Is this twang?

[Martin975]

Hey guys. I would like some guidance here. Here is a small clip of me doing a siren. I have been using Four Pillars of Singing for 12 days now and doing the exercises approx. 3 hours a day (which is what I aim to do for a pretty long period of time). Before this I practiced with Singing Success.

Is this the sound I should be aiming for when singing (twang) or is it still falsetto?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZFOK7HD

Thanks in advance!

Martin

[jonpall]

You're twanging there, sure. But as far as if you're doing the exercise correctly according to the Four Pillars, I have my doubts. Robert Lunte could tell you that best. Ultimately, there are many ways to sing and which sound sounds "best" is a matter of individual taste. However, I'd suggest that you a) be less breathy in the start of the siren and use slightly more volume at the end of it (so it doesn't sound too "thin"). Cheers.

[VideoHere]

hymm if there was twanging, in that clip it was very light.

[Martin975]

Thanks for your inputs.

Jonpall, how would I do that? I am new on how to configure my voice. I used to just do what felt natural. (Pull chestvoice and break into falsetto).

VIDEOHERE, could that be because I haven't developed the strength yet?

[PopVlad]

Hey Martin,

Below is a little audio demonstration of the kind of sound you should be aiming at.

http://www.box.net/shared/fncc7d728lqbh7job16x

Start with a twangy "meh", than play around with it and hit a couple of notes.

THAN try to sustain it and while you're at it lower your larynx. The trick is that the "witch cackle" becomes "singer's formant" once the larynx is lowered.

I do a G4 in my demonstration.

P.S. I'm just a beginner, so, don't take my word for it. You're still better off asking Rob since he's the one who developed the 4 Pillars AND launched this lovely forum

Take care,

Vlad

[VideoHere]

Thanks for your inputs.

Jonpall, how would I do that? I am new on how to configure my voice. I used to just do what felt natural. (Pull chestvoice and break into falsetto).

VIDEOHERE, could that be because I haven't developed the strength yet?

maybe this would help.....jon bon jovi sings with a lot of it. twang is a great way to brighten or intensify frequency.

sing "maaaaaaaaaaay" a as in "acorn."

[jonpall]

Yeah but note that the amount of twang is independent on the height of both your larynx and your soft palate. Therefore, you can f.ex. twang a lot with a low larynx, which means that you get BOTH the high overtones from the twang and the low overtones from the low larynx. Done to extremes, the sound will be operatic. But in order to initially FIND the twang, it's usually best to use a high larynx and therefore sound a bit like a duck or a witch. Then you can get a feel of where twang is created in your throat (back and up, by narrowing the epiglottis funnel). I think that many people think that singers are only singing with twang when they sing with that duck or witch sound, which isn't true. Btw. I'm not talking about you, Bob. I know that you know all these things inside and out.

[VideoHere]

Yeah but note that the amount of twang is independent on the height of both your larynx and your soft palate. Therefore, you can f.ex. twang a lot with a low larynx, which means that you get BOTH the high overtones from the twang and the low overtones from the low larynx. Done to extremes, the sound will be operatic. But in order to initially FIND the twang, it's usually best to use a high larynx and therefore sound a bit like a duck or a witch. Then you can get a feel of where twang is created in your throat (back and up, by narrowing the epiglottis funnel). I think that many people think that singers are only singing with twang when they sing with that duck or witch sound, which isn't true. Btw. I'm not talking about you, Bob. I know that you know all these things inside and out.

yeah, that's what you think!!...lol!!!!