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Wow these guys can just sing their ass off. Reminds me of Adam Lambert on American Idol who could do circles around the other competitors. Or Jacob Lusk, the Gospel singer who truly made it look like a gift from God... I've always admired Gospel singers for the sheer range, tonal variation and ease of singing that they demonstrate. Amazing.

Damn! Might have to watch this show!

EDIT: Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op79hYvqkEw

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joshua......great vocalist......but.......let me just ask this question.......hear me out now folks.........i'm not saying i could even do this ......but......is this really that difficult in terms of vocal prowess? once you're up there...and the voice is situated and placed up there....from that point on...is what he's doing really that difficult when you look carefully at it?

there's a lot of ornamentation and trills and all.......but........is it really that difficult?

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when you say the "tone" are you reffering to that "it factor" of what he's able to produce from physiological endowment, his particular vocal footprint, (god given) or how well he crafts his vowels and resonance?

take a guy like jimi jamison from suvivor. the guy to me has a very pleasing tone. a very "singer" tone.

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joshua......great vocalist......but.......let me just ask this question.......hear me out now folks.........i'm not saying i could even do this ......but......is this really that difficult in terms of vocal prowess? once you're up there...and the voice is situated and placed up there....from that point on...is what he's doing really that difficult when you look carefully at it?

there's a lot of ornamentation and trills and all.......but........is it really that difficult?

About equally difficult as singing like Lou Gramm.

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Well I think sometimes it's easy to chalk someone's tone/tambre up to the way they were born or whatever, but the reality is that a lot of great singers search for their tone; they explore the different sounds that they can make and ultimately develop a palate of colors that is their personal style. A lot of people do this searching before they start recording, but take a look at the discographies of Ray Charles, Bobby Bland and Dr. John and you can hear a ton of exploration and experimentation in the early years.

To get back to the point, I don't think this Joshua guy was born much differently than Lou Gramm, but (to my ear) he's a superior musician because his tone is more refined... he's got richer colors on his palate. This could easily spiral into a whole rock and roll vs. other music thing though, it's almost like comparing a guitarist like Zack Wylde to Joe Pass or something... they have very different but equally valid skill sets.

i see now more of what you mean. but in defense of lou gramm or any other singers, can't we also say that someone has a richer tone or a more colorful vocal palate at a point in time, perhaps per song, per episode, per stage in their vocal development? perhaps their album cut has this quality, but their promoted single doesn't?

here is what i mean..using steve walsh (kansas) as an example...here he does guest lead vocals on a cd for some yet- to- be-discovered band and displays a side of his voice i'm sure most would never knew existed.

but no one even knows he did this. can you believe it, this is the great steve walsh! i love discovering things like this.

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yes. to me, that should be a voice goal, to have such development that other genres, moods, personalities, can be reflected in your voice.

i have studied lou a lot. in his earlier years he tended to actually have a deeper, somewhat covered quality to his voice.

here he sounds so resonant. when you listen you can almost feel his "uh's" and "ee's" and "oo's" deeper timbre. as time went on and he got past the "4" album, he tended to get more steeley, and brighter sounding. whether that was choice or what, i'd love to know.

check out this early tune. his resonance is so...well...resonant..lol!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_Kp3o_htE

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yes. to me, that should be a voice goal, to have such development that other genres, moods, personalities, can be reflected in your voice.

i have studied lou a lot. in his earlier years he tended to actually have a deeper, somewhat covered quality to his voice.

here he sounds so resonant. when you listen you can almost feel his "uh's" and "ee's" and "oo's" deeper timbre. as time went on and he got past the "4" album, he tended to get more steeley, and brighter sounding. whether that was choice or what, i'd love to know.

check out this early tune. his resonance is so...well...resonant..lol!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_Kp3o_htE

Wonderfull.

His voice is like on another plane of quality compared to the recording. Its so free and resonant you almost dont notice how hard it is to sing this, specially delivering this power.

I fear I will need to buy a few records... Hope I can find it.

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it's out of print, but the album's songs are on youtube.

yes, it is very difficult to sing like this. so much has to be in place. you can actually hear his air being directed to the sweet spots in his resonating cavities. nothing is being dug up from the bottom, nothing is strained. it's all aimed tones.

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