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  1. Hi guys, I have been following many methods and Rob was one of the first guys that got my attention on the internet so I decided to come over here and share my first 2 videos on youtube. I started practicing 3 years ago and I was unable to imagine that I would one day share my voice with public so I practiced in car or forest or in an empty buildings . But I thought that the time has come to get my ass to the studio and share the partial success I got from my practice. I know it is a long road still and I am not gonna stop now - I will continue practicing everyday to get my voice to the top level. So here are my two precious things
  2. Hey guys. So I've been singing for some years now. I'm classicaly trained, theoretically a tenor, but I could never manage to understand and make the adjustments to go higher than F4 without breaking into M2 or straining a lot. Last year I started reading a lot about voice physiology and learning contemporary singing technique. Now I can go sometimes even up to G5 (not a pretty singable tone yet, but it's there). From Bb4 up I can somehow manage a lighter sound that doesn't sound like M2, but between E4 and A4 I can only do full-on belting or something lighter but with a lot of constriction (arytenoids I guess). I'm trying to achieve a lighter and freer M1 (mixed?) sound in that range, and so I've been reading and watching many YouTube videos on that, but I'm very confused with the way scientists and vocal coaches differently name the registers and stuff, so it's being hard to clearly understand what they mean and choose a way to approach the matter. I have to say that I personally think the names Chest, Head and Mixed Voice are terrible and extremely misleading, and they did nothing but prevent me from moving forward. Understanding the vibratory mechanisms and the filter/resonance adjustments is what really is helping me evolve. And although I understand a lot of people don't benefit from scientific explanations, it's really works for me. From what I understand, SCIENTIFICALLY mixed voice can be either: 1. M1 with less vocalis contraction and more nasal airflow/rhinopharyngeal resonance, as used by man and women in contemporary music and by men in high notes in classical. 2. M2 with more rhinopharyngeal resonance and twang in the higher range in contemporary singing. 3. M2 with more rhinopharyngeal resonance in the female first passaggio in classical. And head voice can refer to: 1. any sound in M2 2. only M2 with cartilaginous adduction Now I'm really confused with how vocal coaches use the terms. For me, the sound of what many demonstrate as Head voice - specially those who don't count falsetto as Head voice - is not M2 at all, but rather my first description of Mixed voice (less compressed M1 with rhinopharyngeal resonance). Which makes me think, when they say head voice they are referring mainly to head resonance (rhinopharynx) and not to the vibratory mechanism M2. So although many exercises for bridging/mixing/blending DO go from M1 to M2, and this is of course also used in actual singing, the "bridging" that happens most of the time in the mid-high range is simply the adjustments to go from M1 with oral resonance to M1 with nasal resonance, to allow the laryngeal tilt, less compression and lower subglottal pressure without breaking into M2. I'm still beginning in the science stuff, does anyone with more knowledge in that area agrees, disagrees or have any other thoughts on the subject and on how I could approach a softer sound between E4 and A4?
  3. I decided to run a little experiment and (for the first time in my life) analyze exactly what notes comprise the M1, M2, and what I'll call M3 regions of my vocal track. Just for fun, and to share with some of my fellow voice geeks here. Even though I received effective vocal coaching, it was a long time ago when popular vocal teachers did not bother explaining or analyzing anything unless you were willing to sit there and pay $80/hr. to chat (never happened for me). As a result, I never paid too much attention to notes and my "range." I would always reference songs my vocal hero's were singing, and I could tell my M2 notes were getting beefier from the vocal instruction / training. It is interesting to note that, after so many years of singing without strain in M2, I actually forgot how to pull chest voice. I discovered this one day when someone asked me to explain to them how I was able to sing "tenor notes" when they knew I was a baritone. I started to explain the difference between M1 & M2, I wanted to sing an example of straining to sing a high C. We all had a laugh as I struggled to remember how to pull M1 that high without singing in M2. So, lately I've been contemplating expanding my range a tad higher than I've been satisfied with for so many years. The pdf illustrates what I found out about my "instrument." I thought it was interesting to see how much more agile my M2 is than my M1! The overlaps are also interesting for me to see correlated with the notes. I'd like to start training those weaker M2 notes. I'd like to see if I can change the pink D#5, and A5, to red! Only two notes yet, I know it will take a lot of effort, those notes are not easy to make beefy. MY VOCAL TRACK ILLUSTRATED.pdf
  4. Hello everybody! So my last thread I asked for help on mixed/ middle register. I have been working on it for a little while now but I still feel like I'm shouting and using too much air on belting high notes. It's as if I'm trying to sing it rather than just letting the sound out. Here is a comparison: and me lol: Any tips or advice is appreciated. Don't know if I'm shouting because I can't get that cord closure properly in my higher registers or if it's a bunch of different things. Woke up a little hoarse today too after singing for around 2-3 hours heavily. this is so annoying Thank you ! Love this forum for all the help I get
  5. I was thinking of this and I'd love to hear your opinions, especially from the voice teachers. Let's say a singer tried an experiment. He committed to practicing every day where he has to run the voice up his range and he had to avoid any kind of bridging, no letting go into falsetto, no transitioning...nothing... just had to run the full voice up all through just sheer will and determination. So any scale, any siren any voice exercise had to be done in full voice. No use of any heady placement, just pull up chest higher and higher..... I wonder,,,,,Would the voice eventually find it's way all the up the range? Would you and your voice figure out the way up through the "passaggio" and above? Would the development in this way open up the voice and allow it to release? I mean it's not like anyone's thinking of this or trying it, but I just wonder what the voice might end up doing in terms of capability and development. We always teach and read how the chest voice ends and now you have to nowhere to go......how you get stuck....or how you need to transition....... Historically speaking, did the teachers or singers of years gone by ever explore this? So let's say you just chest pulled for a few months, where would the voice end up? Would it be damaged? Would it be unbalanced? Who's to say...... (And yes.....I'm a little crazy I guess..lol)
  6. Hi guys, my range is not that great, I can sing in head voice only up to E5 before I cannot get higher. I can use chest range up to F4. The interesting thing to me is that I can sing the same note in head voice and chest voice at multiple pitches below F4. I read in my studies that Manuel Garcia did this with his student, but in my CVT book it says it is dangerous to use falsetto below C5. I am sorry if this is a dumb question but is there any benefit to singing the same note in m1 and then m2 or is this unhealthy for the voice? How is this beneficial or harmful for male voice training? After doing this back and forth for a couple of minutes my voice feels awkward and confused.
  7. Check out my new cover guys, was a lot of fun to make!  It's got some of those damned F4s in it.. they were tough but I pulled them off decent enough.    http://picosong.com/VUVi/   edit: I know there are some problems with this cover, it's definitely not to my potential.  I did both the tracks on first take and just rolled with it because it was damn fun.  Feel free to call out any issues you might be able to help with though.  I'm already aware of where all the pitch problems are though.     edited with better version of cover
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