It Doesn't Matter How Hard you Try to Sing High...

[Gsoul82]

If you're doing it wrong. I tried for years to match these guys who were up in tenor range, because a lot of guys I listened to were tenors. I couldn't do it without flipping into falsetto and ending up with a completely different tone. I finally start working with somebody who knows and not only do I find I'm getting up in that range, I find out that I'm a tenor! After believing for 8 years that I'm a baritone. I got several opinions on that. Some thought I was a baritone, some weren't sure. It just goes to show that it doesn't matter how many times you do something or how hard you try if you're doing it wrong. Failure does not mean you can't do something. An important lesson.

[Robert Lunte]

Geoff!!!! 

[MDEW]

On 10/17/2018 at 5:59 PM, Gsoul82 said:

If you're doing it wrong. I tried for years to match these guys who were up in tenor range, because a lot of guys I listened to were tenors. I couldn't do it without flipping into falsetto and ending up with a completely different tone. I finally start working with somebody who knows and not only do I find I'm getting up in that range, I find out that I'm a tenor! After believing for 8 years that I'm a baritone. I got several opinions on that. Some thought I was a baritone, some weren't sure. It just goes to show that it doesn't matter how many times you do something or how hard you try if you're doing it wrong. Failure does not mean you can't do something. An important lesson.

This is really a great post G. So many people struggle for years to reach their goal or just to maintain a melody in some pleasing form. I feel your pain and frustration from trying new ideas on your own or following tips from youtube. Sure you can make gains and learn a few things but getting proper instruction from someone who has gone through the steps and came out the other side with a voice that they can be proud of and truly feel like they have something to offer to the listener instead of just wondering if they sound ok  is a totally different experience.

[Gsoul82]

12 minutes ago, Lord Zefron said:

Fasseto is a breathy tone surly you dont mean head voice or otherwise you are doing it all wrong. exersises in call mode is the best aproch if you want to build your range though

Hey Cats, missed you, man

[MDEW]

8 minutes ago, Lord Zefron said:

Fasseto is a breathy tone surly you dont mean head voice or otherwise you are doing it all wrong. exersises in call mode is the best aproch if you want to build your range though

Lord, That is part of what led to this post. If you do not know how to tell if you are breathy or not or you do not know "How" to use call mode or any other type of voice production you can struggle for years thinking you are doing everything right and you still cannot make gains. Sometimes it takes someone else to listen to you to know whether you are actually in "Call Mode" or if you are trying to add too much air to get "Louder". It is not just saying "HEY" as loud as you can that puts you in call mode.

[Gsoul82]

How'd you get that bar on the left in Windows 10? Are you using a tablet?

Anyways, to stay on topic, yeah, I heard about call mode. Sometimes it takes a hands-on lesson with good people to make sure you're doing things properly.

[Adolph Namlik]

21 hours ago, Lord Zefron said:

No I am a computer hacker by day and a forum spammer by night (good post there about our freind silly little man, still fooling him self year on after year with his second passagio break LOL).  and funny enough it was myself Lord Zefron who posted that shite about silly littl man

 

 

You posted as 'Nordic Being' and it wasn't "funny" or humorous. That post and your comments were insulting to another member, the moderators, and the founder of this forum.

Kindly refrain from any further posts of that nature. 

 

 

[Gsoul82]

3 hours ago, Lord Zefron said:

No I am a computer hacker by day and a forum spammer by night (good post there about our freind silly little man, still fooling him self year on after year with his second passagio break LOL).  and funny enough it was myself Lord Zefron who posted that shite about silly littl man

 

Any road to stay on topic, it takes a lot of lessons and study and practice to master this

Contempory singing modes classifaction, 4 types, Breathy (fasseto to you), whimpey, wing/ wine, call (or belt to you)

can not explain them well in words but there are sources out on the next that might help with videos. But best find a teacher who understands this classification and can demonstrate this to you and then you can practice the modes over a set of scales. had this tuition myself but still bolexed it up for months on after

 

Did you ever work out if you where a Baritone or Tenor, I wonder if there is a test for this

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, lol. I had to get lessons and have somebody tell me. I don't remember all that we did, but there were a bunch of things we did to test the voice out. I was always much more about how to do stuff rather than how everything works. All I thought made somebody a baritone or a tenor is that they just naturally had a low voice or a high voice; it was just whatever came out. I'd see some debates here and I never went back and forth because I didn't have much of an opinion. We did some exercises and he (the coach) commented on how I went into the higher range. By higher range, I mean the 5th octave. There was some "ease" to the way I approached it. Then we kept testing things and where I bottomed out (about a G2), I was told, was around where tenors bottom out. I had no idea, but that was true for some of the tenors whose ranges I knew. So, essentially, what was being said was that the way I approached the 5th octave, when using proper technique, made me a tenor. I had nothing to compare it to, of course, because I wouldn't know the way it feels to go into the 5th octave when you're a baritone if I'm not a baritone to begin with. It all made sense though. I thought for 8 years that I was a high baritone, then I found out I was a tenor when I applied the proper technique. It's amazing how easy things can be when you do them right, lol.