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That's brilliant devaitis, well done. :)

The "dopey" sound people are complaining about, that is actually beautifully centered curbing. That's how it's supposed to sound in that part of the voice. In non-CVT terms.. you have found the resonance sweet spot for the type of sound you're using.

If I were to offer a tiny bit of advice (NOT critique), your vowels could be changed to ease production on the highest notes. Like "If I can face it again"... try directing it towards IH as in sit. For "Change this lonely life" - direct it towards O as in look. If that makes things any easier, please let me know! Otherwise just disregard.

Don't listen to anyone telling you to sound less dopy, it sounds great. Keep going man. Get comfortable with this sound before you try and change anything.

spectrum, that's is a better suggestion... "face direct to more "ih" than my suggestion "eh."

thank you. bob

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hey dev, i forgot to add this...here's another suggestion to help make that song a bit easier....when you sing "i want to know what love is" speed up just slightly when you get to the "love is" part....as if "love is" was one word...i find it helps launch it a little easier especially if you want to take that in a full voice set up. bob

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Thank you guys for replies. It means a lot for me. I feel like you and me was the one family :)

Thank you bob, jonpall and others.

That's very interesting how many effort is needed to achieve brilliant voice in passagio. Singing in chest area is quite simple for me, I can sing stronger, lighter, in easier way modify vowels. And when I need high - above f4, there is a lot of complication. Each and every song which use f#4 (and higher) is challenge for me!

Thank you.

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The "dopey" sound people are complaining about, that is actually beautifully centered curbing.

You are singing in curbing, yes.

That's how it's supposed to sound in that part of the voice.

Not quite. Curbing, and in fact all modes, can have a range of "sound colours". You're using a "dark" sound colour. Rob Halford often uses an extremely light one (in many different vocal modes, including curbing). So your way of doing curbing isn't THE correct way to do it. The way you're singing the high notes has a sound to it that's similar to speech level singing exercises, where they have a very dopy sound but not much twang. Not all SLS SING like that, though.

If I were to offer a tiny bit of advice (NOT critique), your vowels could be changed to ease production on the highest notes. Like "If I can face it again"... try directing it towards IH as in sit. For "Change this lonely life" - direct it towards O as in look. If that makes things any easier, please let me know! Otherwise just disregard.

Sounds like good advice.

Don't listen to anyone telling you to sound less dopy, it sounds great. Keep going man. Get comfortable with this sound before you try and change anything.

Ultimately it's YOU who decides how you want to sound and it's YOU who decides which people you want to listen to. But I can promise you that the majority of people in the world will think that your current sound is too "dopy/yawny/dark sound colour". The good news is that anyone can pretty easily fix that.

Does anyone else want to give their opinions of whether or not devaitis' sound is too dopy or not?

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Does anyone else want to give their opinions of whether or not devaitis' sound is too dopy or not?

It's all a matter of opinion, of course, but I would say yes. Just a bit.

I'd definitely bring the larynx up a bit. Not for the sake of sounding more like the original, but to make the most of his own voice and having it work for this song.

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I only want to say that song MAY be performed with kind of dopy sound. Why? When you have a listen Micheal Phelps version, you can hear beauty of classical dopy sound. But its of course not the way im going, only saying.....

Please listen to...... Michael Phelps "I want to know what love is" available 24h, sorry I have no copy and distribution rights.

http://www.box.net/shared/8r6v2lqsr0

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Not quite. Curbing, and in fact all modes, can have a range of "sound colours". You're using a "dark" sound colour.

Yeah, his sound colour is a little dark. But vowels are far more important than the sound colour, more specifically how they line up your formants and harmonics, and I believe devaitis is pretty much perfectly aligned for curbing. From what I have heard, centered curbing takes on an Irish accent of sorts, if that makes sense.

I'm not a teacher. Please take my posts as mere suggestions.

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