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This is vocalist Chris Barretto in studio. I was wondering whether anyone could identify the type of scream he is using and how to achieve this? It sounds like a really well practiced vocal fry to me but I'm not sure

Vocals start around 0:48 seconds

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I'm pretty sure it is a form of death screaming and fry screaming. Death is a kind of grunt, kind of like barking like a dog. Fry is a very quiet scream (like a whisper scream) except it sounds loud when it is done into a microphone.

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@jonpall I do have the CVT book. It sounds to me more likely to be a grunting, however, he gets such massive sustain on the high tones compared to others who use a grunting technique. I read somewhere before that it is possible to combine a fry and a grunt, but I can't see how.. or it might have been frying your false cords? but again, that doesn't seem plausible to me

@darkclaw3000 yes, i purchased Jamie's screaming program when it came out, after not finding Melissa Cross very useful. He only talks about fry screaming, and the tone on this video, although it sounds like it could encorporate fry, sounds much fuller, darker and louder than fry.

@MariFreakinA yes, those are the two types of screams most frequently used by metal screamers. However, it can be hard to discerned between techniques as everyone can sound different doing them.

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It can sound different but only because eventually when you have mastered the technique of screaming you put your own pizazz on it. Eventually you will put your own weight on it and it will become heavier and not as standard like in the beginning when you are learning.

Mikeeasley, make sure when you are learning to fry scream you start out really light, Melissa Cross's ZOS is pretty good at explaining fry technique but honestly, I think I learned more from people on Youtube than her.

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I'm pretty sure it is a form of death screaming and fry screaming. Death is a kind of grunt, kind of like barking like a dog. Fry is a very quiet scream (like a whisper scream) except it sounds loud when it is done into a microphone.

Not necessarily true, fry screams can get pretty loud with practice. Particularly with higher placements or those which produce more overtones. The dog bark sound is a low placed fry scream. All the screaming in this clip is fry. Most non pitched screams are.

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Extreme metal screaming I find is excellent for learning placement, support, vowel modification and somewhat counter-intuitively care for your voice. We should get more screaming threads on here. There aren't many people really studying it.

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Extreme metal screaming I find is excellent for learning placement, support, vowel modification and somewhat counter-intuitively care for your voice. We should get more screaming threads on here. There aren't many people really studying it.

I couldn't agree more. There are plenty of posts on lighter distortion techniques, when actually full distortion screams have helped me to access my false chords and kept my distortion use safe. I actually think it might be easier then working this backwards into my singing. In my mind it seems logical if you can do something to an extreme, backing it off should be easier than learning it lightly from scratch. Plus like you say, apart from maybe CVT and numerous youtube videos that fail to explain the process, there is little insightful information on the subject.

@srs7593 - can i ask, do have much experience/knowledge concerning screaming?

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Only my own voice and observations of others. I've worked on it since I started singing. I don't practice it anywhere near as much as I practice singing.

I've watched some of Melissa Cross's stuff but I think even that leaves a lot of things unanswered. Youtube videos by random people are collectively very helpful. I'm considering posting some myself. Covers as well as tutorials.

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ahhh right. Pretty much the same as me. I've never found someone who can do it, who can actually explain it! yea, i think i've taken a few things from collective videos, but there are so many frustrating "so, I'm going to teach you how to scream, so like, just like push, and , like scream" explanations!

I've got Melissa Cross 1 and 2 and haven't found them very helpful. She touches on false cord/grunt for a minute, but only explains what is happening, not how to do it, and then says it shouldn't be attempted by tenor voices because of the wear?!?! what nonsense! try telling that to Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy (who Cross is actually teaching false cord to in one of the examples!) very contradictory and vague..

post up a link when you do, I'd love to hear 'em!

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