Keith Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Hey guys. I still feel like there is something around D5 that is keeping me from singing higher. Like some bridging thing that I can't do. And I'm still struggling with too much air when I get up there. Are the two issues maybe related? The stuff I do is pretty much this: Warm ups, then: 1. Descending sirens - slow 2. Ascending sirens - slow 3. Arpeggios (spelling?) with lip rolls first, then vowels (I do not do Nay and Gug - let me know if I should) 4. sometimes volume swells, but they generally make me feel strained and tire me out fast - So I really do not do them a lot. 5. 5 tone "Mah Mi" ascending and descending I can siren through my break after I get warmed up with hearing the break - and sometimes not even feeling it - but if I need to sing a passagio note with power, it tires me out. Our last show, our last song has a ton of choruses in it that are all written in the passagio - and after the first one, the others wear me out and my range compresses - so I must be doing something wrong there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 keith, just some suggestions....how's your support? are you controlling your exhalation? are you keeping the back of the throat open? are you doing all of those you listed before a gig? maybe too much before a performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I tend to close up a little around G4; and no, I just do lip rolls on a 5 tone scale a few times before a show. Not sure how my support is - never had a vocal lesson - so not sure I'f I am messing that up somehow. I feel like I am in control of my exhalation - but I guess it is possible that I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 i would wholeheartedly recommend warming up more than that. chewing hums, the lip rolls, some scales on ng, ng to a vowel, all of that stuff.... just helps so, so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 i would wholeheartedly recommend warming up more than that. chewing hums, the lip rolls, some scales on ng, ng to a vowel, all of that stuff.... just helps so, so much. Yeah, I mis spoke there - I do "hung", lip rolls , all day long lol. I usually do 3 20 minute warm up routines depending on what time are playing. 4 of them if we are playing at midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 WHats a chewing hum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 hum and do a exaggerated chewing motion at the same time. helps open up the resonating cavities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Keith - Ok here's what I think technically is going on: with a limit like that it's likely you are holding your folds at a certain thickness and that is preventing you to go higher. Remember your CT muscle at this point it the dominant muscle and is trying to pull and stretch the folds for higher pitch. If it were falsetto you surely could go higher - that is because in falsetto the TA is totally relaxed. But you are trying to have a strong head voice, so your TA is active as it should be to thicken the folds. But you're holding the TA in a "fixed" place preventing the CT from stretching any further. What you need to learn is to gradually reduce the TA. It's like a moving ratio. CT pulls more, TA relaxes a little more. Ok - sorry for all the mumbo jumbo - I just like to know exactly what is going on. To overcome this you've got to think smaller. You should be doing ascending and descending scales, starting low - up and down, and then going up a half step and repeat. When D5 is near the top of the scale, think smaller. Who care's if it isn't strong. It will be once you get this going. But at first think small. I would use "ng" to start. This will be the easiest since you don't have to worry about vowel mods all the time. Once you break through - you can use "eh" which is like the easiest open vowel to do this on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 So when thinking smaller, do i still raise my soft palate and lower larynx and smile? Or drop jaw? Or what lol. I really need to accomplish this "release" or bridge or whatever it is called. I can sing a B4 and C5 in what I think is all head voice , and resonate it so it vibrates my eyes, but the note feels locked in place- cant move it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hey, I just noticed something while holding my lower jaw (dont ask) I noticed that my larnyx is jumping way up when I sing any head voice note.. Is it supposed to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 ideally, no. do you configure to a yawn when you sing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 ideally, no. do you configure to a yawn when you sing? A little, but if I overdo it, I actually yawn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 A little, but if I overdo it, I actually yawn! lol!!! i find it helps keep an openess in the back of the throat, even if you close the mouth down a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I yawn while driving. It causes concern for other drivers. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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