D.Starr Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 OK so I'm gettin the hang off curbing, I think, I can feel a good firm hold in my neck, not straining at all. Only at times but when I stop I can correct it. I'm trying to cover Jazmine Sullivan's In love with another man. I put up a cover of it on Youtube, kinda half arsed, I know I can do better. But when I sing it I find trouble with the word towel. I loose all the connection in the vocal folds, like they snap open. Now how I say towel involves the lips narrowing for the W, but when I sing it my jaw is low and back and I've tryed to phonate towel with just my vocal cords and finding it difficult. Any tips? Here's the youtube version, like I said I could sing better but I was in a half arse mood at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-wKSeR2Gd4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 I think I would just sing "Owl" with the T in front. Like saying Ow...as in Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 (I can't help you at all because I don't have any vocal knowledge, but I have to say that this is a GREAAAAT song choice, love Jazmine ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 OK so I'm gettin the hang off curbing, I think, I can feel a good firm hold in my neck, not straining at all. Only at times but when I stop I can correct it. I'm trying to cover Jazmine Sullivan's In love with another man. I put up a cover of it on Youtube, kinda half arsed, I know I can do better. But when I sing it I find trouble with the word towel. I loose all the connection in the vocal folds, like they snap open. Now how I say towel involves the lips narrowing for the W, but when I sing it my jaw is low and back and I've tryed to phonate towel with just my vocal cords and finding it difficult. Any tips? Here's the youtube version, like I said I could sing better but I was in a half arse mood at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-wKSeR2Gd4 you are singing it in a different key and singing a higher note for 'towel" than she is...is that what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Yeah I wanted to sing it a little higher up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aIU3gDheN8 This is what I use for reference. I envy Chris Brown's singing. I don't wish to sing like him, but I use him as a point for referance on how he sings. Kinda hard to explain. I'll quickly record something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Yeah I wanted to sing it a little higher up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aIU3gDheN8 This is what I use for reference. I envy Chris Brown's singing. I don't wish to sing like him, but I use him as a point for referance on how he sings. Kinda hard to explain. I'll quickly record something. "towel" sung up pitch will increase the difficulty. try it without the up pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Revised version http://www.box.net/shared/ht1fg7euxugj9x84ai66 EDIT Think I solved it, but I dislike the prolonged T sound I have at the beginning http://www.box.net/shared/q1vyd40tc77vprxc0q3n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Revised version http://www.box.net/shared/ht1fg7euxugj9x84ai66 EDIT Think I solved it, but I dislike the prolonged T sound I have at the beginning http://www.box.net/shared/q1vyd40tc77vprxc0q3n try this: with towel, the 't" interrupts breath. i had this issue in a chris isaak song... although you are going to sing a "t,"... in your mind, concentrate and visualize more of a "d" sing the "t" but think 'd" drop the "w" altogether..to assist with a smoother breath flow. sing dahuhl .....emphasize the "ah"... record it. if you do it correctly, the audience won't even pick up on the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Life saver so mush release I feel on it. http://www.box.net/shared/1su5ci3bjnk7e5fv5rqm The D kinda works on a lot of stuff with T high up, just gotta try and modify the D so it has the little tick noise T's tend to have. You feel like I loose abit of umph with the D but I'll work on it. Now to move on to breath control, been told I need to work on 1) Proper breathing 2) Vocal Control 3) Vocal Runs. These to me are like the fundamentals to singing :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Life saver so mush release I feel on it. http://www.box.net/shared/1su5ci3bjnk7e5fv5rqm The D kinda works on a lot of stuff with T high up, just gotta try and modify the D so it has the little tick noise T's tend to have. You feel like I loose abit of umph with the D but I'll work on it. Now to move on to breath control, been told I need to work on 1) Proper breathing 2) Vocal Control 3) Vocal Runs. These to me are like the fundamentals to singing :S d, (as in you, d ) lol!!!! remember you're still singing the "t" but thinking "d." it really helps. "v" helps with "f" too. but one thing i'd like to suggest....runs and trills are great as an embellishment, and i know they get perceived as "man, that dude can really sing" but if a singer uses them too much it can be very disconcerting to the audience. there's no room for error...they have to be spot on in pitch too or you're gonna be in trouble. my suggestion would be to sing that song without any trills and runs first, then add them in here and there. it will bring you to terms with your pitch and intonation first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Lol the you was a typo. Yeah my runs are excellent but like you said runs, licks and trills are a stylistic choice. Not everyone uses them but I kinda like them. I'll work more on my voice before I work on them to be honest. I'd rather work on my breath and support and gettin past f4 and upwards. Need to attempt my curbing better. Sirens in a head voice and NG scales are really helping connect my chest and head voice. But I seriously need to learn to erase the bridge crack first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Hey D.Starr. In addition to the great advice you've been offered in this thread, I made a short demo clip for you which should help with your registration and smoothing out the transition into your middle voice. http://www.box.net/shared/my9dlj95j4a2xe192j86 ~~Dante~~ Awesome. All of that is taken on board and I'll work with it and post a recording. Weather is crazy at the moment, waaay too humid so I'm hot as hell to sing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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