baritone redirection

[DoverOs]

Last time I was here I was looking for tips on how to keep my voice in shape. My lowest note has really established itself at G#2 instead of G2. I can still hit G2 at times, but it's no where as low as it was when i started singing. So when i checked, my normal voice was G#2-C5/C#5, and my operatic voice was G#2-A4.

When I sing up in the G4, G#4, A4 notes in my operatic style, It's very harsh sounding and very tense. Even though those notes are plenty high for a lot of roles, My voice feels like it's in an awkward position, like it's not deep anymore, but the high notes are still hard to hit. What's your thoughts on what I should do, or what techniques I should practice?

[Sarit_Aloni]

I think that it because your voice is not positioned. I mean when we don't "think high" but "try to reach" high notes , that means we are low in pitch. Even if it doesn't look to you right now. Try to think that you want to sing from a higher point. Don't worry , it has nothing to do with the not "reaching to the lower notes". The idea is that as more we know how to use our voice working well with our vocal spaces (resonance spaces) to easier it would be to change pitches. Try no to think in matters of : this is high note, this is a low note , but try to think of the low note as it is a high one.

Tell me if you need more explanation about it... (if you are interested of course)

Good luck!

[DoverOs]

I'm not interested in going lower. I admit, that I just really started using my operatic voice. When I worked on my natural head voice, it was very high and airy at first.. and as I practiced the pitch adapted to sing those high notes with better sound. I really hope that I can develop my operatic voice, but the feeling of it is more tense and harder than anything I've done before. So I'm really at a loss at what I need to do

[Sarit_Aloni]

But can I ask something? Do you take voice lessons or doing all by yourself :)

[DoverOs]

all by myself

[Sarit_Aloni]

hmmmm ... At this point I can tell you honestly that it can be quit risky. "singing operatic" is a complex issue. I can tell you on my self: Took voice lessons since I had 16 years old (Now I am 33)... Learned for years, and you know what? Sometimes it is still complicated... and it is normal too.

What I am trying to say that yes I believe we can learn a lot by our selves but there are some difficult craft , especially like operatic singing that require working with an experienced singer/teacher. Even singers with a lot of years of experience continue to take lessons because sometimes a persons can't realize what an ear can do from out side. tell me what do you think

[Sarit_Aloni]

I was writing as an answer to someone who wrote something about singing without taking lessons ...

http://themodernvocalist.punbb-hosting.com/viewtopic.php?id=3562

You might be interested to see that example too.

[DoverOs]

Yeah, that's a good perspective. It's something I will definitely slow down and take my time with. :)

[Sarit_Aloni]

Good luck! :)

[VideoHere]

I'm not interested in going lower. I admit, that I just really started using my operatic voice. When I worked on my natural head voice, it was very high and airy at first.. and as I practiced the pitch adapted to sing those high notes with better sound. I really hope that I can develop my operatic voice, but the feeling of it is more tense and harder than anything I've done before. So I'm really at a loss at what I need to do

if you are opera bound or even if you wish to incorporate classical technique into you singing, two of the biggest skills to assist you are learning to support really well by dynamic opposition of the diaphagm, and learning to sing with a relaxed open throat achieved by a lowered laryngeal position.

lots of us d.i.y.'s, but for true classical technique, you're gonna need a skilled teacher. not just for learning to sing, but for singing safely.