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  1. SpinningDaveMachine

    Gillan Sabbath effects advice

    Hi gang, I've recently joined a Black Sabbath tribute band that specialize in the Dio albums with a few Gillan tracks thrown in. I'd really like to have a stomp box I can use to recreate the live effects sound Ian Gillan has on the live in Reading, which can be heard on the bonus edition version of Born Again. Id imagine a similar pedal would be useful for some ozzy as well. I've previously used TC Helicon stomp pedals and found them ok, if a bit temperamental, with a tendency to distort on higher pitches. Happy to consider a different manufacturer etc. Any suggestions? Cheers!
  2. Lately, I've been pondering this metaphor in an effort to effectively convey some ideas about singing to folks who have had little exposure to good singing pedagogy yet, comprehend guitar amplification and effects. I'd appreciate any input on this, how it hits you, is it effective, improvements, any debate or opinions are welcomed. I often think of the physical vocal modes as similar to the knobs on a guitar amplifier. . . . . . and the acoustic vocal modes & effects as functioning like the e.q. and effects pedals.
  3. Hello Fellow TMVW members! Humbling though it may be, I thought I would share a track I'm working on, (Beatles - In My Life) and the vocal "sculpting" process I go through in an effort to record my best performance. (I'd never share unfinished tracks except to friends and in this forum . . . plain vanity) I've had a lot of experience analyzing my vocals for recordings, I never quite knew how to articulate the process I was engaging in nearly as well as after having gone through The Four Pillars of Singing, learning the "talk track" I've heard Robert Lunte utilize across many hours of lecture videos! Once one is familiar enough with these "mechanisms" for mending, strengthening, or otherwise fine tuning a vocal line, the mystery about what to do goes away! Rob's techniques are structured in a simple, yet meticulous sequence that really does create the feeling of having a vocal sculpting tool box! I'm posting this both as a subject of interest to others who may be starting out with this type of challenge, and as a means of accountability for me to complete the process, which has been brutal for me due to inexperience with the recording software. It's good for me though, as I intend to record several old hit favorite song interpretations in the coming months. I'll post my final "sculpture" here for this track when I finally complete it. "Work to be done" on this vocal performance is: Pitchy lyrics / appaggio drop out, vowel mods for best resonance, better phrasing, embouchure brightening, slight lightening of mass throughout, . . . . I'm sure there's more, also, rhythm guitar mistakes, and guitar solo is not quite tight yet, not happy with the effects on my voice yet either. I'm contemplating leaving the last "in my life" line unresolved like it is now. I was trying to sing that last half of the last line and had to quit recording due to a leaf blower. I think i'll like it that way, maybe with a high harmony over the top. Lastly, I may end up using a different mic than I did for this take. One thing that clearly gets hammered home in this process is that performing live is a far more forgiving environment than being under the microscope of a recording. Peace, k
  4. Hi guys! New to the forum but I'm really happy to be here. I've been getting pretty discouraged lately about my endeavor to be a good singer and was looking for some honest discussion on the thoughts that keep flooding me when I practice. Mind the context that I have a decent amount of musical experience as a multi-instrumentalist of 5 years and as a songwriter/digital composer. Mainly I feel like after the first few months of practicing a minimum of 6 hours a week, doing my vocal exercises each day and practicing some repertoire, also meeting once a week with my voice teacher/coach who gives me tips on how to continue to practice good technique, that this has given me some control over my voice, I don't feel powerless to hit the notes now and stuff. The issue lies in this, the tone of my voice still sounds thin and unpleasant almost always, even in full voice in the comfortable part of my range, it just sounds harsh and ugly sounding. Not even a stylistic choice I wouldn't think, it is just "meh". I asked my voice coach and she said that its a long process to balance out the voice and that its much like working out, you have to practice consistently for a long long time for it to really change drastically and achieve the look/feel you want. My question to you guys is this: Is this an attainable goal to not just be a "meh" singer but to be a good or even great singer? Is my consistent practice and vocal health practices all I need to be doing or is there something I am missing? Is it actually just a matter of time and I am just being impatient?
  5. Hello all, I used to use a crappy USB Art M-one condenser mic but after doing much research have upgraded to a Scarlett 2i2 combined with an MXL V67G. Problem I recorded myself and to be honest, while the recording is clean and clear (at least compared to my crappy USB condenser mic), it sounds so different from when I sing in person. This recording lacks power, and it just has this really dampened feeling, and sounds so boring compared to myself singing in person (friends who I show this to agree also). I'm wondering if this can be fixed just through software like EQ-ing and compressing, reverb etc, or do I need a better mic? If I do, I would preferably like to spend below $100. Recording Info The recording I have below is just noise reduction and normalize, no compression, reverb, equalizer nothing. I have tried some basic compression & reverb on another recording and while it improves the output (have not uploaded this MP3 yet), still doesn't sound the same as in person. Am I just a newb at EQ-ing? Or is this a microphone limitation? Recording below EDIT: If this is the wrong forum, mods please move to correct one
  6. After my last cover being an older R&B style, I thought I would go for a heavier rock this time. At the suggestion of friends, I chose Devy Metal. I'm very comfortable with the style normally, but I'm definitely not used to using so much grit. I usually only use grit as an occasional effect. Also, singing the F4 and G4 with a solid grit can be extremely difficult. Up to E4, no problem. A4 and above, no problem. F and G, ugh. The moment you do it wrong once, it's extremely easy to start pushing and grinding. With my students and friends, that range in grit has it's own name, "F'n G." You can get used to it with practice, but it takes time - and I didn't practice this song for very long. I tried to do a second take of the whole song, and immediately hit my throat when doing grit. Everything went downhill from there. So, what you see in this video is another single take with two camera angles. I did overdub two small parts, but only because I said a couple of words wrong since, apparently, I didn't fully know the lyrics yet. The other guy in the video, Charlie Munro, I found at random when trying to find an instrumental for the song. The only instrumental I found, he had done all the music for and uploaded to SoundCloud. I asked him if I could use it, and the next thing I know, we're doing a video together. Cool guy, great studio engineer and guitarist. All in all, it was a lot of fun, and a cool challenge to take on. I'm working with Robert on a couple of online courses specifically for grit and screaming, so I figured, "why not go all out?" I'm happy to answer any questions you might have about grit and screaming.
  7. Hello everyone im after some advise please, im a lead singer in covers band(we do everything from 60's to modern music) and im looking for a pedal to provide me with reverb, delay effects etc. i have narrowed my selection down to 3 and was wondering what you thought would be my best choice my options are: TC Helicon Mic Mechanic 2, Boss ve-1 or TC Helicon Voiceplay live. i know the voiceplay is slightly more expensive but if it will be worth it i will stretch to it. I just sing lead and dont play any instrument thanks in advance
  8. Yo TMVW People, Pals, and fellow lovers of sangin'! If you watch this video (starting after 5:05) past the alien stuff, the author explains some impressive voice technology advances made by Google. It's interesting, ... and I thought it was funny that the first thing I think of is how now ( soon ), any person who can mimic the singing mannerisms (a good impression of their articulation) of a famous singer, and has decent rhythm (those are "some" of the most basic skills), could turn on the effect and now, out of the speakers comes the Artist of their choice (on a drop down menu no doubt ) Dio, Mercury, Jackson, Elvis, take your pick! Actually having vocal cords that sound like the artist no longer required to book a tribute band gig! feels like a step beyond pitch correction to be sure. Just fun with toys to me however, I know there are purists who might find this a disgusting perpetuation of a digital cancer on musicianship. anyway, just a crazy funny thought I had after watching the video.
  9. Jaime Vendera. This guy is a pro singer and a vocal coach and this is the guy who keeps appearing on TV breaking a glass with his voice. And he writes books as well and one of his books is called "Raise Your Voice", and apparently it tells you how to do it. What a shame he is to busy making too much money from the TV to bother answering emails inquiring about his lessons for $150/ hr.
  10. Deleteduser

    Echo on the performance

    hi there i bought a microphone for singing practices, and i just realized adding some echo makes my voice blend to the music that i am practicing ,i was curious,is it normal to add echo while singing practices ? or not? in shows like the voice do they add echo while singers performing as a competition ?
  11. So I've been singing for several years now and I've a pretty okay grip on how to use different techniques when I need to. I'm a male to give this some context and I wouldn't say I have a high voice. If anything, my voice is low, not deep but low. I know this because whenever I sing with others, I can always hear a huge difference between our voices. A few weeks ago, we recorder a song in school with over 16 voices in a room, I was on the furthest end from the recorder but yet my voice was still stood out because it was lower that everyone else's. Again, my voice isn't deep and on a good practise day, I can hit high notes for example the chorus of I Have Nothing and if I push hard enough, I can sing Let It Go up till the final belt. Yet, I find myself in an impossible position to sing songs from mostly male singers. It's not that the notes are too low, but because it's too high ( ? ) What I mean by this is take an Ed Sheeran song for example, I might start off pretty okay but immediately when the chorus hits, I can't seem to find the right key and when I do, I have to nearly screech to hit the notes. Another example is Say You Won't Let Go by James Arthur, I sing the verses perfectly well, but when it enters the prechorus, I can feel my veins in my neck squeezing so hard just to hit the note. This might be a bad comparison because it is a pretty hard song to sing. Or even Luke Bryan or Andy Grammer, both these singers are one of my favourite male singers but it pains me because I can't even sing 1 of their songs. When I listen to their songs, they don't even particularly start singing high notes but for some weird reason I can't find the right key to it. I always end up singing lower than the original and strain my voice real hard to the point where it doesn't even sound good. I don't really know if there's some key that I'm not hearing or something but it baffles me that I can choose to sing Ariana Grande but can't sing Blake Shelton because it's too high. I would really love some insight into this problem as it makes me really hard to harmonize with in groups and I would really like to be able to sing with other guys instead. Another thing to add is that I don't have a bright voice, I might be able to sing Let It Go or Defying Gravity on key but those would never be my performing choices as I only use them as comparisons and range practise. My most comfortable and natural tone sits on a more depressing ( ? ) tone. What I mean by that is that I don't sound cheery or about to bust out singing Broadway. Perhaps this might be a reason to why I can't seem to sing some of the " male " songs because I can't mimic the same tone that some of them tend to have.
  12. Hello, we're a small team from the Netherlands and in the last few months we've been working hard on the development of the Wiggle Kit. We thought it might interest some of you. What is it The Wiggle Kit is a new handheld MIDI instrument and app to add and control vocal effects to your voice. In the app for your phone you can select the vocal effects (reverb, echo, delay etc.) and with the instrument that works with movement detection (up, down, left, right and twisting) you control the intensity of each vocal effect. Of course you can link the Wiggle to other apps as well, as it supports MIDI over bluetooth. Where you can help We're curious to hear what you think about the idea and if this is something you would use in your music making workflow. If you like to get some more information and see some videos of it action, visit our kickstarter page Best, Team OWOW
  13. thematrixiam

    Getting back into it.

    Hi all. I bought The four pillars program way back in 2014... Since then I really haven't practiced it, largely because I haven't had time. I still have yet to use the online lessons I purchased with Robert when I bought it. (been holding out until I had more time and some basic practice in). I did do a stint of singing lessons with a one on one trainer at Long and Mcquade here in Alberta. I learnt some things. But largely, I learnt that I too can just play the lessons she was playing from her phone and sing downloaded songs from itunes. It is much cheaper to just do it on my own. I think part of the problem was that she seemed to largely be "phoning it in" (not really trying hard at her job). I already owned the singing course she was using, and she didn't really offer me much than be an extra ear. It was beneficial to have the steady schedule though. I am trying to get back into it (singing). I have an older (I am assuming) edition of 4pillars. Just curious where people recommend starting off? Also, I am open to suggestions for songs/singers for me to practice with. I prefer songs that - hmm, how to put this - actually involve singing. Being a male, a male singer would be better. But I do tend to sing along to female vocals, largely because they tend to hold notes more and make it sound more like singing, and less like talking with tone. My personal preference is Marianas Trench. For example Desperate Measures I enjoy singing similar to Josh Ramsey, Justin Timberlake, Jacob Hoggard, etc. Any recommendations? As a side note... I find that Josh tends to sing right at my bridge. I have to constantly flip into falsetto, while he clearly sings in his (head?) voice without kicking into falsetto much. Those rough but high notes. Any recommendations to raise my "rough but high note range" without kicking into falsetto? Any views on adding timbre to vocals? I find that in the process of trying to match timbre I end up creating my own and it sounds quite different...
  14. Hello TMVW Friends! Yesterday I shared a Youtube video slide show with Robert Lunte, which I had created to accompany a Song I wrote for my Dad's memorial service. He passed away, early last December. Normally, I would not have posted it here, only because I'm a tad self-conscious about being perceived as "fishing for compliments." Rob urged me to share it so I am doing so. I am proud of the song, and I'm just like anyone else, I do love compliments yet, because this is not a "review my singing post" that I am paying for, I want you all to know that I'm not opposed to "discussions" regarding my singing on this tune. I will give some back story on my Dad, some "behind the scenes" notes on the recording, then list some post recording observations about my vocals which I have had recently, those should ring true to discussions that are commonly had here at TMVW. My Dad: A pump engineer who's family business focused mainly on groundwater applications. After having the opportunity to help an orphanage in Mexico establish a much needed water well, he realized this was something he could do all over the world. He founded the organization linked here https://lifewater.org/ , back in the mid 70's which grew over the years to it's present impressive status. He and my Mom raised my two Brother's and my adopted Sister, and I, in a fundamental Christian tradition. While I have moved to a more "Mystical" type of Theology in my adult life, I revere, and am grateful for that upbringing. I did my best to honor this in the song. My Dad played Double Bass, and left a legacy of music for my siblings and I, my kids, and all my siblings kids as well. The recording: Recorded at Mindseye Productions http://www.mindseyeprod.com/ Arizona. My long time friend Bill Pearson is the owner. He is a master engineer, producer, & composer with a Grammy! I'm really lucky to know him. He's the reason I got some great studio vocal experience back in the late 80's and early 90's. After I wrote the song, I didn't have much time to rehearse the guitar plus, I have fairly bad carpal tunnel in both wrists so, my rehearsal endurance on guitar is limited to about 20 or 30 minutes per day. Due to this I ended up playing each (repeated) guitar section of the song only once or twice, then Bill copied and pasted. He made some beautiful embellishments on the keys, and added a nice sampled Double Bass & percussion tracks, which he composed and performed. This made it feel like my Dad was playing along with me, really moving for me! Also, I only had a rough idea of the melody, I wanted to sing it live and let any inspiration flow that came along. This made extra work for Bill because it took quite a number of takes to get the melody just how I liked it. Bill suggested the "speaking line," which I was hesitant about at first but ended up loving it! (That's what good producers do). My Vocals: A re-occurring experience for me, when it comes to studio vocals is; I will usually "o.k." a final take, then regret it later, wishing I had punched a "better," or "different" take. This happened on this recording. There were a few lines where my vowel modification was less than ideal. Also, one line in particular where I didn't use the best appaggio. Maybe you can spot those. Lyrics are in the Youtube description if you're interested. I strongly suggest using headphones or really good speakers!! Thanks for listening! k
  15. When I slide, or glissando up to a note, I can hit higher notes, with more on them, than I can just hitting the note alone. What I assumed I had discovered by doing this was 'mixed voice', but I don't know. As someone with a fairly normal male voice range, if I'm starting on g4 and sliding up to g5, heavy metal singer-style, am I still in chest voice, or is that impossible? Or was I right and that's some kind of mixed voice thing?
  16. Hello guys! I am just curious about this singer's voice and volume when he sings. I notice it is very airy and I know singing with excessive air is bad for your chords, but is there something about his technique or voice that allowed him to sing so long with a healthy voice? (10+ years) I also get very confused on how loud to sing when singing such songs. I guess it is a common problem in a sense when I sing very softly, I can reach those notes easily with my head voice with very little chord closure. OR I end up singing so loud where its basically belting with full chord closure. I can't for the life of me hit that middle area where there is JUST enough power while maintaining such a sweet tone without POWERING IT OUT. ( I am referring to the chorus) Any ideas? Thank you!
  17. Does professional and the vibrant and pleasant vocal tones develop over a long time? I am not currently satisfied with my range and tone especially and I want to be able to develop more and more. How is he able to manipulate his tone so well comparing the first two videos and third video? It's almost as if he's two different singers.. Personal questions: I have been singing for a while now but only recently throughout 2016 I have "Properly practiced" getting rid of my bad habits, fixing tone, pitch, etc. 1. Is it normal that after I started to do so, my range increased VERY FAST. In a span of 4-6 months, I am able now to reach the notes he is singing that otherwise BEFORE I would just choke and sound like I am shouting. Just curious because I am worried I might be destroying my voice by pushing it too hard. There are times before I damaged my voice by improper technique which I guess somehow made my voice range increase as a short cut? is that even possible? I tend to just go all out when I sing right after doing my workouts. Example song I practice is the first video I post below.. ( I am currently using Ken Tamplin's workouts, if that is helpful in any way). ONE IMPORTANT thing to note is that as I go up in pitch and shed my weight, It feels like the TONE of my voice gets higher as well. It's like I sound chesty in the lower ranges then suddenly like little kid in the higher ranges. I also tend to MIMIC singers for a long time... sadly.. is it normal that I am mimicing their style in every different singer? I feel like it doesn't sound "right" if I don't sing with their TONE. 2. As I go higher in pitch, is it normal to feel like something in my mask/palate area to NARROW DOWN? It feels like my mask area is flexing and my chords are very tightly closing. IT ISN'T PAINFUL. Or is this improper technique? Am I suppose to feel COMPLETELY OPEN? When I try to keep it completely open it feels like my voice goes SPLAT and airy and it hurts. Sometimes I feel like I am overwhelmed wondering if I am singing right or am I singing improperly even following his lessons and achieving growth. Anyways heres, the singer. How is his technique? It'll be awesome if there are some veterans or experienced singers to guide a newbie like myself to achieve this versatility in terms of programs and what I need to do. How does everyone here see Ken Tamplin's program?... Thank you!!
  18. Would it be better for my voice to rest today? or to exercise today? I fell asleep on the bus, going home from school, and somebody woke me up. What do you do if you're tired? Do you practice, or do you take a day off?
  19. Hi guys, so after some constructive criticism from some youtubers I recently purchased Reaper, and my friends and I are looking to do some better quality recording for some youtube covers and eventually some originals. I have done tons of research on recording and vst plugins, and I have my mind pretty much made up on all of them except for the vocals. Because I am singing in such a niche genre, I am not really sure what vocal plugins would be best for what I am going to be doing specifically.I have a very low bass voice, and we are mostly going to be doing Type O Negative covers and other bands of the same sort, so I want something either geared towards that or something that at least has the tools to handle it. I am going to include a few links for the sound that I am trying to replicate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD5No_JRrZwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y0WKslm-3khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiOZ6VlM91Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhLdI9fcH0As you can see, all these bands have a sort of "epic" sound to the vocals which is what I am looking for, of all the dozens of videos I have seen on vocals or articles I have read, they are mainly describing how to get a commercial radio sound, which is not at all what I am looking for. There are 2 main things I was wanting help with from this post, one help picking out a vocal plugin, and secondly help with just a general starting point how to achieve their vocal sound.I know that there is no all in 1 vocal processor that is better than buying the individual plugins, but I was hoping for some recommendations for a beginner like myself in a bundle. As I said, I have done months of research on this so I am not a complete idiot on the subject, but ease of use and hopefully many presets that would be useful for my purposes would be ideal.And secondly achieving that sound, I know you can't cram years of vocal editing advice into a reply, but I was hoping for just a general starting point for me to go from. I just don't have the ear to be able to tell what they are doing. Effects? Number of vocal tracks? Just the basic stuff.Also what would be a basic starting point for eqing my type of voice, I know you are supposed to boost what sounds good and cut out what sounds like crap, but I am not experienced enough to know what that is. Here is a link to a Woods of Ypres song, and then our cover of it to see what I am working with. Was just recorded with the camera mic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-zSyRQ5evEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Af9UMqRCEEquipment list:UR44 Audio InterfaceSM7B mic with cloudlifterAs I said, I have also pretty much made up my mind on the other plugins, but I am going to list them here, and if anyone has a better product in mind for what I am going to be doing, I am all ears! Thanks, Brad
  20. Hi guys, so after some constructive criticism from some youtubers I recently purchased Reaper, and my friends and I are looking to do some better quality recording for some youtube covers and eventually some originals. I have done tons of research on recording and vst plugins, and I have my mind pretty much made up on all of them except for the vocals. Because I am singing in such a niche genre, I am not really sure what vocal plugins would be best for what I am going to be doing specifically.I have a very low bass voice, and we are mostly going to be doing Type O Negative covers and other bands of the same sort, so I want something either geared towards that or something that at least has the tools to handle it. I am going to include a few links for the sound that I am trying to replicate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD5No_JRrZwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y0WKslm-3khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiOZ6VlM91Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhLdI9fcH0As you can see, all these bands have a sort of "epic" sound to the vocals which is what I am looking for, of all the dozens of videos I have seen on vocals or articles I have read, they are mainly describing how to get a commercial radio sound, which is not at all what I am looking for. There are 2 main things I was wanting help with from this post, one help picking out a vocal plugin, and secondly help with just a general starting point how to achieve their vocal sound.I know that there is no all in 1 vocal processor that is better than buying the individual plugins, but I was hoping for some recommendations for a beginner like myself in a bundle. As I said, I have done months of research on this so I am not a complete idiot on the subject, but ease of use and hopefully many presets that would be useful for my purposes would be ideal.And secondly achieving that sound, I know you can't cram years of vocal editing advice into a reply, but I was hoping for just a general starting point for me to go from. I just don't have the ear to be able to tell what they are doing. Effects? Number of vocal tracks? Just the basic stuff.Also what would be a basic starting point for eqing my type of voice, I know you are supposed to boost what sounds good and cut out what sounds like crap, but I am not experienced enough to know what that is. Here is a link to a Woods of Ypres song, and then our cover of it to see what I am working with. Was just recorded with the camera mic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-zSyRQ5evEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Af9UMqRCEEquipment list:UR44 Audio InterfaceSM7B mic with cloudlifterAs I said, I have also pretty much made up my mind on the other plugins, but I am going to list them here, and if anyone has a better product in mind for what I am going to be doing, I am all ears!
  21. Hi I've been trying to find something on a technique I'm using to produce a form of vibrato/tremelo. The term "bleating" in discussions of vocal technique doesn't seem to cover it, as this term is used to describe a form of vibrato that is said to "sound like" the bleating of a goat. What I am doing is exactly what you would do if you were imitating the sound of a goat bleating. (I suggest you try this now to see what I mean!) It gives a kind of machine-gun stutter of alternation between full vibration of the cords and relaxation. As described, it doesn't seem like a likely candidate for a nice sounding vibrato! However, with practice I'm finding that it can be smoothed out, and it sounds very similar to the fast vibrato of certian singers (e.g. Stevie Nicks). Just wondering if anyone has come across or tried this particualr technique? Is it a safe technique in terms of vocal health? (It feels good to me, but I know this is no guarantee of safety.)
  22. Hi guys I became very much interested in the double tracking recording technique for vocals. I Was wondering how you guys do it. For instance, do you record the vocal tracks as many times you need or just copy and paste one or two tracks? When you record many times, do you mute the previously recorded track or let it play together? When you re-record vocals do you sing exactly in the same way? I appreciate it guys.