D.Starr Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 OK So from my recent visits to this forum and various readings from a few books, I've seen that in order to access those high end notes, which in my case I want to hit pass my break area (like us all, e4 and beyond). I recently read that because I have a Baritone quality to my voice I need to learn to bring down head voice and not pull chest voice, something I guess all singing types need to do because there is a limit as to how high it goes. Now I've tried curbing to get higher and I begin to force way too much, whining does access head voice at times but then I feel like I'm sounding too nasally and whiny. I know once I get a hold of this I can push it further and develop it. Something that will take time I know. But thinking about it deeply and looking at some posts I feel I need to strengthen my head voice that will , in my opinion strengthen my bridge area with the exercises I'm doing and help me to adduct the chords, but I'm still puzzled as to how I could hit an E4 and above say G4 with a more meaty quality like many R&B singers. Though I guess that would be curbing. I wanted to see if there were any opinions or exercises I could utilize that you may have used to adapt the passagio and hit those notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 there are several ways to go. are you using any particular program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 I have - Singing Success - Brett Manning's Managing the mix (Has chest, head and pharengeal exercises in there) - Singing for the stars - CVT - The Baritone voice EDIT Found this video, could this help in a way? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=398XfCsErzI&feature=related Kinda find it only works on compression, rather than lightening the tone. [b[EDIT Hmmm gave it a try I bring up too much chest It's a little late here in the UK so I'll probably upload a clip in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 are you skilled at bridging, but just want more meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 Hmm there are times when I do lip rolls and NG scales I can transition seamlessly, but when I vocalize I find a difficulty at times. I seem to carry up too much vocal mass, like chest voice at like e4 whic I know to be the break area. I know I could cry a little more to lighten the mass and add the hold but I feel I'm crying wrong if that makes sense, it makes it sound like I'm singing like a brat, or a witchy tone, not at all similar to the artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hmm there are times when I do lip rolls and NG scales I can transition seamlessly, but when I vocalize I find a difficulty at times. I seem to carry up too much vocal mass, like chest voice at like e4 whic I know to be the break area. I know I could cry a little more to lighten the mass and add the hold but I feel I'm crying wrong if that makes sense, it makes it sound like I'm singing like a brat, or a witchy tone, not at all similar to the artist. got something you can send over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 You feel like you are sounding too nasally? Sounds like psychology. Exactly what is too nasally. I find Chef Paula Deen to be to nasal. I find some french singers to be too nasal. Anyway, bringing head voice down is about keeping access to the head resonance cavities open as you descend in pitch. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Robert Lunte's program has a couple of exercises that'll work perfectly for you - in terms of lightening the weight of Chests voice and helping you bridge... Octave Sirens are a great tool.. I had exactly the same problem 2 months ago, and after 2 skype lessons with Robert it was taken care of! I am by no means a pro singer, but singing into my bridge with ease is always a good feeling!!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 got something you can send over? Yeah I'll see if I can warm up my voice real quick and et something recorded. You feel like you are sounding too nasally? Sounds like psychology. Exactly what is too nasally. I find Chef Paula Deen to be to nasal. I find some french singers to be too nasal. Anyway, bringing head voice down is about keeping access to the head resonance cavities open as you descend in pitch. Cheers. Yeah I seem to jam it upwards into my nose. Robert Lunte's program has a couple of exercises that'll work perfectly for you - in terms of lightening the weight of Chests voice and helping you bridge... Octave Sirens are a great tool.. I had exactly the same problem 2 months ago, and after 2 skype lessons with Robert it was taken care of! I am by no means a pro singer, but singing into my bridge with ease is always a good feeling!!! Cheers Are these similar to his melodic 5ths sirens? Just found a link on Youtube to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Melodic 5th sirens, Octave sirens, and a couple of other exercises that he talks about.. The important thing (and it sounds so obvious everytime someone says it!!) is to make sure the sound is being produced in exactly the same manner that he states - in terms of resonance, and placement. Otherwise the exercise is redundant.. lemme know if you need any more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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