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Same here, how do you actually buy the program? There's just an image with a couple lines of text about it but no price or purchasing info on the lessons page. Am I missing something? There are a couple tracks on Jaime Vendera's RYV program from him that I found to be pretty helpful.

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well, james is kind of just there...he's a real no nonsense, this is how i do it, kind of guy. basics...but i've gotten quite a bit out of it i think because it appeals to those who really want to work hard. nothing fancy, just hard work. kinda like when rocky trained for his underdog fights....lol!!!

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I've got it Bob but I've only been doing the tongue out and the witchy (or pharyngeal as they're called by James) exercises which

have opened new doors for me ; I'd never been able to produce any other kind of voice other than neutral/non breathy regular voice.

Great stuff, I'm grateful for those exercises.

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well, james is kind of just there...he's a real no nonsense, this is how i do it, kind of guy. basics...but i've gotten quite a bit out of it i think because it appeals to those who really want to work hard. nothing fancy, just hard work. kinda like when rocky trained for his underdog fights....lol!!!

Did Rocky fight Riff Raff???

Oh, wait, wrong Underdog.

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I've got it Bob but I've only been doing the tongue out and the witchy (or pharyngeal as they're called by James) exercises which

have opened new doors for me ; I'd never been able to produce any other kind of voice other than neutral/non breathy regular voice.

Great stuff, I'm grateful for those exercises.

i love the tongue outs too. i like the pace of the workout too, and his words of encouragement and all during the exercises.

ever try roger kain's program?

he's great because he trains you to survive the real world of touring and all. his exercises are really demanding and address strenthening the lower area (diaphagm, and all that).

very controversial methods...like starting out your vocal workout with full voiced may, may, arpeggios and not rising into head register.

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i love the tongue outs too. i like the pace of the workout too, and his words of encouragement and all during the exercises.

ever try roger kain's program?

he's great because he trains you to survive the real world of touring and all. his exercises are really demanding and address strenthening the lower area (diaphagm, and all that).

very controversial methods...like starting out your vocal workout with full voiced may, may, arpeggios and not rising into head register.

I got his books after reading one of your posts actually. I listened to the exercises once and even tried a couple but I got scared lol that's fierce stuff

However, I'm really glad I got them, 'cause that's what I imagine myself ending up exercising to - for the time being I'm undoing my push/strain/shout and God be with you technique...

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I got his books after reading one of your posts actually. I listened to the exercises once and even tried a couple but I got scared lol that's fierce stuff

However, I'm really glad I got them, 'cause that's what I imagine myself ending up exercising to - for the time being I'm undoing my push/strain/shout and God be with you technique...

he's got some light stuff on the other cd, but yeah he really pushes you. me, i like that

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I checked out his website and there are snippets from a radio interview where he specifically addresses the environment of a working, touring singer. It's one thing to practice for an hour in an acoustically neutral practice room with only your voice being the loudest thing. It's another to be right in front of the drum kit in a smoky little bar with smashing glass from the barback, drunk rednecks yelling "Freebird!" and you barely got 5 hours of sleep between arriving in town and arriving for set-up and soundcheck. And the only thing you add to eat was some cold McNuggets and a soda. That is the working life of a singer. Not a few gigs at the Madison Square Garden, or, these days, Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Or the Whiskey A-Go-Go on Sunset Strip in Hollywood. And the Astrodome in Houston. Most of the work is in 4,000 sq, ft, clubs with pa systems built for cd players. And people smoking cigarettes, the smell of sweat, ass, vomit, booze, piss, you name it. And most hard-working bands started out carrying their equipment and setting it up themselves. Look at the documentary of the band Anvil. You drive to this place, set up your own equipment and sound check. Play your guts out, and the manager doesn't want to pay you. That's about the time I would turn into actor Bill Bixby. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." (from "The Incredible Hulk.")

And you've got to make your voice last through this mine-field for 8 months, at least, out of year, 3 to 5 nights a week. Regardless of colds, bad food, malnutrition, sleep happening in a cramped van, with the smell of 3 day old sweat from your bandmates. Rock and Roll ain't pretty. It's a grind.

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