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  1. Years ago this WAS the best forum for singers and teachers. Those wishing to learn and those willing to help and those who just want to discuss their thoughts on singing and training.. There is still a need for this forum and a community to belong to and interact with. I was here when the community was thriving and when things declined. There are two main issues that singers have to deal with. Egos and rejection. The thoughts of "Am I good enough?" and "Who has the right to tell me I am not good enough". No one has the right to tell you that you are not good enough. But, everyone does have a right to their opinion, and opinions differ. Some people will have a more pleasant starting sound than other people(according to "Popular" opinion) and people have different issues vocally to deal with. Not to mention the different purposes for wanting to improve and the different applications. So, when you ask "Am I good enough?" You will get opinions that you may not like and you may get opinions that would make you believe there is no improvement needed. The FACT is that your voice is constantly changing and keeping up with the changes and making improvements takes work and practice. Any state that your voice is in right now can and will change with time and the way you choose to develope. The problem arose with people arguing opinions as facts. Just because you like or dislike something or believe something does not make it a fact or correct. Letting other people express their opinion without challenging it will give yourself different ways to deal with issues that you may have with your own development. To that extent and also, Giving advice and expressing your own opinion will give you insights on how you yourself feel about your development and other ways and things you can do to improve your own vocal skills. Back to the topic of this post: Do you want to continue with this forum and give and receive advice and engage in conversations about vocal improvement, heath and how things work for vocalists and why they work or do not? YOU, who or whom ever you are, need to take part for this forum to continue and grow and be great again.
  2. Foods to sleep by for Vocal Health Getting enough sleep is one of the most important things a voice professional needs. When we get the proper amount of sleep, at least 7 hours, our body is refreshed, strong and full of energy. The strength, power, clarity and focus of our voice is very dependent on our body. If we feel weak and depleted then our voice will more than likely sound the same way. A good nights sleep is crucial for quality vocal health. While exercise and mental clarity are definitely important for a good nights sleep, diet is equally important. Vocal Health and Eating before sleeping The body needs to rest while sleeping. If we eat up to three hours before sleeping, then our digestive system is working very hard digesting our meal, taking energy that should be storing up as we sleep. This energy is also needed to restore and heal whatever our body and voice is going through even if it is just basic repair from the days normal activities. In addition to, and even more important is the effect of eating before sleeping on the voice. Eating before sleeping is one of the most common reasons voice professionals have GERD, also known as acid reflux. Many times because of eating before sleeping and lying down while digesting, food is not able to digest properly and excess acid from the stomach can move up into the throat and sit on the vocal cords causing a myriad of problems ranging from waking up with mucus on the cords to inflammation and even vocal cord deterioration. Eating the wrong foods before sleeping can also lead to a difficult nights sleep due to the effects on the brain. Sugars, white flour, processed foods, dyes, fried foods, glutens and carbohydrates all effect the brain negatively not allowing it to slow down and rest while sleeping. Tryptophan for Vocal Health It is important for voice professionals to know what to eat before they sleep to get a good nights sleep. One amino acid that is very useful in helping the body to slow down and rest peacefully is tryptophan. Tryptophan helps to combat depression, stabilize moods, and insomnia. It also helps to alleviate stress, is good for migraine headaches, and aids in weight control by reducing appetite. If you must eat within three hours of going to sleep, try eating smaller amounts of food and eating foods with high levels of tryptophan. Some excellent sources of foods containing tryptophan and have a low potential to create mucus include: Alaskan salmon Asparagus Baked potatoes with their skin Beans Brown rice Chicken breast Cod Eggs Halibut Hazelnuts Hummus Kelp Lentils Meats Nuts ( sprouted not roasted ) Quinoa Seaweed Sesame seeds Shrimp Snapper Soy protien Spinach Spirulina Tuna Turkey Winter Squash Certainly this list is not all inclusive and there may be some foods that do not digest well in one person and are okay for another. Each person needs to know what works for them and their vocal regimen. As a voice professional your vocal health must be one of the top priorities in your life. Get the right amount of sleep and eat properly to insure your voice delivers for you when you need it to. As always, I wish you the best on your quest for Superior Vocal Health David Aaron Katz
  3. Hello everyone, my passaggio is at B3-E4 and my chest voice is dark. It's not good for rock or pop cause is heavy and not pleasure. Some people told me I'm a tenor, others baritone but, is that possibile have a passaggio at B3-E4 beeing a tenor? It's possibile change the color of chest? Ty ...
  4. Hello I am having real trouble finding my falsetto, I can't make that effortless sound, it is always strained. I was always able to make a voice that I thought was falsetto, but I got to the conclusion that is flageolet instead. I got really used to it and it is relaxed, and really sounds like falsetto, but I think it isn't falsetto mainly because: - It isn't connected to chest voice. I know sometimes it's difficult to connect head and chest voice, but this is extremely disconnected, it is a different world. - I am able to transition smoothly from whistle to this flageolet. Not trying hard at all, just lowering the pitch from whistle, I end up in this voice. Demo: https://instaud.io/3rzk So, an example of this strained 'falsetto', in a moment with the voice quite tired (so that the strain is noticeable): https://instaud.io/3rzm Same song, in flageolet (I know it sounds a lot like a falsetto):https://instaud.io/3rzd An example of a song, in falsetto, that sounded better, in a moment my voice wasn't that tired: https://instaud.io/3rzf (Yes, I like Ed Sheeran XD). This is as close to a relaxed falsetto that I can get. So, any advice on how to find that relaxed falsetto? Maybe I am still unable to do it because I have those muscles untrained? I've tried yawning, making the sound of an owl, or Mickey Mouse's voice... Everything is strained. Any advice, or exercise? Thank you in advance Whistle to flageolet.mp3 Strained falsetto.mp3 Flageolet.mp3
  5. Hi everyone, I asked for feedback here over a year ago and really took the advice to heart! I've been practicing some more, but feel that I've kind of hit a wall with improvement. I want to become technically better and have a stronger voice (I feel I sound weak when I sing and I sound a bit flat) and I would like better vocal control. Any suggestions on what I could work on in particular? I'm open to any kind of constructive criticism since I want to get to the next level, thank you in advance to anyone responding! My Soundcloud:
  6. https://youtu.be/FxZZwxR6hyk https://youtu.be/M5ymDCllhd8 https://youtu.be/fKmR38DpgkA https://youtu.be/9EHat-NCseY I need to know if I sound good in tone and where I need to improve(vocal analysis). Also I don’t know if I’m a tenor or baritone.
  7. I've been really struggling determining my voice type. I've been singing since i was young but it was only the past year where i started being concerned with technique, agility, range, etc... I know i am not the best singer but it would really be great if someone will try to classify my voice and help me develop! My lows notes usually is from C#2-B3 but it can also reach B1 (vocal fry), I my voice starts to crack somewhere in F4 and G4 idk if i start transitioning from chest to mixed here but i know my voice switches into something else in this part. Idk where my head voice starts but it can reach up to G5. My falsetto can go as high as C6 sometimes Eb6 or higher but it's really hard and sounds very weak if i try to go higher than C6 and my whole voice gets tired and uncontrollable after overutelising it. Idk if i am resonant or if i have a good support. I'm not sure if i'm doing runs properly. Also, idk if i'm singing healthy. Self learning is hard ughhh Very high falsetto: https://soundcloud.com/user-935041544/img-2954 Comfortable falsetto: Me singing:
  8. Hello folks. I'm a 17 year old male, with a voice, best described as baritone. I have extreme low and high ranges, I can hit notes like the high ones in Dream On by Aerosmith, but it really does take a toll on my voice. What can I do to fix it? Thanks. Ryan
  9. So, I finally have a technique question. I saw a video about grunting and I essentially was able to work it into a growl that I can apply to singing. I can consistently do this now, but I know this can be harmful if done wrong, so I was wondering, to those who believe they are doing this right, and can consistently do this and have never had any problems, how does it feel to you? I've experimented with it, but not used it a whole ton. I've gotten it to the point where I barely feel it very little, if at all. Just looking for experiences to compare it to.
  10. Hi. I'm in need of help and good advice. After an hour or less of singing during my solo practice sessions or band rehearsals, my voice gets too airy. A sort of airy tone gets mixed with my voice, which is due to vocal strain. I'm attaching samples of my fresh voice and after 1 hour so you can compare. The airiness is most audible in single note "Ah". I may be too picky about this, but I want to know is this normal after an hour or what? I want to be able to sing with my clear voice during the whole show. I would appreciate very much if anyone can give a me good advice on how to avoid or at least minimize this. Thank you. 1- fresh voice.mp3 2- after 1 hour.mp3
  11. Hey guys, I was wondering if I can get some advice from you. I’m a male singer in my 20s, typically sing in a similar register as people like Gavin DeGraw. I typically do 3 hour (sometimes 4) acoustic gigs with a break or two in there. Ive always off and on had some issues with mucus and post nasal drip. But lately, over a lot of this year, it’s been much worse. There’s just an overload of mucus build up, sometimes I feel it more as a drip and sometimes it just feels like my nasal passages are tight. It has made my usual 3 hour gigs MUCH more tiring....it’s like the mucus is affecting my technique. Like there’s something blocking me when I try to bring my voice up into mixed voice and incorporate my nose for proper technique. Like there’s a wall blocking that area off or something, so I’m forced to use a not as healthy technique to hit the higher register which wears me out so much quicker. Basically, singing in my upper register/mixing doesn’t feel nearly as easy as it has in the past. Ive been allergy tested and have a dust mite allergy, i now take an antihistamine at night, Flonase in the morning and Mucinex as needed. I don’t have a ton of dairy and especially try to avoid it around my gigs. I drink a lot of water. I also run a lot and consider myself to be in good physical shape. Does anyone else have experience dealing with this, and if there’s any ways to deal with it?
  12. Hiya! So I've been having this problem for years, but so far no doctor can tell me why (and irritatingly, the one who should be able to just wants to money gouge me). Occasionally, and seemingly with no pattern, my ears are unable to balance themselves - think of when they're needing to be popped going up or down a big hill, but the trouble is I can't un-pop them. This makes singing difficult not to the listener, but it sounds incredibly different in my own head (resonates differently, especially the M's, N's and going into many vowel sounds) and my technique goes out the window. Any suggestions at all? Much appreciated!
  13. 2 years ago I caught a cold and developed laryngitis as a result.. Due to my ignorance at the time, even tho I could not talk, I still managed to yell.. I remember exactly how it felt when I would do this.. like I was forcing my voice up, past my chest and throat, and through, from the top of my head.. You can only imagine the damage I caused doing that.. well, fast forward and to make a long story short, I was diagnosed by an ENT with muscle tension dysphonia. He placed me on 8 weeks vocal therapy and in that time I had improved greatly (90-95% back normal) .. The tension began to return after about three months and this time I had "uneven vocal folds", indicating the begining of vocal nodules.. so back for another 12 weeks of therapy I went, next follow-up and the nodules were gone.. However this time around my voice has not returned to normal and it's been about 6 weeks now post follow-up. I've noticed I can't even seem to access my head voice anymore . It feels as if I have a board in my head sitting *above my nose but resting under my eyes * and it's physically blocking me from reaching that point (just an visual) this is worrying to me because the head voice, all my life, has been a comfortable and frequent resonance for me. My chest voice is fine and my mixed voice is extremely hard to maintain without breaks and I have no range whatsoever.. Is it possible to "blow out" your head voice ? Even with pitch slides and other resonance and vocal stretching exercises, the effort seems very discouraging.. What sounds like could be my "head voice", really just sounds "broken" .
  14. Hello I'm a 19 years old girl who loves singing. I want to improve my singing skills, and I want to learn how I can sing without hurting my throat. Could anybody listen to my songs and critique them or teach me how to get improved? https://youtu.be/1qLiXAqia9Y Here's the link of my covers.
  15. Hi, I have always, as long as I have defined my self as a singer, experienced periods of bad vocal health. Over time I have learned better technique and learned to sing smart and kind of use damage control paths through songs on rough days but I find it really hard to just surrender to not knowing what really goes on. Problem is basically this. During periods which can last from a few days to a few months in row, I experience like some configuration just goes out after just a very short time singing notes over the passagio. What happens after this is that my falsetto/neutral is fine while my twang is totally gone and trying to produce twanged vowels result in a complete mess. I can still sing cross the passagio with heavy voice production in a kind of overdriven manner but the smooth transition is gone. Funny though how the configuration seem to work somewhat initially only to go out completely after a short while. The common answer to vocal problems like this might be acid reflix. Go see a doctor, get your subscriptions and eliminate triggers. Yes, my doctor has seen symptoms of acid reflux and I have been on and off prescription medicines for a long time. I rather not take them though considering negative sideffects from such meds. Also the meds doesn't really seem to do the trick or might work initially like some kind of pseudo effect. But the problems always seem to come back. I also remember doing laryngoscopy one time during a period of experiencing problems and the doctor could not find any obvious redness. That thew me a little bit of the chair thinking it might have to do with something else. I seldom experience severe "morning voice" which seem to be a common symptom of LPR or GERD. The problem only occurs when singing over the passagio and during long vocal lines. I am interested in what other things could cause the symptoms i'm describing. A theory of mine is that it is related to viral infection. I base this theory upon the fact that problems seem to go when after periods of being sick. My theory is that there could be viral infections that does not break out and just sits there waiting for the body defense system to react. Another theory is that this is technique related and could be the result of a vocal blow out or something like that. Allhough I never change my technique and when I have a good day everything is fine and this could sometimes be from one day to the next so it really does not make sense. I wonder what you think. Have anyone of you had or maybe are having the same kind of problems?
  16. Hi there folks! I just joined today, my name is Liza Jean (stage name, granted), and I sing for a KC-based rock band. I'm an alto/mezzo and my chest range is roughly F3 to D5, and my head voice is about Eb5 to G5. That being said, I can belt an Eb5 in chest, but it comes and goes, as that area is where my vocal break sits. So I guess I'm here with a few questions! I take singing lessons currently, but I'm pretty certain my teacher doesn't have formal training in the sense of knowing the pieces of the vocal chords. She has her own solo project and usually teaches children, and while we've made some great progress with where my voice was last year, I'm still hitting some roadblocks that I'm not sure how to explain, and that neither of us are sure how to overcome. So I thought I would turn to y'all! So without further ado, I'll try to word these in a way that makes sense: 1. When I initially started working on strengthening my head voice, I did by using a lot of nasal-y 'nya' vocalizing. However, I've found fairly recently that this seems to create a lot of tension in the back of my mouth/back of my tongue. When I sing in head voice, it's hard to not fall into it, and if you put your thumbs under your jaw and right at the back where it curves up, that soft space always feels 'weird' when I sing head voice. The best way I can describe it is like someone's stuffed cotton into the space or similar. I'm pretty sure it's tongue tension but I'm not positive. Thoughts? 2. My chest voice is very deep-sounding in tambre, and pretty warm. Even when I belt, there's still a decent richness to the tone, but once I get into head voice, I lose it. My upper register sounds like a completely different voice: it's a little thin in tambre (but not breathy), very bright, and just generally not what I want. I'd love to bring some of the richness of my chest voice into my head voice, but I'm not sure how to. 3. The dreaded vocal break. I definitely have it, and it's very noticeable. What are some good exercises to smooth this out? It tends to sound a bit like a yodel, but there's still a patch of graveliness when I make the switch, even if I slow down the exercise I'm doing. Being able to switch seamlessly between my two registers would be absolutely ideal! 4. In general, I tend to break fairly easily in my head voice. I know this is probably a matter of strengthening my breath support, but in particular words that start with a vowel or glottal stop have a high tendency to break and/or crack, and so far my only real method is to just very slowly go through the vowels while in my head voice, but I'd love if there was a better set of exercises I could do. Songs I tend to sing for practice on these things include Stone Cold (Demi Lovato), Praying (Kesha), and more recently Who You Are (Jessie J). They all have a lot of runs and switching between the registers, and I'd love to be able to sing them and have my voice sound like one seamless, well-mixed register. Any advice is appreciated! (And if I can, I'll try and get a vocal recording up one of these days if it's easier to hear what I'm talking about.) -LJ
  17. Howdy! In Catholic monasteries you have monks going up early in the morning (or in the midfle of the night) to pray the Liturgy of the hours. They just start to sing without any warm up exercise whatsoever. I discussed this with a vocal teacher who said that they use singing wich are closer to how we speak than other types of singing. But I am still not sure why I do neef warm ups instead of just singing something easy like the monks do (maybe they star of easily anyway). What are your thoughts and reflections on this?
  18. Hello, Im currently a student and i love singing alot, but i couldnt afford a vocal class and im facing this problem with my voice, and i dont know what is this or why it happen. is my voice broken??? https://soundcloud.com/nicole-chang-959104894/whats-this-weird-sound i sing with my head voice at the beginning, it starts at F3 and my head voice it very weak, then i tried changing from chest voice to head voice, it has this really weird sound. anyone can tell me why this happen? and how can i fix this? pleaseeeeeee
  19. Hello, Im currently a student and i love singing alot, but i couldnt afford a vocal class and im facing this problem with my voice, and i dont know what is this or why it happen. is my voice broken??? https://soundcloud.com/nicole-chang-959104894/whats-this-weird-sound i sing with my head voice at the beginning, it starts at F3 and my head voice it very weak, then i tried changing from chest voice to head voice, it has this really weird sound. anyone can tell me why this happen? and how can i fix this? pleaseeeeeee
  20. Guys, I'm having problem with my voice. I have no physical damage (ENT checked) but my voice sounds like this https://vocaroo.com/i/s0lxyGbKoqb9
  21. Basically I no longer can sing in head voice or falsetto. A few years ago I was able to sing in head voice I believe (still don't really know the difference, I just know I can't make high pitched sounds) but it was very difficult even then and the last time I was able to do it like that was about 3 years ago. The last time I was even able to make any kind of sound in that area was about last year but I only sang one phrase then my voice cracked. I can't even do a "woo" or scream. I've tried looking this up but they all say to just go higher and it will come naturally but when I get to my highest mixed note (D5-Eb5) I just simply can't go any higher.. I turning 16 soon so could it just be my voice is still developing, bad technique or is it damaged? ----- Had two things to ask but thought I would just keep it in the same post Also another thing is I am not new to music I just want to be able to sing decently to my favorite songs but my voice is very soft and weak and I hate it especially in mixed voice, I have a soft tenor sound which I can make a little bit more powerful by singing louder but my range is E2-D5 (comfortably F#2/G2 - D4) anything below F#2 I can only sing with a lowered larynx, anything above roughly G4 is raised larynx and mixing which sounds super whiny and starts to hurt after a while making singing with male singers extremely difficult. I know this isn't much to go off of and is kind of all over the place but any advice would be greatly appreciated!
  22. Okay maybe not for "no reason". Basically I have a very weird problem. I've been singing professionally for over 15 years. Here's my prob... Ihave a tiny kiss nodule which I'm trying to eliminate by drinking lots of water and warm ups BUT that's not the real problem. The real problem is my vocal chords sometimes have a spasmic thing! The doctor's couldn't understand why. For instance we're having a conversation. I'm explaining something to you, i'm talking in a normal pace and suddenly, in the middle of my sentence or word, my voice just cuts out and I feel like a very strong vocal spasm kinda feeling. It's like someone just strangled my vocal chords while I was trying to talk. I swallow and take a sip of water, wait a bit (maybe like 30 secs) and then my vocal chords are back to it's original form. It happens while I'm talking or singing and the highness or lowness of the notes don't matter. It happens every day but not a lot. Maybe twice a day and I can't understand why Maybe the nodule is the problem? Can you please help me? I can't find anything about it online, i try to find vocal spasms and it shows stuff unrelated. Anyone had that experience? I'm strongly sure it' some kind of a spasm but can't understand why it's happening...
  23. Hi everyone this is my first post here and I'm just wondering if someone might have some input for me. About a month ago, just after Easter, I went down with a horrible throat infection for almost two weeks, during which I was coughing so hard I thought my throat was going to bleed! ( It didn't). At one point I was tested for Whooping Cough but this came back negative. Mostly as a result of this relentless coughing, I completely lost my voice for a few days. Two weeks after I felt I had recovered, my speaking voice has now returned but still sometimes sounds quite tired and hoarse. More importantly, I can't sing. All of my top notes are gone, and I don't feel I can rely on my voice. I may be jumping the gun a bit here, and maybe I just need to give it more time. and I have kinda been here before in that after being sick, it has sometimes taken weeks for the inflammation to completely wind down, but it feels like things have plateaued a bit and I'm not really noticing much improvement from one day to the next. My question is - should I just be completely resting it at the moment, and laying off singing altogether? Or would it be helpful to do some gentle warming up/ exercises and has my voice just got out of shape while I was sick? At the lower end, my voice when singing does seem to be almost fully recovered. Obviously I don't want to do anything that will cause damage, but I also want to 'get back on the horse' so to speak before I start losing vocal fitness. Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
  24. Hi guys, my problem is that when I'm alone or with my closest friend, I can easily sing in tune, I mean, not hitting the highest notes, because I am not on this level of singing, but I can go through a song without singing out of tune. But last night I went to karaoke bar with my friends and when we were doing one song (Bruno Mars - uptown funk if you want to know)and I felt that I were not singing, but shouting. (Also it was the first time I held a microphone lol XD). I don't know what the reason is. I don't think it's beacuse I couldn't hear myself, because it happens even when I'm with just a bunch of friends and we sing something together and I can hear my voice. I also don't think the problem is being nervous, because I am not. I am used to people and I'm not shy then. Do you know where the problem can be?... /also, sorry for my english it's not official language in my country lol/