.  I will also add, some of the absolute worse singers I have ever heard had training, sometimes for years and they still sound horrendous.  I believe you need to he born with something to work with.  If you sound like shit from the start, you probably will never be a good singer.  At least that's my take on things.
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    HiCu reacted to analog in Grammy Winner Ken Tamplin Here. Bel Canto IS the only Technique   
    Well I had never heard of Ken before today...the dude can frickin' WAIL!

    I gotta say, my favorite "perk" of this forum is the variety and open mindedness of the people here. I would assume we are all trying to "expand" ourselves...whether we are pushing product or not.

    On a side note, while looking at Ken's videos, I thought of VIDEOHERE and his desire to nail down that Lou Gramm sound. Think this guy has a handle on that...in a very healthy way("Fooled Around and Fell in Love cover.) NOTHIN' wimpy about those sounds(to me.)
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