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  1. I use a digital recorder that records the effects in real time while recording. With this recorder I cannot add effects after the track is laid down other than a master effect which is applied to all tracks. I usually check for decent sounding preset for my microphone before recording and use headphones. My questions are.....How much does this effect the initial sound being produced by you the singer. And can it interfere with overall voice production? An example would be....Does too much Bass in the EQ lead to a higher larynx to compensate for the sound and vice versa, too much treble lead to other compensations. ect...
  2. I find it funny how I might be working on a piece with my teacher, and struggling with a part that only goes up to D4, and then I switch genres and I'm happily hitting G4 without difficulty. I almost want to classify things as 'rock high' vs. 'classical high' or 'Broadway high'. I had a piece of music that was killing me that centered around C#4 and D4 that kept going back into my throat, and I had to stop after a few minutes. But then I'm singing Karn Evil 9 by ELP, which is basically 100 G#4's and A4's in a row...and it's not a problem. Does anyone else find this to be the case? What is it about certain things that make them harder than others?
  3. I notice when I have a cold or some other respiratory ailment, my voice can become very deep . I think as far as range is concerned I am around a tenor . I can go as low as 2 Cs below middle C but there isn't much behind it . Is there any way I could expand my range downward so that I can access bass notes without being sick? Thanks. Rick G.
  4. As I've mentioned in other posts, I've been taking lessons for a few months with an opera/musical theater singer, and I've played a whole lot of different singers I enjoy for her to hear her opinion, and I find it interesting to hear the impressions of someone from a different world and different sensibilities. I thought I'd compile all the ones I remember into a collection because I was also curious to hear reactions: Chris Cornell: Disliked. "He's just screaming in the one part. And his high notes are very thin, but he puts all the scream and effect on it. If you heard it without that stuff it would just be a very weak sound." Bruce Dickinson(Iron Maiden): Disliked. "Sound is thin, poor technique on higher notes, badly produced vibrato." Dio: Unimpressed. "Again, just a thin tenor putting some effect on his voice." Warrel Dane(Nevermore): Liked. "Good control. He's making a choice on every note." Eric Adams(Manowar): "One of the best sounds of all the singers you've played for me. But still a thinner tenor voice." Mike Patton: Liked. "Nice voice, clearly knows how to sing. But I wish I could hear his natural sound more instead of all this 'put on' stuff he does." Tarja Turunen and Marco Hietala(Nightwish): "You can hear both these people know how to sing correctly, they're just doing some weird things because that's the style I guess. Forcing the straight tones is making her sound flat, and she knows that, but she still does it." Devin Townsend: "If I were his ENT doctor, I'd love him, because of all the money I'd make form all the damage he's doing. He has to be on steroids to be doing what he does consistently. Either that or he's just a freak." Eric Clayton (Savior Machine): "Completely different from the other stuff you've shown me. Sounds like a regular baritone stage voice." Daniel Heiman (Lost Horizon): "Not bad. He's doing some of that weird stuff again, but he sounds good otherwise." Alissa White-Gluz (Arch Enemy): "Oh God, that's a woman!? I can't listen, it's too painful, she's ripping her vocal chords to shreds." Phil Anselmo (Pantera): "I guess it's...kind of like singing." Tim "Ripper" Owens (Judas Priest, Iced earth): "His voice will probably last a bit longer because he knows what he's doing and being very controlled about it." Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth): "He's got a nice voice." Mikael Akerfeldt growling: "There's no way he's producing that sound naturally. Either that or he's doing it very quietly and it's made to sound much bigger."
  5. I'm a metal/progressive rock/classical guy taking lessons with a classical opera singer. It's always an interesting thing bringing her vocals to listen to. Some get better reviews than others, but the most common thing I hear from her is that the vast majority of vocalists are wrong for my voice, because they're just too high and light, and I have a bigger voice with a darker color. I kinda knew that was true of someone like James LaBrie, but Bruce Dickinson, Eric Adams, Dio, etc. I wouldn't have called them smaller voices, or the highest, or the thinnest, but to her they are. I one guy she thought was a bit closer match for my voice was Tim 'Ripper' Owens, or maybe that I could get get away with singing stuff from baritone-y guys like Eric Clayton of Savior Machine, who has a cool voice but it's usually a different thing. To her, a voice like Geddy Lee is just an exceptionally odd VERY light and high male voice, almost off the spectrum, and 90% of the rock singers out there are light, thin tenors. She asks if I have some other things to bring her that aren't like that, but it seems in rock, almost everyone has that sound, and with the exception of a few baritones here and there. The implication - the world of rock and pop is just filled to the brim with light tenors wherever you look these days. Even on Broadway these days this is all the rage: (Also interesting my teacher thought the composer should be shot for making the singer do that B5 at the end in that style, because it's certain to cause damage over time, and this singer did indeed have to take a break because of voice trouble I think). I mean, if you listen to something like this: ...this kind of voice can't help but sound a bit old fashioned. But really, it's just a natural male voice, singing as it would naturally sound. But there's practically no place for that voice in pop or rock, it seems. I suppose the question is, to what extent are we talking about just a lot of thin tenors, and to what extent are we talking about singers who might be baritones or low tenors, but who thinning their sound out, because that's the style?
  6. TLDR: Long story short... what songs would you suggest for a bass which, preferably, doesn't go above E4? (I'm talking about the songs though, I go above E4. I can go up to F#4, G4 sometimes, but I want some rest and actually sing really proficiently in the lessons, not upper belt all the damn time where I strain and push a little cause of the soft warm ups she teaches which doesn't loosen up my voice :/. Am I wrong??? is the teacher right??? I'm a bass and shouldn't be singing in a girl's key??? What do you think about this?? So I took private lessons before with a teacher for a couple months, have stopped taking them for a month or so now, and now I found a new teacher. It's a group lesson with my relatives and some others. I'm the only guy in there. So anyways, she makes me sing in a "guy's key", and whenever I sing in a girl's key, she says it's "not my key" and doesn't want me singing in it. And also, I told her that I can't hit that note, this (guy's) key is too high for me. And she insists that I can. Like no, I've went over the range in that SONG, and my range with my old coach, and I go over my range every single day when I practice. It's either IN my range, or NOT. She picks songs for me without even knowing my own range or that song's. Not only that, but the warm ups we do aren't even for belting. So while the girls sing in their lovely mid range, I UPPER BELT my butt through the song without proper warm up, while the original singer, who sounds either a baritone or tenor, seems to be having a great time. I once sang a girl's song... okay... with some really nice C5 and D5, and C#5 and Eb5 belts. But I sang it an octave lower, and she told me to sing a guy's song next time. What does she think a C#4 and Eb4 is for me? it makes no sense. C#4 is already a high note for me, (my old coach told me about the passagio, I checked mine out and it's around C4, sometimes a note higher) and she doesn't realize that and doesn't want me singing in a girl's key. Fyi, the girls learning are untrained. Vocalizing, the girls start switching to head voice on around C5, I switch to head voice on around C4. Going down? They can barely sing an F3, my lower register is a little better, and vocalized down to D2, and a pushed C2 (I don't train my lower register much). So overall, those FEMALES are pretty much inside my range, y'know what I'm saying? D2-F#4 vs F3-C5, except it's an octave lower, their voices are pretty untrained so their range is much smaller. But if they were more trained, theirs will be similar to mine but an octave higher??? So I'm STILL not seeing why I shouldn't be singing in a girl's key. Passagio is similar and so is lower register, only an octave lower. Another note: There was this girl song that I sang along with, and they told me that it was too low for me. BUT THEN, I SAID, IT'S ALSO LOW FOR THIS GIRL, AND THEY (teacher, and aunt who was taking them with me) SAID BACK THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HIGH FOR HER??? I CAME HOME AND CHECKED WITH A PIANO AND IT WAS AN F3. Tf??? And I know who the singer is, she's a flippin soprano, and they're telling me the 3rd octave is high for her? along with C#5 and Eb5 belts? crazy. Maybe I should've let them try that low note :/. I am upset. I think I'll end the ranting here :/. It may unpleasing to see someone ranting
  7. Hello everybody! So my last thread I asked for help on mixed/ middle register. I have been working on it for a little while now but I still feel like I'm shouting and using too much air on belting high notes. It's as if I'm trying to sing it rather than just letting the sound out. Here is a comparison: and me lol: Any tips or advice is appreciated. Don't know if I'm shouting because I can't get that cord closure properly in my higher registers or if it's a bunch of different things. Woke up a little hoarse today too after singing for around 2-3 hours heavily. this is so annoying Thank you ! Love this forum for all the help I get
  8. Ruth Alexis Jack

    Have I damaged my voice?

    Hey guys, I'm new to the site. I am really worried about my vocal health. I have just graduated uni after years of specialising in vocals and two months ago I began my first proper singing contract in a different country. Because of the change in climate I got ill and ended up with laryngitis. Unfortunately I still had to sing and do shows with laryngitis, however, I had to almost scream to get a sound out. My voice kept getting worse and the laryngitis developed into pharyngitis and guess what... I still had to sing every night. No voice rest for me It has now been two months and although I do proper warm ups before my shows, afterwards my voice is gone because of the amount of strain I am putting on it. I still have to shout to get the notes out and I cannot sing effortlessly like I used to. I'm getting so fed up of it. I live with other singers and I feel unworthy to join in with their songs because my voice sounds so bad compared to what it used to be like. The other singers in my company must think I'm talentless. I just want my voice back. I cannot do runs clearly; it sounds like I am sliding around the notes and my head voice is completely non existent. I know now I should see a voice therapist but finding an English speaking one may be difficult out here. Does anyone have any advice on remedies or exercises that will help me get my voice back? Almost importantly, do you think I have permanently damaged my voice?
  9. this is kinda hard to explain properly, ill try my best. so when i try to sing, there is hundreds upon hundreds of different type of sounds that i can apply to my voice, for instance, i can make my voice sound compressed, nasally ect... there is many more different sounds i can do but i simply do not even know how to discribe them, and sadly, none of them sound good at all, some sound better then others, but they are all still border line horrible. when trying to apply changes to the sound of my voice, i feel like i am constricting my vocal range in some way, i feel a tension of some sort in my throat, and this tension prevents my voice from reaching the desired key/pitch i aim for. should i not try to change the sound of my voice when singing? should i just use my natural speaking voice to sing while allowing my voice to sound how ever it naturally sounds? my voice is quite deep naturally and doesnt sound right when trying to sing with my naturall speaking voice. is what i am saying makes sense to anyone? another thing: so lets say i somehow manage to sing on key/pitch perfectly, now, does this mean that my voice will be pleasant to listen to? is key/pitch what makes a singers voice sound good/bad? could i sing on pitch/key perfectly, but still have my voice sounding horrible due to the overall sound of my voice? one last thing XD: it seems that i can sing country songs 100x better then the songs i prefer to sing. i actually caught myself off guard when singing a country song just for testing purposes, i found out how to allow my mic play through my headphones with a track playing in the back ground, with this, i can hear myself in real time and make adjustments to my voice if needed. insanely enough, when i sing a country song, i can let my voice sing in my natural speaking voice kinda, like, i feel no tension in my throat at all and my voice doesnt even sound like im the one singing it, its hard to explain, it just sounds great compared to other types of songs i sing. only bad thing is that i hate country music with a passion, if i had to choose between singing country good or not singing at all, then i choose to sing nothing at all lol. am i doomed to only sing country?
  10. LaraScoff

    Can't sing high notes

    I am an amateur singer with no training whatsoever. I'm a female in my early 30s. I don't smoke or drink so my voice should be relatively healthy. I seem to sing male songs much more easily than female songs. Also, I can sing in tune if I am singing along the singer. By myself I go out of pitch lol. Whenever high notes come up in songs I either go very flat or sing them with what I think is either falsetto o head voice and that comes out quite easy for me to do. I can't sing them in my chest voice because my voice ends up cracking and just sounds horrible or I scream them out if I can go that high. Is it a matter of technique or is it really lack of vocal range? Thanks in advance.
  11. Throughout the last 4 years, since I started singing until now, although I gained technique (went from eardrum destroyer to mediocre/acceptable), my high register is fading away. What I did during this time was to smoke a lot (quitting now due to lung infections) and to focus on mid-register and lower register songs. Those songs were easier for me because I have to make little effort to reach the notes (from D2 to A3 is the area where my voice sounds better). When I have a higher song to sing, I lower the key to fit around D2-A3 for it to sound acceptable. In the past, I could sing easy cool F4's, although a little airy. Now, every note past around A3 (which is my "primo passaggio", D4 beind the second) sounds either heady, airy, thin, or unpleasant. Sure I can sing some 4th octave notes today, but they are limited and they use to suck. The main question is, is there a way to help recover some of the range that I lost due to heavy smoking and/or lack of practice, and then belt anything past A3 with some real chest resonance?
  12. I thought I would have a go at another Elton John song. Let me know what you think.
  13. Clericsgonewild

    Singing Double Vision by Foreigner

    Just wondering if there's anything I can do to improve my performance of this song, thanks in advance!
  14. Dear all, It has been a while that I have visited this forum. I have been very busy with my studies—having completed my BA in Musicology and currently finalising my MA in Applied Musicology. I did keep on working on my singing, however. Yesterday, “The Music of the Night,” a song that I auditioned with at the Conservatory of Rotterdam over a decade ago and that I had used for my singing lessons with many different teachers, was one I had never actually performed—until now! Indeed, there appears to be balancing issues with volume between me and the piano. On the other hand, I asked several attendees whether they felt there were problems with it, but they all did not notice them live. While I do think we could work on balancing our instruments, I believe the recording is augmenting the issue quite a bit. I am really satisfied with the performance—especially my acting abilities, intonation, enunciation, and stage presence. I could be more confident with the fermata notes just doing them as long as I want, rather than thinking I might do them too long (I think the “soul”-note [2:32] is great, the “be”-note [3:44] is just about right, the ”night”-note [5:20] is executed pretty well, but could easily be five seconds longer). I could also definitely stabilise and pronounce my “ring” more. Manolito Mystiq
  15. Another great added to the Angel Band. R.I.P. Gregg you helped us through some troubled times.
  16. I'm curious if I am doing this right... I'm not even sure how to explain it. Here is a guy teaching it .. it's in korean but he's basically saying try to "pull" the sound out from the chest instead of having the sound fly out through ur mouth. Can someone explain to me in what way is this taught normally? Is this just the feel of "open throat?" or "support"? AND if this is how it should feel then how do I get that "mask" placement without losing that DEEP breath support? This way helped me develop my mix but I'm curious if this method is correct and is just another way of teaching the same thing? example done by a professional performance. (The sound literally sounds like a really low soft mix voice in the intro and when belting it sounds like the vibrato is so free and resonating really low. Is this how proper singing should be done? I am just wondering on how I should properly train and do warmups/workouts..
  17. Kpoppin

    Modes and Kpop

    Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to singing and don't sing very well, but I came across some of Robert's videos on YouTube and it inspired me, I might purchase the four pillars. I have a question about modes and increasing range. I'm a fan of Kpop and aspire to sing similarly (in a ballad style). Here's a YouTube video as an example and I'd like to know what he's doing, Kpop ballad singers have a youthful, sweet light sound, is it because they're tenors? Or just the way they're singing? I think I'm a baritone and I can make my voice lighter but it doesn't really sound the same. Also at 4:23 onward he hits an A or b4 and I wonder whether that's in chest register or head with twang? Male Kpop singers always hit A4-c5 in the climax of their ballads and I'm unable to take my chest beyond an F4(that's a strain). I'm not sure what y'all think about mixed voice thanks!
  18. MDEW

    Journey Practice

    It has been a while since I have posted anything. If you have any comment good or bad let me know. Thanks.
  19. aravindmadis

    Young Bruce Vs Old Bruce

    I present to you two versions of the same song 35 years apart. Bruce is one of my idols. It is clear that he has lost the weight in the higher range in the latter video. But he seems to be singing with a very good technique mind you. And not bad for an old man recovering from cancer. One thing about his technique I notice is how much he opens his mouth while singing(great lesson there) Which goes to show what a monster singer Bruce was in his pomp. Can somebody point out what Bruce technically doing wrong in the latter video. Very curious to know what folks think..
  20. Hello, I'm a true bass (B1-C4). Is it possible for me to climb up to C5? If so, then how many years would it take? Alot of the songs i want to sing are from C4-C5 so i have to sing an octave lower or strain my throat. Thanks
  21. Hi Folks, It has been a very long time since I posted. I have made some jumps in my technical skills and so thought I should post a song again. This actually I did about 2.5 years ago. Unfortunately I don't have the older recording to do a Before-After comparison. but the old version was around the time when I started to learn to bridge but had still not learnt how to smoothly connect to the chest voice. I had lot of issues then with nasality and "Quacky" sound. I think since then I have addressed some of them. One thing that I would like to share in my experience is how important it is for us singers to keep pushing the boundaries every single time. When you become better in singing, it reflects not only in your ability to do tough songs at an acceptable level, but it really improves the way you can sing "simpler" songs..
  22. PianoandGuitarguy

    The truth about 'lifting'?

    I'm a slightly older guy and musician who just started voice lessons for the first time. A big thing my voice teacher is having me do is work on 'lifting' as she calls it. And this doesn't mean lifting the soft palate, which I THINK is a different thing. It involves lifting the cheekbones is a way that's not quite a smile, but somehow allows you to hit high notes with much more ease. Most of the time it's kind of "am I doing it right, I have no idea", but maybe 3 times so far over the weeks I somehow got it, and holy shit I had tenor high c without feeling like I might burst a blood vessel...but then I lost it again. So, certainly seems to work, but I did a search and found a lot of things disparaging lifting the soft palate, which might be related, and other things disparaging the 'smile technique'. So I was curious what the consensus was here on it.
  23. When I slide, or glissando up to a note, I can hit higher notes, with more on them, than I can just hitting the note alone. What I assumed I had discovered by doing this was 'mixed voice', but I don't know. As someone with a fairly normal male voice range, if I'm starting on g4 and sliding up to g5, heavy metal singer-style, am I still in chest voice, or is that impossible? Or was I right and that's some kind of mixed voice thing?
  24. Hogne Kirkebø

    Feedback on singing

    Hi everyone. Here is two songs of me singing. One pop classical and one classical. I haven't done any singing in many years and I got called by my former vocal coach if I could step in on short notice and we had two 1,5 rehearsals and I did these two songs. My range singing classical is usually around E2 to C5 Any feedback is appreciated. One teacher said I'm actually a tenor and that I am doing something unnatural with my voice. One said I'm a lyrical baritone One said I'm a low baritone And one said I can develop to a bass baritone. Links: