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  1. Hi guys, I'm 31 years old. I've always been bad at singing, but I'd like to see if I can become pleasant to listen to-- at least a little. I can play music by ear on a few instruments, so I'd like to think I can discern my own pitch. So where do I start? What's the plan?? Thanks, Mike
  2. MAESTRO DAVID KYLE THE WINDOW OF FAME Vocal teacher for all styles for over 50 years, David Kyle, The “Maestro” became a local Seattle icon and was considered by the industry to be one of the best vocal instructors for contemporary singers in the world. Unique to the “Maestro’s” approach was his method for expanding vocal range into multiple “registers”, or what we would refer to today at TVS as, "Bridging & Connecting". Maestro was also keen on eliminating psychological barriers that hinder singers’ freedom of expression, by use of creative visualization techniques and development of healthy auditory imagery for singing. One day, Nate Burch, one of my students from Seattle, came to the lesson with an old coffee stained piece of paper that had a hand written, transcribed lecture from Maestro Kyle on it. An excerpt from that lecture is shared below as well as popular quotes that Maestro Kyle used to use with all his students. Maestro David Kyle & Robert Lunte - The Vocalist Studio MAESTRO DAVID P. KYLE LECTURE: Those sounds which seem to ring the most are usually the best. Those which seem the roundest are usually the best. Those which seem to resonate are usually the best. Those which seem to echo are usually the best. So listen out into the theater and see if they are echoing, and if they are round, and they are resonant. Connect your notes and don’t be afraid. There are two kinds of stars. There are “stars” and there are “superstars.” The star no matter how he tries he just can’t seem to become a superstar. He’s great, great, great, great, but along comes a Caruso, or a Lanza, or a Gigli, and he can’t quite get over the hurdle. It’s because of one simple thing. The star sings, and when he’s singing he listens to himself; and while he’s listening he shapes it; and he opinionates it; and he shapes it around. If it isn’t round enough he rounds it more. And that sounds logical doesn’t it? It’s wrong! The superstar pictures the sound and knows what he wants to hear before he makes it! Singing is more the concept than anything. If we’ve got the right idea, then the muscles as they train more and more they become like a reflex and the reflexes respond to the image. Even if you’re trained beautifully and your image is a fear that you haven’t got high notes and it’ll never get there the reflexes won’t respond no matter how well trained you are. The epitome of it is you can say singing is absolutely mental. In the process of getting to realize that you have to take a lot of physical steps before you begin to see it, but it is true! The singer has to be in the consciousness and the mood. How does one establish a consciousness and a mood? You tend to become as you act. So if you pretend and try to get your feelings to act as you think they would act if you were doing it, then you’re getting in the consciousness. But if our consciousness is only on body and physical things then our mind is... The rest of the lecture offers another 5 pages of incredible insights about how the mind controls the singing voice. Read the entire lecture in The Four Pillars of Singing. Maestro David Kyle - The Vocalist Studio Maestro David Kyle Quotes “Good singers sing and listen, Great singers listen, then sing” “Good speech is half sung, but good singing is not half spoken.” “Wear the world like a loose garment. Don’t let it tighten in on you.” “Suppose you were learning to drive a car. Would it be better to learn on a road with no obstructions?” “Every negation is a blessing in disguise.” “The art of the art is the art that conceals the art.” “He who would know aught of art must first learn and then take his ease.” “When you open up you should be able to see light from both ends.” “Feel like you are singing with your whole body.” “Your reflexes respond to your image.” “The reflexes respond to the imagination.” “Listen away from yourself.” “Sing on the balls of your feet, like the American Indian.” “Burn Bridges and don’t look back.” “Listen away from yourself, right out into the auditorium.” “Singing is both a science and an art. All art is all imagination and you cannot fix that.” “You have to believe you will receive before you receive and then you will get it.” “Visualize you are already what you want to be. Act as if you are that, and you will become it.” “If you always notice what you are while trying to get there, you’ll never get there.” “Start as if the sound begins before the breath.” “The end is in the beginning, and the beginning is in the end.” “It’s not a game I’m playing! If you think that you’re short changing yourself.” “People don’t get tired of their work; they get tired of the resistance to their work.” “Forever diet the voice. Diet the voice; diet the mind; diet the spirit; diet everything but your income!” “Feel like your whole self is all a part of the sound, like the full violin is just vibrating.” “Imagine the sound you want, picture the sound you want.” “Open up the entire body and see the light through both ends!” “Breath, pause, release the jaw, visualize the sound you want, and sing to the back of (Carnegie Hall).” “We don’t let attitudes control us, we control them!” “Only babies are victims of moods!” “Let the sound flow right over the roof of the mouth into the masque.” “Bowels up, vowels forward.” “Some day you’re going to stand up and say, ‘This is me’ and go!” “We tend to become as we act.” “Attitude is everything in everything.” “Every time you find your thinking going to the strain or the resistance, immediately create mentally the sound that you want, hear what you want.” “And remember you have a beautiful voice. At your worst you sound better than many of them at their best!” “Just don’t sound like everyone else!” “And tell it your singing marvelous, you’re singing wonderfully!” “Sing Away from yourself, to something.” “Listen, then sing!” “Way to go Baby!” Maestro David Kyle passed on Saturday, November 27th of 2004 OTHER VOICE COACHES OF ROBERT LUNTE...
  3. If you're doing it wrong. I tried for years to match these guys who were up in tenor range, because a lot of guys I listened to were tenors. I couldn't do it without flipping into falsetto and ending up with a completely different tone. I finally start working with somebody who knows and not only do I find I'm getting up in that range, I find out that I'm a tenor! After believing for 8 years that I'm a baritone. I got several opinions on that. Some thought I was a baritone, some weren't sure. It just goes to show that it doesn't matter how many times you do something or how hard you try if you're doing it wrong. Failure does not mean you can't do something. An important lesson.
  4. Questions: 1. Can fapping daily for a long time effect your voice from the hormones and all the technical stuff that happens? Can it (in a process) change your pitch a little, help (or) go against expansion of the vocal range, and can it make the voice more "unreliable" and less solid (especially on the notes that close to the end of your range) ? 2. I need a help about finding a couple of formats for singing exercises. (I've done a lot of searching and nobody helped me please) (All of them are by Michael Jackson) + https://youtu.be/z2HSWsqVS8k?t=1m54s (on 1:54) - Michael is doing a "ohh" with a lot of different notes that seem to work more on the flexible side (correct me if I'm wrong).. Can you please help me find the format ? to post here notes as an example from that exercise from the video so I can learn the format and use this for my range. * and the same (^) with the four exercises below please. + https://youtu.be/z2HSWsqVS8k?t=6m47s (on 6:47) Michael is doing "ma" I could understand that 3 Major Notes UP - 4 Major Notes is on MAX - and 3 Major Notes DOWN (correct me if I'm wrong). + the same with https://youtu.be/z2HSWsqVS8k?t=11m53s (on 11:53) with the "no". + https://youtu.be/z2HSWsqVS8k?t=21m1s (on 21:01) with the "oh". + https://youtu.be/z2HSWsqVS8k?t=45m22s (on 45:22) with the "oh" . It's a pretty hard work (I Guess) to find these formats, I just want you to know that I really appreciate your help ! 3. What exercise would you recommend to help with the flexibility in the higher notes, but those who are more close to the end of the range. what exercise would make them more "reliable" or it's just that you need to expand your range more to make them more central and reliable. 4. (EDIT) Could you please give me a way of how to bridge through the passaggio ? Thank you all !!
  5. Hello Fellow TMVW members! Humbling though it may be, I thought I would share a track I'm working on, (Beatles - In My Life) and the vocal "sculpting" process I go through in an effort to record my best performance. (I'd never share unfinished tracks except to friends and in this forum . . . plain vanity) I've had a lot of experience analyzing my vocals for recordings, I never quite knew how to articulate the process I was engaging in nearly as well as after having gone through The Four Pillars of Singing, learning the "talk track" I've heard Robert Lunte utilize across many hours of lecture videos! Once one is familiar enough with these "mechanisms" for mending, strengthening, or otherwise fine tuning a vocal line, the mystery about what to do goes away! Rob's techniques are structured in a simple, yet meticulous sequence that really does create the feeling of having a vocal sculpting tool box! I'm posting this both as a subject of interest to others who may be starting out with this type of challenge, and as a means of accountability for me to complete the process, which has been brutal for me due to inexperience with the recording software. It's good for me though, as I intend to record several old hit favorite song interpretations in the coming months. I'll post my final "sculpture" here for this track when I finally complete it. "Work to be done" on this vocal performance is: Pitchy lyrics / appaggio drop out, vowel mods for best resonance, better phrasing, embouchure brightening, slight lightening of mass throughout, . . . . I'm sure there's more, also, rhythm guitar mistakes, and guitar solo is not quite tight yet, not happy with the effects on my voice yet either. I'm contemplating leaving the last "in my life" line unresolved like it is now. I was trying to sing that last half of the last line and had to quit recording due to a leaf blower. I think i'll like it that way, maybe with a high harmony over the top. Lastly, I may end up using a different mic than I did for this take. One thing that clearly gets hammered home in this process is that performing live is a far more forgiving environment than being under the microscope of a recording. Peace, k
  6. Please go and visited my channel and view some videos www.paytonsellsmusic.com
  7. Hear is a list of scales I picked up from someone but I have not tried any of them yet. Hole tone. Dorian. Phrygian. Lydian. Mixo lydian. Lucrian. Chromatic. Diminished. Pentatonic. Major & Minor. Blues. Arpeggio. Oxg augmented. Do you recognize any of them and do you know which is best or a better scale set for improving ones pitch Thank you
  8. Lucky for me, I healed in two days! Yes, this is a personal story, a cautionary tale of the vocal danger of over confidence, which can fuel lack of training, and lead to injury! It's a slice of humble pie for me to tell about this, especially with the influential voice of TVS & this TMVW community always echoing in my mind. So here's what shut off the echo (my excuse). A friend of mine gave me a call to invite me to jam with an old cover band he is considering reforming. I had not had the chance to jam with local musicians since I was last living where I am now some 8 years ago. Back then, my friend (the drummer), had me sing as a temporary fill in for his band since I couldn't commit to long term at the time. I was amped about singing live hard rock with some talented players! On the way to the jam, in the car, I made a feeble attempt at "tracking" (nasals) with the radio. Failed to get a proper sound check and sound level. I walked in to the rehearsal room (garage studio) and within a few minutes, the PA was flipped on, the guys were warmed up and I chose this song off the set list on the wall, an old favorite to start off the night: Song went great, these kats are tight! I was having a good time yet, as soon as we were done with that song I knew instantly I had very little passaggio left! I could feel it when I would just softly sing a scale. I told the guys the bad news, THEN had us get my mic level right, and was expecting the jam to be ruined however, I was surprised to discover that the songs we then played, I was able to gimp through them relying only on M1 and the upper end of M2. The guys said, "dude you sound fine, there's nothing wrong with your voice!" That gave me a chuckle and I proceeded to tell them a brief explanation of passaggio. Then, the last song we played for the night helped them see exactly what I was talking about. The guitarist (who could sing quite well) had to take over. Much of this song is in the passaggio for me. I was quite bummed as I'm a big Adams fan, love singing any of his tunes! So, In my defense, I was sort of swept off my feet in the excitement of getting to jam after years of missing it! I forgot the most basic elements of protecting the voice from damage. Singing too loud (due to no sound check, lead vocal mic too low), with distortion, WITHOUT proper appaggio (mainly diaphragmatic support) I've got no real excuse in forgetting to support, complete failure as a vocal athlete. At least I can say, it won't happen again! So there's that, don't do what I did! Sing every day! Always sound check! Train, Train, Train! peace, k
  9. I believe there is such an exercise called whistle tones that can extend your vocal range and involves vocal fry Anyone know what this is please?
  10. Hi! I'm new-ish to this forum, posting here for the very first time because I'm super excited to share my progress. I'm male, 23, started taking singing lessons only 2 months ago. Prior to that I was a rubbish singer. I'd read a lot about vocal technique in the past i.e. chest, head voice etc. but it was all rather abstract - especially when it came to the mysterious mixed voice (what the what?). Anyway, I couldn't sing for my life until recently when I bit the bullet and started seeing a voice teacher near where I live. Only 2 months later and I CANNOT believe the progress I have made! This recording was taken today - I usually record myself doing vocal exercises at home - and has me doing a vocal slider up to C5 while adding some cord closure and lots of support. Although I could only hold the note in full voice for a couple of seconds, I managed to get a tinge of vibrato in there and the release felt AMAZING! 2 months ago I was straining to even hit C5 in falsetto! https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ecsVplMXIH Just goes to show that practice and patience works!
  11. hannahgrace55

    Warm Ups for New Singers!

    I am working with a new voice student. She has been a piccolo and flute 8+ years. I am trying to find some effective warm-ups for her. She is able to match pitch and has more confidence singing in her lower range. She has been recently singing with a very pressed sound and is very tense when beginning warm-ups. Trying to find warm-ups to help combat these things!
  12. Eperty123

    Weird head voice?

    Hello everyone, So I've been to a couple of singing lessons and finally confirmed that I've accessed my head voice. Problem is that it sounds weird. Check this out and this out. Let me know what you guys think.
  13. I know I have good ears because I can easily hear the flaws in my voice, and I'm a mixing engineer. I have a flexible voice and I can easily sing fast runs and such. But I noticed that I can't quite keep singing one note without it bending up or down slightly Say I wanted to sing the C note for 10 seconds, I could hold it for the first 2 or 3 seconds, but then there's a small bump either moving my voice up or down, which makes me sound off key. I also know that it's because I can't keep my breath flowing at one speed without changing. So basically, I have a problem with keeping my breathing speed to be consistent, and when my breathing speed changes, it affects the pitch of my voice. But I don't know what kind of exercise Is the most efficient to help me with this. I'm also a smoker which I know affects my breathing but not sure if it has anything to do with this specific problem. Does anyone know what I should do to be able to do this?
  14. BlazinAcoustics

    Singing Improvement and training

    Hi All, I have created a YouTube Channel on which I plan to upload acoustic guitar instrumentals to help fellow singers train and improve their singing skills. Looking for feedback and suggestions. What do you guys think? Link to the latest video:
  15. Currently debating my existence listening to the melismas in Handel's 'See the raging flames arise.' Any tips on melismas in general?
  16. 2 cats in a dust bin

    An exercise specifically for rhythm

    Hello there Time and time again I have been told to work on my rhythm Well when I asked them how, I was told to use a metronome when singing the song or tap your foot along to the song. And I have to say with out that I just cant grasp it. I mean how many singers do you see using a metronome while on stage. I mean all I have to do now is work on my rhythm and my pronunciation and to be honest after that it wont be that far off. But without getting my rhythm timed correctly then I am just going nowhere; it just seams all the time I am singing way to fast for the songs I am singing. I am wondering if there is an exercise or 2 that I can do repetitively for say a week or 2 or even a month that will inbeed the skill I need for rhythm into my memory Thanks 2CIADB
  17. 2 cats in a dust bin

    Strengthening The Diaphragm

    Hello there Yesterday I took my first ever 1 to 1 singing lesson and at the very end of the lesson my teacher mention I need to build/ strengthen my diaphragm. We did not go into detail about this as it was the end of the lesson but when I google "how to strengthen diaphragm for singing" one thing that comes up is a demonstration of the balloon exercise http://www.vocalliberation.com/articles/singing-breathing-exercises-the-balloon-squat/ What is the point to this exercise and how will it help improve my singing? Thanks 2CIADB
  18. Gill Appleby

    Wade In The Water (Smule)

    https://www.smule.com/recording/eva-cassidy-wade-in-the-water/830708093_1214803719
  19. A voice change can indicate a problem of the vocal health. It can range from cold to allergies and even vocal cord cancer. Here are a few voice changes that can indicate a certain problem: 1. Raspy voice- This voice is caused due to the growth of vocal cord nodules. The prominent reason of this is due to the misuse and overstraining of the voice. It is important that in order to maintain the voice, one should take singing lessons at a certified vocal school. 2. Hoarseness of voice- This kind of voice can be a symptom of throat cancer, thyroid cancer, lime disease, or brain tumors which are caused due to excessive smoking. Therefore, it is important that one must not smoke and live a healthy life. 3. Nasal voice- It is also known as hyponasal which is typically caused by deviated septum which can cause cold and chronic allergies. Therefore, it is necessary that one should properly maintain the vocal health. Maintaining the vocal health is very necessary to avoid any problems in the near future. Therefore, one should not strain the voice unnecessarily and take help of a professional to keep the vocal health maintained. ---------------------- I am Music Tutor, I like to motivate people to join music, and make a brilliant career in singing. Please share your experience. ------------------- Vocal School San Jose | Voice lessons san jose | Voice Classes san jose
  20. 2 cats in a dust bin

    Vocal tone exercises

    So I see a lot of videos on our free and wonderful you tube for the search tem "vocal tone exercises" But these videos do not coincides with each other and there is no clear illustration of how to "tone up". Its is almost like one video is completely different to another video. Is there a proper exercises out there that will help on improving singing tone? Thanks 2CIADB
  21. Hey guys I'm going to be producing a weekly vocal tip video series starting end of January. Honestly I've never really watched any of these type of series and was wondering if there were any topics people wanted covered. If it's something I have experience with I will be happy to oblige. Thanks so much.
  22. Well from what I have seen it would appear that all the online training programs and the youtube lessons are all geared to the Baritone level I mean take this shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCxmDUl8__U they have a special for Bass a special for Baritone and a special for Tenor but nothing for Contralto and Soprano Now I know there are more males use the internet the females but there really is no excuse for a one size fits all training policy now is there
  23. Yo! All my fellow singing geeks! I came across the article I've linked here (below video). I thought it is was very well written (a quick read), and includes a couple comments by Justin Stoney (coach most of us probably know from Youtube). I have read & posted in our "techniques" forum regarding so called "Natural Singers," percentages of the population who are or are not, training, and etc. Hope this helps lend some clarity to the matter(s). article - Singing Tips: Have A Certain Skull Shape, And Other Science Behind Carrying A Tune http://www.medicaldaily.com/singing-tips-have-certain-skull-shape-and-other-science-behind-carrying-tune-308372
  24. 2 cats in a dust bin

    Vocal workouts for rhythm 

    Is there such a thing?
  25. 2 cats in a dust bin

    Siren app wanted

    So onto my next vocal work out exercise I want to do a siren exercise starting at a low note and going to a height note and then back down again I want a sound that I can pitch to and match my voice to the frequency Yes I have done this before with a piano to each and ever pacific note, but now I want that kind of thing in a siren So dose anyone know of an app or a downloadable link please?