Vocal cover of "victim" by avenged sevenfold, over the instrumental

[Shrike123311]

http://uppit.com/61dzu7182ik0/Victim_vocal_cover.mp3 <- linkage, first things first.

Second, I just want to say, I love this site and the people on it. You guys are awesome.

So, on the "aaah" or "I" sounds, I get this really heavy rasp to my voice that, while it doesn't hurt, I kind of want to be able to "turn it off" when I need to.

I also have trouble with intonation when moving through fast passages, and starting softly.

So, I figured I'd post here and see how much negative feedback/criticism I could get

I truthfully hate this cover, but. It's the only one I have over an instrumental. If you guys want an a capella cover of another song perhaps to get a clearer

sound of my voice, let me know, I'll gladly provide.

Only effect added here was doubling the tracks and layering. No autotune. I only doubled it for volume purposes. Thank you guys in advance, cheers!

[ronws]

Allow me to burst your bubble, school you a little bit, and break you out of your self-induced fantasy of what you think you know (just keeping it real, ya know?).

Mixing suggestion you don't need so much doubled vocals on this. Your voice is plenty strong and you don't need all the reinforcement. I don't know who mixed this but tell them to stop it.

You can easily be the next Nickelback, though you have a better voice. And one that is likely to last longer.

So, what are you doing here? In music, from heavy metal to pop, this is the age of the high baritone and dramatic tenor. Make hay while the sun is shining. Quit fiddling around and release something. I have spoken.

In the words of Yul Brenner, "So it is written, so it shall be done." (from "The King and I.")

[Shrike123311]

your first line put a huge smile on my face. I get that a lot; I don't mean to come off like a knowitall or anything like that, and I apologize if it comes off like that, and it tends to come off more that way in text than by voice.

that being said, this is the first time someone said something along the lines of Nickelback in relation to me. Thank you for the complement on my voice.

I am here because I wish to improve and increase my range, but I wanted to see if I'd get any immediate criticism on my singing technique or style.

I have a full range of D2-G4, G#4 on a good day. Currently working on an album with my band.. but constructive criticism is always helpful, y'know?

Last line is smileworthy, too. (:

[ronws]

I wasn't thinking of you as a know-it-all and certainly I can have an odd way of expressing myself. The self-induced fantasy part is something we are all prone to, including myself. You cannot hear yourself like others hear you, even if you are listening to a recording of yourself. Because even as you listen to yourself, you are still filtering through your own beliefs, etc. I can listen to some of my old recordings and hear things I thought were wrong that no one else would catch.

You have to break out of that, sometimes, and accept that a job was well done. 95 percent of singers don't like their own voice.

Good luck, and you are in a good place to learn some things.

[Shrike123311]

Well. thank you sir, I appreciate that. (:

[Mr Bounce]

I think you have a really good voice for this style. I hear glimpses of early recordings of Disturbed and A7X in your voice, it's quite nice. If it doesn't hurt, then you should keep developing this technique!

That said, the vocal doubling is really not so good mate. Multi-tracking is fundamental to contemporary popular music, especially on the vocals, especially in heavy styles of rock... But it just isn't done well here. It doesn't sound like one voice, it sounds like a dodgy chorusing effect

If you "doubled" it by duplicating the track and offsetting the duplicate by a small amount in time, then understand that this is NOT double-tracking. Double-tracking is re-recording the same take as perfect as you can get it. It works because you can never get it perfect, but you must strive to, to get that "one voice" sound.

Anyway.. keep on keeping on man!

[Shrike123311]

will do. If you want, I'll post a redone version when I have the chance to. Thank you again. ^^

[ronws]

Actually, I have experimented with duped tracks, just to add weight. And I have heard vocal tracks from pros where the chorus was duped. It adds extra weight. Steven Fraser wrote in a thread how he will sing a lead track, then dupe two more tracks, left and right channel at anywhere from 70 to 100 percent. Since it takes more bandwidth, it gets more prominence. Of course, that means, on a one-track vocals during the verses, you have to drop .5 dB on the other instruments during the vocals, in the range of notes where the melody is. Which I can't do with Audacity, as it doesn't do effects variations in real time. Whatever I do to a track, it affects that entire track.

In the tenor range, one might have a notch of reduced dB for guitars at about 3 kHz, the middle of the tenor range.

I understand what I am saying, theoretically, though I still stink at mixing. It took some years to get the voice that I have. It will take some more years to learn how to record and mix my voice. Which is why I send it, if he has the time, to Mike for mixing. Dude has skills with mixing.