D.Starr Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 So I've been trying to sing this ong by Chris Brown off one of his mixtapes called Touch Your Ankles. The area seems on the edge of his chest voice but he manages to hit it so effortlessly. Yes I understand he has gone through rigorous amounts of practice, I just simply wondered if there was any way you guys could help me understand how he hits it and what note he hits. The part start at 00:45. The phrase is "Imagine taking trips to Paris. Anything that you want. Girl I get it" So ways to reach that note. Belt? Curb? Overdrive? The note he hits. See I think it's A4/A#4. Which I can comfortable do in Head/Falsetto. But I wish to achieve it in chest, I know long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggplantbren Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Sounds like curbing to me. Lots of UH and I, which at that pitch has to be curbing. Also sounds like some possible autotune. That pitch will also resonate mostly in the head, so don't think of what you're going for as being "chest". Doing it in "head/falsetto" (neutral) is probably closer to the right approach, but you will need to add some cry to get out of the neutral sound. Disclaimer: I can't do this consistently, it's just what I've been told, and occasionally am able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Sounds like curbing to me. Lots of UH and I, which at that pitch has to be curbing. Also sounds like some possible autotune. That pitch will also resonate mostly in the head, so don't think of what you're going for as being "chest". Doing it in "head/falsetto" (neutral) is probably closer to the right approach, but you will need to add some cry to get out of the neutral sound. Disclaimer: I can't do this consistently, it's just what I've been told, and occasionally am able to do. Thank you very much. I've been studying the recording of the studio session. It's been bugging me since ever time I do it, I'm straining to reach it possibly because I'm not using curbing and singing more in chest also. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4407958 That is the recorded session. The bit I questioned was 05:30. It does sound strained or in a way "Curbed" to what little knowledge I know. I'm gunna sieve through this CVT and learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 D.Starr - that definitely sounds like curbing to me. Mostly on the F#4 going up to A4 at the highest. In the live studio you can hear his voice breaking up slightly on the G#4. You can for sure sing this in this area of your voice (and not in head/neutral/falsetto) if you train to go into the passagio at around E4 and above. This would take only a few weeks or a couple months to develop this properly. But you need some help with the aid of good instructional video or a teacher, and some patience. If you are straining to hit these notes you aren't doing it right, or, you just haven't developed this part of your voice yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 I've had bad experiences with 2 teachers. Simply showing up, warming up, singing 2 songs (the same each week) and then leaving. He taught me nothing. I've learnt more from forums and CDs. I know it's wrong to base all teachers off these 2 but it affects the way you perceive them. I'ma try and study this area of curbing, I've heard a few R&B artists using it now that I've read a little bit about it. R&B is my preferred music so hopefully I can manipulate it to my voice. One problem is finding exercises on the internet for learning the passagio. I have Singing Success and CVT but thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 D.Starr - I know what you mean about teachers. You've got to have one that will teach you the right way to sing in the passagio area, with specific workout excersizes. I learned from the KTVA videos. I expanded my usable range significantly. More than I did with any teacher I had before. Robert teaches bridging too. Taking a internet lesson from one of these guys would give you a jump start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 22, 2011 Administrator Share Posted January 22, 2011 Thanks Guitartrek... ya, I really hate to say this... but there are a LOT of mediocre teachers out there and a few just "bad" ones. Sounds to me like your had a teacher that didnt care. Im one of the best in teaching bridging on the planet. I would love to have the opportunity to help you get it straight once and for all. It means you will need to invest in some of the TVS workouts and take some internet lessons with me. I have a package that gets you 3, 1 hour lessons and the complete digital download of "the four pillars of singing" for $250. Its a deal that is about $96 off the regular pricing for my products and services and is for first time clients to help them to come on board. www.thevocaliststudio.com/internet-lessons. Here is a video that provides a sample of one of the most important workouts we drill at TVS in the beginning to train Passagio bridging, enjoy and hope to see you soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grkoc0kTqFw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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