If I can't have you

[Seth]

Acapella, just the chorus. This is Adam Lambert's version of the song. My pitch control is iffy in this upper register. Getting closer to the sound he has though. I don't want to sound like him either, but I want to be able to if I want. Be as harsh as you want.

http://www.box.net/shared/lp3mczuq636uhcsyfu0p

[Opaa]

Nice tone and sounds nice and all, but I think that you should work to get more compression or sing chestier. I've been trying to get that Adam Lambert thing for a while and I've been doing what you are doing now: singing very light. It's essential to have that light headvoice and that connection but I think you should start to build it stronger now. When I started to stretch the chest up higher, first singing kind of "too chesty" things started to balance out for me, leading to that mid voice control that Lambert has. I'm not there yet but I'm starting to get results, plz check out my post of Whataya want from me :)

[Opaa]

Oh and perhaps you should use less air first! Sing lightly but as little air as possible, you'll need more support and control for that and you can grow the voice from there better.

Other feel free to correct me if I'm giving bad advice, I'm no pro, I'm just a singer who's starting to get a hang of it.. x)

[Seth]

Less air? That's an interesting idea. I'll try it tomorrow. I agree with the compression comment as well, I know it needs to thicken up a fair bit, but I feel I'm on the right route. I'll check out your post and reply to it on its thread.

[kevthemusiclover]

I feel like you need to put a little more twang in it, which is funny since you told Opaa to do the opposite on his attempt at an Adam Lambert song lol. And the Oooooh at the end of the chorus, I think he is actually more of the sound "oe" as in "foot" and then going back to an "oh" when he gets a little lower, also you did "oh oo ho oh", and if you want the kind of sound Adam made on that note then an "oo" shouldn't be in there, sing "oh" on the lower parts of the run and "oe" when it gets higher. The "if" after that he sings more like a yeah without the y. Also if you try to sound slightly more whiny like a cry, hence why people call it cry lol, then you would counteract some of the twanginess. And when you sing "baby" you let out a puff of air at the end of it. You pitch control was actually good except on the "if i cant have you oh" part, and I think you just didn't go for the really high "if" after that, but that note is really short and I am pretty sure you can hit it.

I hope I didn't make that really complicated or too long.... I'm not an expert either by the way.

[devaitis]

Wrong way man. You have got excellent pitch accuracy. Well its just the matter of time you will kill this song. Practice only.

If you want to sing first part of chorus in medium volume you have to sing like that: (sorry for my English) http://www.box.net/shared/qnaqc1kc8kafy7u18tju

Lets go deeper. Further, next chorus should be sung with more power then my clip. Full curbing plus distortion. This configuration is quite hard to sing with good control (stable vibrato). So It requires a lot of practice.

Firstly, try to sing like me. Then increase the power.

[ronws]

Mt one suggestion is from a different direction but it will make all the difference in your breath support and continuity of tone, which will make it easier for you.

The one bad habit I heard is that you were singing the consonants. Your v was an f and had way too much time in the sound. Consonants should be fleeting and soft. You did right by forming the words with you lips instead of your mouth. Just let the lips meet softer, yet quicker. "Baby" had way too long an involvement with the 'b' sound. Just lighten the consonants. The longer your lips are apart, the easier it is to maintain the note.

Bravo for going light and slow. This is the way to learn, at first. Volume and intensity can come along later.

[Seth]

Wow, thanks for the responses guys. I'll try all of this stuff when I get a chance. Glad I'm on the right track. This was the first time I felt I got a decent hold of this sort of sound.

I'll post when I can. Another issue I have with recording is my thin walls. When I'm wailing I feel like the whole neighborhood can hear me. I've got to do some sound proofing.

Devaitis, thanks for the link, that should help me tremendously (great sound btw)

Ronws, your comment on the consonants makes sense to me. I'll try to keep them fleeting and soft.

Kev, I'll try to add more cry. Maybe if I think of the Notebook while I'm singing it...