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sooooooo....i went to the e.n.t. this morning very raspy/phehgmee lately....he drops the camera down and tells me quote "you have an extremely tiny nodule." just what i wanted to hear.....gives me a 15-day script for prednizone, says it's okay to exercise, and tells me to see a speech therapist! no money for that, so i guess it's time to read another book...

bob has been a bad boy! too much "lou" work i guess. well, live and learn.

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For those who don't know, Prednisone is a corticosteroid usually prescribed, at least back in the 70's, to asthma patients. It's primary benefit is that it reduces swelling quickly.

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Hope you get well soon Bob. I know you'll be fine in no time if you take the doc's advice...

One question ... have you been doing warm ups and especially warm downs every time before and after singing ?

I'll be visiting my e.n.t soon..

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A nodule is basically a callus, like you get on your fingertips from playing guitar or on your hands from doing heavy work, such as I have done in construction for some decades. So, it's not whether or not warm-ups or warm-downs are being done, it's how they are being done that would be a factor, possibly. So, for example, in playing guitar, it doesn't matter whether I warm-up or down, the act of pressing my finger on strings and exerting enough pressure is what developes the callus. It's how and what an action is done.

Nodules can be reversed. First off, complete rest. Second, a different way of singing that does not need the hard contact that creates nodules.

Get well, Bob, and let us know how things are going.

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So, it's not whether or not warm-ups or warm-downs are being done, it's how they are being done that would be a factor, possibly. So, for example, in playing guitar, it doesn't matter whether I warm-up or down, the act of pressing my finger on strings and exerting enough pressure is what developes the callus. It's how and what an action is done.

You're quite right there... only I take for granted that the man knows how and what to do, my question is "did he do it ?"

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thanks folks.....yes, i always warm up and down.....but it think it's my "attitude" the kind of person i am...

for example, when i practise...i'm the kind of guy where i know i'm not supposed to, but i'll hear the scale notes going up to where i can't reach them and i'll be saying to myself "i'm still weak on the d5" let's say, and i'll try to reach it anyway instead of saying "leave it till next time, tomorrow's another day." i guess i was pushing too hard, but in my mind i didn't think i was.

i know my onsets are a little too severe especially when i'm practising hard driving songs. so i'm gonna drop down the severity a bit, and learn to produce more efficient onsets.

hey, i keep trying...

when i go out to sing, i really need to cut back and discipline myself. also, lately i've been making sure i include some chris isaak and lighter songs to give myself a chance to recuperate.

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thanks folks.....yes, i always warm up and down.....but it think it's my "attitude" the kind of person i am...

for example, when i practise...i'm the kind of guy where i know i'm not supposed to, but i'll hear the scale notes going up to where i can't reach them and i'll be saying to myself "i'm still weak on the d5" let's say, and i'll try to reach it anyway instead of saying "leave it till next time, tomorrow's another day." i guess i was pushing too hard, but in my mind i didn't think i was.

i know my onsets are a little too severe especially when i'm practising hard driving songs. so i'm gonna drop down the severity a bit, and learn to produce more efficient onsets.

hey, i keep trying...

when i go out to sing, i really need to cut back and discipline myself. also, lately i've been making sure i include some chris isaak and lighter songs to give myself a chance to recuperate.

Sorry to hear about the diagnosis. You'll be okay, just take it easy for a bit. I'm like you Bob. I WANT to get it right, so I keep trying to the point of tiredness.

Too bad steriods cause problems with long term use. I've had to use them a few times this year due to a bronchial thing I had. They sure do the trick.

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Sorry to hear about the diagnosis. You'll be okay, just take it easy for a bit. I'm like you Bob. I WANT to get it right, so I keep trying to the point of tiredness.

Too bad steriods cause problems with long term use. I've had to use them a few times this year due to a bronchial thing I had. They sure do the trick.

should i start pumping iron while i'm on them? lol!!!!

but seriously, i researched this a little more and it turns out the allergies themselves can contribute to nodes. reflux...boy oh boy!!

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I keep tellin ya, Lou will be the death of you! Get well!

i hear ya matt. i'm realizing i need to start backing off a bit. i ordered a book on speech therapy to improve my everyday talking with regard to my voice as well. i'm always having to talk the customers that are the room next to me and it's usually louder than it should be. i'm not convinced it was all from singing wrong, but rather a culmination of several factors.

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Speaking from my speech class experience, speech training could have one benefit that singing doesnt: you warm up the voice in the same way but since you dont have to worry about the melody or timing you can concentrate purely on the basic mechanics; the diaphragm as the motor, the vocal folds as the sensitive reeds etc

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Two different steroids.

Corticosteroids reducing swelling and inflammation but it can leave your immune system weak while you are on them.

Anabolic steroids are the ones some have taken to increase muscle size.

Good luck, Bob. I think you are on the right track, going lighter for a while. At least you still have a voice. I lost a good chunk of mine twice, from doing crap I had no business trying to do. Because I was an idiot and didn't trust my voice as it is. Well, even an intelligent guy can make mistakes. But the true mark of dedication is to not make the same mistake twice (at least, theoretically.) :lol:

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Oh yeah, the immunity deal- Be careful! I did this a few months ago from too much singing. Took the pills and within a week caught a serious bronchial virus that had me back on them.

Just be careful around sick folk.

yes, i heard about that. thanks bill.

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So, Bob, how's it going. I know from a recent thread in another section that Thanos' nodes turned out to be oedema, still serious but a better diagnosis.

So, I was wondering how you are getting along and how your recovery is going.

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