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Fabio, the singer from Kamelot uses falsetto, or at least what I think is falsetto, in alot of his songs. It is my understanding that strengthening the falsetto strengthens ones overall voice... Does that sound right? And, if this true, then is singing scales in falsetto enough to make it stronger?

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Hey Keith to answer that question. I practiced tons of falsetto exercises through the yrs. But what I realized in the end was just sing in one voice from top to bottom. That is unless your singing Prince, EWF singers like that. I'm not familiar with Fabio(other than the book model). So i dont know if he's in falsetto coordination or if its full voice I'll check it out though. If your going to sing very high ala, coverdale, perry, dio, stevie wonder, you need to stay connected the whole way through these singers did not practice falsetto they just sing one voice. Remember the cords are not as close in falsetto as they are in full voice so if you practice to much falsetto the muscles get used to it in other words practice like you sing...hope that helps

Daniel

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Fabio, the singer from Kamelot uses falsetto, or at least what I think is falsetto, in alot of his songs. It is my understanding that strengthening the falsetto strengthens ones overall voice... Does that sound right? And, if this true, then is singing scales in falsetto enough to make it stronger?

keith, please don't get hung up because the terms "falsetto" and "head voice" are used interchangeably so as confuse the confused. it's just one of the most confusing terms.

i'm on a journey to strengthen my head voice (again, some might call it "falsetto") with the anthony frisell method i've talked about. speaking only for myself, it definitely is helping me but it's gonna take some time before head voice begins to pierce into chest.

so lets say strengthening the head voice is not a bad idea, but like dan said, you have to sing with one unified register.

my latest focus is when i feel i'm getting near e4 or so, it's time to move into head voice...period no more staying in chest for me. i've learned my lesson.

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Where was the falsetto in the "March of Mephisto"?

Yes, there are some higher notes at soft volume but it sounded like full fold closure to me. Just because a high note is not "screamed" or "raspy" does not mean it was falsetto.

I had to learn that, too. One of my best received recordings of "Dust in the Wind" was really a clean, connected head voice that i previously, erroneously, thought of as falsetto.

So, could you provide what you think is this singer's use of falsetto?

Aside from the fact that exercising falsetto has benificial side-effects.

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In the chorus to me it sounds like he is jumping up to a light head voice/falsetto sound It is more pronounced in other songs, but this the one that came to mind. Who else loves this guys voice?

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In the chorus to me it sounds like he is jumping up to a light head voice/falsetto sound It is more pronounced in other songs, but this the one that came to mind. Who else loves this guys voice?

Yea Kamelot is awesome

Isn't the singer named Roy Kahn?

i had images of "i cant believe its not butter" when you said fabio

If i remeber correctly, i believe thise guy started out singing opera then switched to metal for some reason.

truly awesome voice.......

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If you use what you believe is falsetto, and end up with a compressed tone, then yes it has the potential to help your mid-range. If you use this same "falsetto" with no compression, then it has potential to be painful and screw with your midrange.

Either way you're only dancing around the true solution, which is to practice better compression via twang and support.

Just my $0.02.

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Roy Kahn is in the book of interviews by Bill Martin.

So, paraphrasing his words, he started singing when he was 18. Someone literally heard him singing in the shower and said he ought to make a go of it. So, for a while, he tried rock and punk didn't find it challengin enough.

So, he started taking classical technique lessons and had kind of planned on getting into the opera scene in Norway. Along came Conception and he got with them and that eventually led to Kamelot.

He feels (he doesn't put technical descriptions on it) that is high notes are a mix of head and chest. He describes himself as a high baritone with some tenor but I think he can do some low baritone, ala Geoff Tate.

He might be using some falsetto for effect, or it might be the mix he is talking about. He says the same thing I do, that a high note is a small note, physically. But that high notes require so guts. So he knows the difference full volume and falsetto.

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Can I just say that Kamelot is a killer band. That is all.

Haha, but seriously though, he is using a twanged head voice with a well-tuned formant. The same thing that all the pros here bang on about every day.

Now achieving that... Is a lot easier said than done!

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@raphaels what I mean is prince or philip bailey(ewf) will sing a whole song in falsetto, and also use it as an effect or style in and out of full voice. Smokey sometimes falsetto, other times just a very light connection to the fullvoice, Al green uses it as an effect listen to lets stay together you can hear him pop in and out. Soloman ( amazing) uses it as an effect but like smokey and al he knows how to lighten his fullvoice to get that pretty sound. That comes from belting in the church and learning to control it. Opera singers call it mezza voce(half voice). I am no opera singer but I have sung in gospel choirs and never once was i asked to go into falsetto. They vocalize you high and hard. I used to lose my voice after a warmup up with Georgia Lewis(she sang with reverend Cleveland) i was fortunate to sing in her choir for a year in Redding Connecticut(or near redding). I got caught up doing alot of falsetto because people told me it would strengthen my fullvoice maybe it did. However I've studied with some great opera/gospel/rock singers and the ones that were really good, crazy good never practiced or went into falsetto unless the were singing prince type stuff or using it as an effect. This made me change my whole approach to singing and knock on wood it hasn't failed me yet.

Some student come to me and can't let go into falsetto if thats the case I help them find it usually by practicing yodeling. Once they get it i have them do long scales starting in chest ending in falsetto. Once they get that I drop the whole falsetto thing unless they want to do the prince thing. My favorite singers when i have asked them told me "they never go into falsetto or practice it and these guys are animals here's my buddy Joe Retta he sings for Led Zepplica, Queennation, A dio tribute, a Bad co. tribute . An R&B band and he is the Lead singer for Sweet. When I ask him about singing he tells me he never uses falsetto to sing high he just sings in One voice. Check him out

Him and jeff are both friends of mine we have all been singing for this corporate party band company for yrs called Perfect world entertainment.

Ask them both about falsetto and their voice and they will tell you they dont use it.

Wow long post for me enjoy the vids

hope that helped.:)

daniel WWW.DANIELFORMICAVOCALSTUDIO.COM

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Hey Daniel, I tried to leave a comment at your website but it said something about entering the words one sees below, which I never saw, so it wouldn't take the comment. You might think about making the site more user friendly. Just sayin ....

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Hey Daniel, I tried to leave a comment at your website but it said something about entering the words one sees below, which I never saw, so it wouldn't take the comment. You might think about making the site more user friendly. Just sayin ....

Ron,

I just went to the site and the Captcha was working(2 words were visible.)

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im actually confused where did you or would you leave a comment? See what im sayin about being a computer idiot

dan

Dan,

I was confused too which is actually what motivated me to dig around. It took me a while, but on your site at the end of "The road less traveled" blog there's a place to leave a comment.

Here: http://www.danielformicavocalstudio.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=38:the-road-less-traveled

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awesome i have no idea if it posts or goes somewhere if you guys want to reach me just email me daniel@danielformicavocalstudio.com or call or find my profile on this site i would love to hear from ya and help out i have had tons of problems singing and have been touring for yrs. And at the same time studying with everyone. I'm also tight with a couple voice doctors in los angeles so if i can't answer im sure they can.

peace

daniel

www.danielformicavocalstudio.com

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Roy Khan quit the band and Fabio filled in for him.

Roy Khan uses a filled in head voice. Similar to Geoff Tate but with somewhat of a higher tessitura and a tendency to sing in a darker tone in his chest voice. He's a favorite of mine.

His voice got thinker when he sang with Kamelot. More compressed, less breath, more 'cry.'

Fabio is an Italian singer who sang in Vision Divine. I'm not as familiar with him.

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awesome i have no idea if it posts or goes somewhere if you guys want to reach me just email me daniel@danielformicavocalstudio.com or call or find my profile on this site i would love to hear from ya and help out i have had tons of problems singing and have been touring for yrs. And at the same time studying with everyone. I'm also tight with a couple voice doctors in los angeles so if i can't answer im sure they can.

peace

daniel

www.danielformicavocalstudio.com

dan, if you're sure you don't mind, i'll take you up on that.

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Spoke to a dr. Legally they can't give advice but did say that if the polyp is small and soft it can go away with out surgery much like a nodule. If you don't gig for a living I would stay quiet for 8 weeks then go get scoped

Daniel

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thanks a lot dan for giving me a glimmer of hope. i know from reading, more research has been done on nodules than polyps. i scoured the web and talked to a lot of folks.

there are two ways i can go:

Non-Operative Treatments:

Voice therapy followed by proper voice use and care is often effective at reducing or eliminating voice problems from voice nodules, polyps, and occasionally cysts. A speech pathologist and singing specialist can work with the patient to change behaviors and voice patterns that may be exacerbating the condition. Medications are often used to treat associated problems.

Operative Treatments:

Vocal nodules, vocal polyps or vocal cysts which do not respond adequately to voice therapy can be removed surgically using laryngeal microsurgery, with highly effective results.

i'm talking softly and using the voice only when i have to, steaming twice a day, prilosec once a day, and all the rest i was told to try.

i'm gonna give it 3 mos. if i doesn't shrink by then, i guess i'll have no choice.

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Yeah, probably, you will have to quit hollering across the floor of the store to people as well.

It can't be easy. You have to change the way you speak, which is harder, I think, than changing the way you sing, though I could be wrong, (Won't be the first time, nor the last.)

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