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before anything let me just say I'm new here and it's kind of bad to start already asking a question, but I'll definitely be a around a lot, some users on a music production forum guided me here so i'll use this one for singing discussion! (I tried searching for a thread on this and I didn't get anything)

now, this is something that I have literally lost sleep over, I have, multiple times got out of bed in the middle of the night telling myself like "it's now, I'll learn how to do it right now" that's how desperate I am.

I'm 22 and I've been singing since i was 14/16 and even though i don't have a huuuge range, I'm a tenor, and I do have a pretty consistent and strong, present, powerful voice, really clean too, and I've never been able to sing like what made me want to learn how to sing which was when I heard "Morphine", by Michael Jackson. I can sing that whole song, belting those notes, everything, but it comes out clean, I can't get raspy iike that.

He already had started using that grunt voice on Bad, but not to the level of Dangerous, and definitely not to the level of Morphine and that's exactly what I want to do. A lot of people tell me you just get it with age, with wearing your voice down, but I just can't believe it, there must be a way because Michael could switch it on and off (check Chicago, for example).

I think one of the problems is that I don't fully understand what's going on. He can get that distortion going at really lower volumes (or appear to be low) and I can't understand how that happens. On "Morphine" he is singing the in the same range in both the verses and chorus, but in the chorus he sings it clean...?

Any tips? Is there anything on the 4 Pillars program that could help me achieve it?

Thanks in advance, really appreciate it!

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Hey Thugger... Yes, training with "4Pillars" can help you for sure. But we need to get more specific. Why don't you schedule a consultation / lesson with me and Ill work with you on that. Here is the link to schedule a consultation, or if you purchase "The Four Pillars of Singing", Ill give you a free introductory lesson.

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before anything let me just say I'm new here and it's kind of bad to start already asking a question, but I'll definitely be a around a lot, some users on a music production forum guided me here so i'll use this one for singing discussion! (I tried searching for a thread on this and I didn't get anything)

now, this is something that I have literally lost sleep over, I have, multiple times got out of bed in the middle of the night telling myself like "it's now, I'll learn how to do it right now" that's how desperate I am.

I'm 22 and I've been singing since i was 14/16 and even though i don't have a huuuge range, I'm a tenor, and I do have a pretty consistent and strong, present, powerful voice, really clean too, and I've never been able to sing like what made me want to learn how to sing which was when I heard "Morphine", by Michael Jackson. I can sing that whole song, belting those notes, everything, but it comes out clean, I can't get raspy iike that.

He already had started using that grunt voice on Bad, but not to the level of Dangerous, and definitely not to the level of Morphine and that's exactly what I want to do. A lot of people tell me you just get it with age, with wearing your voice down, but I just can't believe it, there must be a way because Michael could switch it on and off (check Chicago, for example).

I think one of the problems is that I don't fully understand what's going on. He can get that distortion going at really lower volumes (or appear to be low) and I can't understand how that happens. On "Morphine" he is singing the in the same range in both the verses and chorus, but in the chorus he sings it clean...?

Any tips? Is there anything on the 4 Pillars program that could help me achieve it?

Thanks in advance, really appreciate it!

Well, one thing that's noteworthy to acknowledge is where he got the desire to do that from. James Brown has been MJ's idol since the beginning of his singing career.

 

Here's a great compilation with the technique you're trying to achieve being showcased by Michael Jackson, Beyonce and others:

 

The explanation near the beginning may or may not be correct. I believe that technique is often referred to as a "squawl". It's very popular in black gospel. Check out the gospel singers 57 seconds in.

The preachers in black Christian churches often talk like this. Here's another example, skip to 3:48:

 

 

 

 

 

Notice he starts preaching, using that exact same raspy texture. This continues on throughout the video. This is the norm.

That's something that's learned. It's not some naturally occurring stuff, that you either can or can't do, like some people will have you believe. :lol:

 

 

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