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  1. Questions: 1. Can fapping daily for a long time effect your voice from the hormones and all the technical stuff that happens? Can it (in a process) change your pitch a little, help (or) go against expansion of the vocal range, and can it make the voice more "unreliable" and less solid (especially on the notes that close to the end of your range) ? 2. I need a help about finding a couple of formats for singing exercises. (I've done a lot of searching and nobody helped me please) (All of them are by Michael Jackson) + (on 1:54) - Michael is doing a "ohh" with a lot of different notes that seem to work more on the flexible side (correct me if I'm wrong).. Can you please help me find the format ? to post here notes as an example from that exercise from the video so I can learn the format and use this for my range. * and the same (^) with the four exercises below please. + (on 6:47) Michael is doing "ma" I could understand that 3 Major Notes UP - 4 Major Notes is on MAX - and 3 Major Notes DOWN (correct me if I'm wrong). + the same with (on 11:53) with the "no". + (on 21:01) with the "oh". + (on 45:22) with the "oh" . It's a pretty hard work (I Guess) to find these formats, I just want you to know that I really appreciate your help ! 3. What exercise would you recommend to help with the flexibility in the higher notes, but those who are more close to the end of the range. what exercise would make them more "reliable" or it's just that you need to expand your range more to make them more central and reliable. 4. (EDIT) Could you please give me a way of how to bridge through the passaggio ? Thank you all !!
  2. I've been thinking about vocal warmups and I'm curious to what is the actual purpose - Is it to "remind yourself" of the proper coordination, making sure the technique is spot on? - Is it about actually warming up the vocal muscles? - Is it psychological because you are afraid of injuring the voice? - Is it to "draw fluid" out of the voice to get rid of "morning voice" or get rid of mucus? - What do you think about the argument that "Vocal stamina is not unlimited, so warming up is actually wasting some of the stamina?". What's the purpose of a vocal cool down? In a sense it's counter intuitive to use the voice more to recover more? To reset the muscles to a relaxed state? Also I'm not looking for reasoning via analogy (f.ex. you wouldn't run without a warm up), I already know a lot of professionals recommend warm ups but I'm curious to the actual reason. It seems like a lot of the warmups are different and they seem really arbitrary in their focus. So if there is an actual purpose to warming up then it ought to be personal and intentional
  3. hannahgrace55

    Warm Ups for New Singers!

    I am working with a new voice student. She has been a piccolo and flute 8+ years. I am trying to find some effective warm-ups for her. She is able to match pitch and has more confidence singing in her lower range. She has been recently singing with a very pressed sound and is very tense when beginning warm-ups. Trying to find warm-ups to help combat these things!
  4. Singing with rhinitis

    Singing with Rhinitis part 3

    Hi again, I tried support in these recordings but either I don't know how to do it properly because my throat still hurts. Like a grater was used on it. I'm currently using lozenges to soothe. Of late my voice has been raspy, I don't know why because my voice isn't usually like this. The ENT I went to said he sees nothing wrong with my vocal chords on the stoboscopy, he doesn't understand why I'm raspy now or sore throat. He says I'm probably going to have to do more tests. I'm still of the opinion that diaphragm breathing/ support only assists with sore neck & not throat. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help (Why is there no gospel tag? Is it cause it's not really a genre, cause you can get gospel rock, gospel rap etc. It's similar to animation where it's not a genre cause it could be a drama or comedy etc? if so where do hymns sit?) Mountains of mercy - Gaithers Vocal Band Hosanna
  5. leithinkjesusiscool

    Your warmup experience...?

    Hi! I would find it interesting to know how you deal with your; so called, warmup exercices. Personally, mine are eg. breathing (mostly just the hiss exercise), lip trills, vowels. They are of course, also more than just warmups as I use them for learning intervals and so on. I've tried the hiss exercice while preparing tea in the morning but...the more physical things I do the shorter my hiss become but on the other hand you sometimes play an instrument and sing which is physical. Might be difficult to get the right body position when being in the kitchen. People, on the other hand, talk about how you can do your exercices while preparing tea and things like that. Has this worked for you or has it not worked? What are your experiences?
  6. Hey guys I'm going to be producing a weekly vocal tip video series starting end of January. Honestly I've never really watched any of these type of series and was wondering if there were any topics people wanted covered. If it's something I have experience with I will be happy to oblige. Thanks so much.
  7. Thevocalist


    Hey there! I just want to show you this website that has a bunch of free vocal exercises. Ive been using them for a couple of weeks now and they are really good! here it is:
  8. Hey everybody, I am relatively new to this site and am still trying work out where certain posts go and such, so I apologize in advance if this is not the correct section but... At the moment I am really struggling with singing as neck/throat tension etc seem to be a big obstacle for me. I have searched all over YouTube trying to find a method I can use to reduce but after trying many of the warmups/stretches, I still feel a tight tug on my muscles when I tried and go out of my comfortable range. So that brings me to the question: Does anybody know an effective method of reducing it? This probably sounds like quite an stupid/basic question but I have minimal experience with trained singing and techniques used professionally. But I am hoping to have lessons after Christmas so that is something to look forward to! I have also been wondering about doing the Rate my Singing thing on this website but I'm that people will think I'm too young as I am in mid-teens. Thank you for reading!
  9. I'm practicing with a straw. My voice teacher suggested a stirring straw, and I bought one, but it's really small! It is difficult to get any air out. Is that the idea? Is the smaller the better? Not sure what is optimal when practicing the straw technique.
  10. Kevin Ashe

    Paul Rogers on his range

    I'd appreciate hearing some of youz guys's perspectives on Paul Rogers comments in this interview. I'm sure everyone would agree with his comments about "warming up" however, he makes an interesting comment about "his range," and then still manages to really avoid answering the question. Personally, I'm convinced he simply doesn't know the answer yet, he does offer the good warm up advice. The actual question is: "why do some singers lose their upper range as they age, and some don't?" -That's point #1, point #2 is, what about the interesting answer he gives regarding "feeling the song" in order to confidently sing the high notes in it. There are a few singers who don't seem in possession of the range they commanded in the prime of their career: i.e. Perry, Plant, Elton vs. other singers who are still going strong past their career peak: i.e. Rogers, Tyler, Elefante, Mickey Thomas, Tony Bennett, etc. the question is asked around 22:30
  11. Peleg Carmeli

    Questions about vocals

    Hi.. I am new here.. Im working about singing on my own and i realy improve my vocal.. Some questions: 1. I dont know if im a tenor or bariton yet, i found an easy exercise that makes my vocal sounds deeper and warmer, can it disturb my high notes? Can i change from a tenor to bariton? (If im a tenor) maybe this exercis is just a littel warm up for the low notes i dont know.. 2. If i sing and i can feel my sound in my nose, not in the chest and not in the head is it a mixed voice? 3. I heard thom york from radiohead when he was young and i heard his voice now and there are a lot of differences in his voice.. (In youtube) can someone explain to me please why his voice changed like that? 4. My vocal range can become smaller when i grow old ? I am 22 by the wayThank you for your help
  12. OK, so I've been realising that my singing voice is much more present, connected and fuller after a workout at the gym. The workouts aren't cardio based though, I rarely do cardio, it's either free weights or machine work. My voice just feels a lot better after a workout for like an hour than when ever I do a vocal warm up. My chest connects to my head without breaks, head voice is sharper, fry is better, my mix hits the sweet spot better. Just everything feels a lot overall better! Now, I understand that my blood flow is increased and I'm creating a pressure within myself to brace when pushing and pulling weights which in result could be helping warm up my voice. But why is this so much better than when I do a usual vocal "workout"? I do some pretty intense stuff when I work on my voice, obviously start off with simple stuff to wake my voice up and then get into chest stuff, head stuff and lastly mix stuff, but I don't get the level of connectivity as I do after a workout.
  13. So today I just realized, that I have access to my whistle voice. I was just trying to make high sounds in head voice (as usual). And whenever I made sounds quietly, I was able to reach notes that I would have a hard time with, if I sang them louder (which for a little while, I have wondered. That why is it when I sing quieter, I can reach higher notes). Right now, the highest I can go in head voice is a D6. And I can't even reach it with proper technique. I have to use lip rolls, to reach it. But when I made sounds quietly, I was able to reach an F6, G6, and higher sounds, but they were very quiet, and they were only squeaks. So that's how I came to the realization, that I have access to my whistle voice, and that I have been using my whistle voice, to make those high sounds. So do you guys have any tips for improving at whistle voice? Btw, I know that to improve one's vocal range, they need to work on making their mid range notes better first. So, I know that.
  14. Rosa

    No warm up

    I found an article that said warm ups don't have to be obligatory (or something). It also said the best thing is Steam. Do you use steam often? (I'll keep trying to find the article; can't see it now). I abused my throat again, this time overusing it. I am now considering that perhaps I won't need to warm up to sing in falsetto. How do you see it? I am just resting now. Edit: I've finally found the article (looks interesting to me):
  15. I just got back from the studio. We recorded probably 95% of the instruments and its sounding really cool. I'm going back tomorrow to record vocals and do some touch ups on the instruments. I have 2 hours scheduled just for vocals. Any tips to prepare my voice for the studio? Any foods to stay away from or to go towards? I am going to Denny's that morning along with go karting and bowling right after. Any preperation recommendations to get a rockin vocal?
  16. Hi Folks, It has been a while since my last post. This time I wanted to do something that is quite different from my last song(s). I have always wanted to do distortion at lower ranges. I just could not find the right support mechanism and way to do this without hurting myself. I have understood how to do this safely without injuring myself. Sometimes when I am not yet sufficiently warmed up I get a itchy feeling when I try to distort. If I am careful, it goes away after a while. I am assuming that I am not doing anything wrong because I can sing like this for more than an hour and I don't feel any effects later in the day or the next day. All in all, quite a fun song to sing with an epic sounding F#5 to finish it. I wish I could get some grit on this note, but for the time being happy with where I am!
  17. Felipe Carvalho

    Warm Ups and Rudimentary Controls

    Hi, In my own experience and what I observe on most training content I come across, warm up routines seem to center mainly around pitch control coordination, while other aspects like registration and intensity vary from approach to approach but are more or les fixed, with many beliefs in regards to what is the correct way to do it, but to a large extent ignoring their control which in my opinion are, to say the least, just as important. This is something that I have been experimenting with on myself and on some singers that work with me, and it seem to make the workflow more efficient, specially for training and aquiring the since it allows for a better perception/awareness of the different controls possible prior to the work on technique itself. The idea is centered around the following fundamental controls: - Pitch regulation; - Intensity regulation; - Basic Registration; Prior to the work, I recommend strongly to work a bit on breathing and relaxation exercises, in special pacing down the breath cycle and making it smoother and relaxed, also yawning and neck stretch/rolls. When you feel calm and ready, then you begin. For these exercises, any kind of occluded phonation should work, as long as you are comfortable with it. Properly executed tongue trills usually are best since they cause more vibrations and they help relaxing the vocal tract, can be a bit tricky at first. Lip bubbles should do the job too. You could use a tube into a water too. But whatever the exercise, I recommend using something that creates vibrations. So with the occluded exercise, and in a very relaxed/comfortable manner. Start a note, using an underlying vowel that is easy for you ( I suggest OO/UH) and work on this manner: - Do the exercise freely exploring the different aspects: do a trill exploring pitch, then exploring intensity , then changing registers from full to falsetto. Don't aim to control things with independency yet let it go wild if it wants to, as long as you can identify the control, its fine. In regards to Pitch and intensity, just try to explore your comfortable limits, so that you know how low is your low pitch, how high is your high pitch, and how loud are your soft and strong voice. Registration might be tricky to identify properly, if so, do a yodel, and notice the switch, this is what you want to get a grasp. If it still doesnt work, produce a quite loud note on your low voice, and ascend in pitch keeping it all relaxed and without letting effort/intensity rise, it will eventually break (this change is what you want). Guys can mimic a girls voice, or Bee Gees, and identify the "switch" that happens. Once this is done, and you should not take more than 3 minutes doing it, work for control in this manner: - Pitch: Do the trills coming from a low tone comfortable in your voice and slowly ascending in pitch, keeping it comfortable and not forcing. Don't worry about intensity (let it vary if its the case), don't worry about registers (if it breaks, awesome!). - Intensity: Do the trills starting at a soft volume and progressively increase it, letting whatever happens to the register happen, dont worry about breaks, and don't worry about keeping the pitch controlled, let it wander too. - Register: Produce a note on your lower voice, and deliberately break it, letting whatever you need to do in regards to pitch/intenisty happen. Just break, if it ends higher in pitch and quiet, no problem. Then do the opposite, do a note in falsetto and switch back to your full voice. Make sure you flip! These are the rudimentary controls, also don't overdo, 3/4 minutes doing this should be enough, and keep it comfortable/relaxed. Then start working on independency: Fix Intensity, and vary pitch, letting whatever happens to the registers happen (if it breaks, great!). I recommend using a middle of the way volume, and then doing slides in pitch, up and down slowly. Again keep it comfortable, keep it easy. Also explore what happens on higher and softer intensities. Fix pitch, and vary intensity, letting the register do whatever it wants (dont worry about breaks!). I recommend using a pitch in your comfortable mid-range, and also progressively increasing and decreasing intensity. After that, explore what happens as you go higher and lower in pitch. Fix register, and vary pitch. While keeping within the same register, slide pitch up and down, letting intensity do whatever it wants to do. Do it both on full voice and falsetto. Fix register, and vary intensity. While keeping within the same register, go soft, and then loud, progressively varying the intensity. Do it both on full vice and falsetto. Fix pitch and vary the register, which means you will need to use a tone in the middle of your range and break the registratoin on the same note deliberately. This is a bit tricky, dont aim to make quality smooth, let the intensity change. Just break and stay on the same pitch. Fix intensity and vary the register, find a middle level intensity on your full voice, in the low range, and break it into falsetto at the same level of intensity. This is a bit tricky too, you WILL need a pitch jump to go from low voice to falsetto at a same intensity level. Again no goals regarding consistent quality. Here there should be some notable differences in relation to the tradional warm ups we are used to, I stress that you need to keep comfortable and relaxed. Dont overdo and don't take too long. Finally, in this specific order: Fix register and pitch, vary intensity - Begin by falsetto! Make sure you stay in falsetto, use a pitch that you are comfortable with, and slowly go from soft to loud, then back to soft. Explore the pitch area, notice what happens to your dynamic capability as you go lower in pitch and don't let the register transition to full voice (you wont be able to get loud!). Then do the same on full voice, and pay attention so that the same coordination you use to control intensity in falsetto is what you use to control intensity in full voice. Fix register and itensity, vary pitch - Means that within full voice AND within falsetto, you will set a level of intensity and make sure you stick to it through the exercise as you vary pitch gliding slowly. Respect your comfortable limits, pay attention to intensity regulation and do the exercise first at medium volume, then loud, then soft. Fix intensity and pitch, vary register - Means that you will pick a note on your mid range that you can do with considerable volume on both registers, and flip back and forth without letting pitch and intensity vary. This must be done comfortably and relaxed. Dont choose intensity levels that are too high at first, the softer you are, the lower in pitch the exercise will be possible. I know I said this more than once here (actually once every phrase most likely), but when I say comfortable, easy and relaxed, I mean it. Don't exercise aiming to produce quality or be perfect. Do these aiming to relax and to explore and identify these different controls, look for awareness. Going super loud, smooth or high is not the point. Also don't take too long, you should not take more than 20 minutes in this whole routine. And this is not a good idea to use when you are sick. You will notice no exercise trying to "connect" anything is done, mainly because "connecting" is not a laryngeal function but a situation that you will create by using these three coordinations with skill. And doing it on a lip bubble is not so relevant on the context of training for singing. I will make a video demonstrating it later today. I would really like to know: The results and effects on your voice, specially going from it into singing and into technique practice. If you feel the routine itself made you improve. If you have ever worked with a similar mindset with your teacher/training routines. Felipe
  18. Hi,I am a Computing Science Student at Staffordshire University, I am currently completing my final year project which will be a Vocal Warm Up application for the Windows Phone platform, below I have included the abstract of my report to add context, please do note however that this is likely to be reworded and is a draft in its current state,"The objective of this project is ultimately to create a vocal warm up mobile application, which will assist singers of all levels to properly warm up before singing. The following report details research into specific areas around mobile application development and vocal warm up exercises, it will be used to support design decisions which are made and the development platform which is used. I believe there is currently a gap in the market for such an application, specifically within the Microsoft Windows Phone environment as there are few apps available to users which provide similar features as proposed in the scope of the project."As part of the research element of my report I have created a survey posted on Survey Monkey and would greatly appreciate it if you could take 2 minutes to complete it, the link can be found below, you have any further feedback I would greatly appreciate an email at
  19. averagesinger

    vocal scales to practice

    i have searched a lot to get vocal scales to practice but im not so sure about it so would u please suggest me some samples of these scales scales i need are double octave scale and 3 octave scale i would also like what a long scale i would like to get some samples so than i can play and practice thank you
  20. Hey guys, I've been off the map lately, a lot going on. I had a question/thoughts on the topic of how we train our voices and train students. I have a keyboard controller that runs a piano program in protools, sounds nice. That's how I train singers and how I work myself out. This past week I have been in Las Vegas rehearsing for a show I am going to be a sub guitarist for (Rock Of Ages), we've been doing all the blocking on stage but we have been running the parts in a piano room backstage. It has a nice black lacquer Yamaha upright piano. I have to tell you I did vocal warmups with it and sang better then I do with the keyboard. It was real, resonant and inspiring. It was very different then hearing a piano coming through studio monitors. So many of the great teachers I have trained with used real pianos. So I just wanted to get you guys feedback. Also I am moving to Nashville September 1st and really want to reestablish myself as a top tier vocal coach and am considering buying a piano. So what do you guys think? Who's on a real piano vs keyboard/DAW controller? P.S. On a side note, as a lot of you guys know I got very sick with pneumonia in October 2014, took months to get better. And I really blew my voice out coughing. The journey back has been slow but steady. I have been singing a lot during the process which at times has made it difficult. Well about a month ago I realized I wasn't really fully healing, my falsetto was still not all the way there and it had been 8 months since the onset of the illness. So after 2 doctor visits and 3 ENT scopings over the last 6 months (where everyone said my vocal cords were perfect) I set up an appointment at Duke University Otolaryngology Department. What a great place and I met with the best of the best there. When he scoped my left nostril I saw white sores all the way down to my throat. I was like 'What the hell is that?'. The doctor said it was a severe and chronic sinus infection, that to his eyes looked to be maybe a year old. I had it the whole time and no one saw it. He also said it was so bad that it morphed into a fungal infection that settled on my left cord and made the cord not want to vibrate. Hence that was what was causing my singing issues. So he put me on a 14 day, very aggressive medication treatment, Amoxicillin, Prednisone and the anti fungal medicine Flocasson (sp?), he also had me on 14 days no singing (I only had 2 gigs I had to do, other then that no singing and little talking) and he sent me to an awesome Speech Therapist. It has been 1 month, I started singing for the first time 2 days ago and my voice is f**kin back! Hell yeah. Sounds and feels great. Endless top end again. The reason I tell you guys this is sometimes in life what we think is our greatest deficit becomes our greatest asset, This experience has been excruciating but I have learned more about the human voice in the last 6 months then I did in 25 years of studying and teaching. It wasn't until my ass was on the line till I really felt the full scope of what my professional students have to do to keep themselves in fighting condition so to speak. So in the end all is good. I am ready to sing and teach! maybe with a piano...
  21. Hi There! I am struggling to keep my voice alive! I work split shifts as a children's entertainer 6 days a week, i present childrens gameshows and other activities during the day, i call bingo etc and then 5 days a week i perform a different 45 minute show each day, and sometimes more when i have to visit our sister park to cover for their vocalist. Now i know there's not a lot wrong with what im doing singingwise, i have spent time talking to my teachers and the support is there and im singing in the right place, i think where i'm struggling is with the talking and presenting. I spend large amounts of time talking to guests over loud music and presenting is turning into a killer for me! is there anything anyone can suggest to keep my speaking voice from affecting my singing voice? Much appreciated! Penny xxx
  22. aravindmadis

    Warm up from chest voice

    Hi Folks, I have been working on my technique over the last weeks. For the first time in my life, I enrolled with a teacher. Since there is a paucity of good western classical teachers where I live, I decided to go to a Hindustani vocal coach(traditional Indian music). For the last two weeks, I only do scales with "Sa Re Ga Ma", which is Indian equivalent of "Do Re Me" My vocal warm up is entirely in the C3 to C4 region only. I do this in the mornings for an hour. I am frankly surprised at the results. Despite warming up only my chest voice I can feel tension free voice in my entire vocal range after that. I am able to lose weight and this has helped both my pitch accuracy as well as my bridging. Why is it that warm up in the chest voice frees up the voice in the entire vocal range? It seems to work for me, but I want to ensure that this is the right thing to do..
  23. We all know that warming up is very important to our singing careers, but how can we do this when people don't understand or apreciate warming up? If I am at home alone or with family i can warm up and make funny noises because they understand the importance of it. However, if i have friends over most of them dont sing so they wont let me warm up they think i should just sing and that warming up is only for opera singers. My one friend who does sing also feels the same way and refuses to warm up. Whenever we are together and we feel like writting and playing music together he will always refuse to warm up. he says rock singers dont warm up. this frustrates me because it makes it very hard for me to sing in public or at camps because the people around me look down on warming up and singing becomes very difficult for me if I don't. what are some ways you can warm up in around people that look down on warmups?
  24. Singaporesling

    New and excited to learn

    Hey guys , I am new here ( obviously) i have played the guitar on/off for 10 years now I tried singing at one point ( when beginning) and basically stopped and never tried it again the past year I have been playing a lot more and reading / investigating how to get better ( scales chords theory) only what I could understand , so a week ago I had few drinks before getting home , I've always wanted to sing songs like glycerine , Daniel (fuel) , wish you were here basically the songs I learnt starting off . And a bunch of songs in Spanish like ballads and such. So I got home early and was practicing guitar and I started yo invent a game on the guitar to keep active / going and not give up on this try after many years of blacklisting singing from guitar play. so I started on the 12 fret e string then 2nd fret e string going back and forth and I would IM A SHARK (back and forth) IM A SHARK IM HUUNGRY IM HUUUNGRY then I added a turtle for the b string and he would just WIIIIIIIIII...WIIIIIII......WIIIIIIIII , IMA TUUUURTLE sliding up and down the string enjoying his swim so the shark would belch/scream and the turtle scream his iiiiiis . the shark would then bounce from octave to octave hunting the turtle for lunch, when he ate the turtle he would go back to his home spot . The 2nd and 4th fret of the e string (brass) one. And then change his voice to still screaming I AM THE KING OF MY ZONE I AM THE ALPHA SHARK ( proud of his hunt) he sounded kind of like a Dracula type of voice . So for a while I would have those 3 characters with different tones do what they do , to change tones or whatever I integrated indecisive killer whale ,megaton shark ( he barred the EAD the game was for I have no clue , but it opened up something inside me . I was doing that for 6 hours none stop. i always thought singing was something your born with and during one hours I notice a change , how? Of all the little mini games I made what worked what didn't I don't know. So when I noticed a change I would try a song , see a positive difference compared to my normal murmur murmur whatever I do. I then added sum41 guy, so he would randomly sing one of his songs how sum 41 does , while I would play notes in a certain scale around the fretboard. When he would mess up I took away a 1 and now sum40 was made , and he sings louder and try's harder to get his 1 back. Sum40 trying hard to get back to 41. So my night started to get interesting in the way of my voice is better than 6 hours ago. i started to remember all the songs I wanted to sing and gave them a try , it was not oooolooooolooo good but I could tell someone was brewing in my throat , chest , breathing heres where I can't describe in words i felt I would kind of pocket inside my body/throat longer signings of the AAAAs and OOOOs And iiiiiiiiiis, my terminology is not good sorry I felt my neck muscular stronger ... Super sore , the next day I screeched normal talk. it was awesome. So I go to sleep all excited and brainstorming how my playing is going to change no? i have it I kept telling my self , obviously with more work to be done , but yeaaaah it's here , it felt like a machine with gears and the straps circulating around the motor all working together , feeling control over it . So I awake and sing the songs I tried the night before, and nothing . I didn't know why it went away no all dramatically and all. So immediately what am I doing wrong , I tried replaying the game but my memory was kind of not that good , I thought I had to do it exactly as I did , I remembered battleship shark/turtle/megaton shark , and other things I did but not the whole 6 hours. basically that story was shared for you so you could get a picture of my experience. And now to bombard questions 1. Does a beginner singer need a practice routine or warm up to get a better sound? or do you just randomly a the Os and iiiiii the iiiis then add a vowel before another? I noticed when my throat felt like I wanted to scratch it from the inside I sang better. 2. Should I put a goal of sat a song in mind to shoot for each session. ? Or is a couple better to not repeat parts you can't reach and spread out more. i remember after 5-10 battles between newly allocated megaton shark and no second in line on the food chain shark, I paused , then tried a song out, then back to shark turtle hunt , then a song if someone here could guide me to a helpful link it would be awesome . Thank you