let's take a poll

[VideoHere]

are there any folks out there who truly routinely, consistently, dilligently do vocal workouts and have been doing them for 6 mos. or more, who have not seen results or have not improved their voice?

[drew77]

At one point, I was doing singing success for at least 4-5 months consistantly..... it didn't really do anything for me because I wasn't doing the exercises right because I misinterpreted "singing should be as easy as speech"..... Singing takes effort..... Alot more than speech..... I didn't start making progress until I realized I needed to not just randomly do a set routine, but work on SPECIFIC problems through creative excercises (Songs, special scales w'specific vowels....etc....) I have found that just plugging away at scales doesn't really work....... You have to conciously CHANGE what your doing to get a different result.....otherwise you'll just get more of the same........

-Drew

[Mr Bounce]

No. If you practise consistently and be aware of: supporting well, reducing tension in the throat region, and relaxing mentally... You can't help but improve.

For example, just getting the CVT book has improved my voice. I've only had it for a couple weeks, but just reading it has helped me quite a lot actually. This leads me to believe that the psychology is very important. I used to think that singing a G above middle C (G4) was hard, but since CVT says you can sing any note in "Neutral" mode, I just do that... Then lean a bit harder and there is a G above middle C in a full voice.

I think working consistently is super important. But don't forget trying to push yourself and learn new things!

[VideoHere]

thanks for the input folks....i've been trying to get the message across since i joined the forum, that this stuff can be very tough at times. i personally think (my latest thinking) is that the mouth shapes.. use of the tongue lips, etc., used for everyday speech, particularly english, cannot be the same for the articulation needed to sing.

you cannot sing an "ee" for example the same way you speak an "ee."

i resent when a program talks to how easy it is. maybe initially, but (again my latest thinking) i'm finding vocal exercising goes from easy just starting out, to tough, and back to not easy, but easier than previously.

[gno]

No, I'm continually seeing improvement. My latest is developing one continuous chest voice, and being able to lighten up at any point with characteristics of what some people call head voice. At the same time carrying the deep fold chest voice up into the range I once considered head voice. When developing my range it was helpful to isolate a "head voice" with thinner folds to learn how to sing up there. Now I've erased any boundries between chest and head.

[VideoHere]

No, I'm continually seeing improvement. My latest is developing one continuous chest voice, and being able to lighten up at any point with characteristics of what some people call head voice. At the same time carrying the deep fold chest voice up into the range I once considered head voice. When developing my range it was helpful to isolate a "head voice" with thinner folds to learn how to sing up there. Now I've erased any boundries between chest and head.

yes! that's awesome geno, i feel the same way too! after a lot of work...lol!