Teodur Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 First of all hello to everyone this is my first post, I'd like to thank this lovely community for generating sooo much information that has helped me as well as many others in our quest to become better singers. I've started to practice various exercises on a daily basis for about a month or so and finally I've managed to effortlessly climb up to G4: http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/full-g4 Now, I'd like to have confirmation on this, because the different uses of the terminology sometimes confuse me. As far as I understand, I went from chest past my bridge into head voice somehow mixing the two resonators (?) so that it sounds like one connected voice. I sure hope that I'm on the right track with this. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 nice job. your bringing up chest and mixing in a little head while staying connected. an arbitrary percentage on the first siren sounded like 70/30 chest/head. that would be my take on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thank you for your comments guys! Credit goes to mr. Lunte, I was able to do it after seeing this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGcZr3l3Bw0 Now, am I correct to assume that when he sings those notes in the passagio at 5:40, he is using more head than chest voice compared to me? About this covering thing, I have to raise my cheeks in the same manner that mr. Lunte does, but I have to modify to an ah vowel to hit the note. I'm assuming that's because I start with a lighter or "sharper" sounding eh vowel in the first place! Or does it not sound like I'm covering at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Teodor - sounds really good. There is not a "head" resonator and a "chest" resonator. The vowels change a bit when traversing the passagio, but the feeling of "head" is more that you are letting the CT muscle take dominant control over the TA muscles. In chest the TA muscles are dominant which give you thicker folds and a thicker, brighter, stronger tone. What you've done is retained the TA activity while going into head. This gives you a single continuous voice. That is good. You are still letting CT take control, but you are retaining the TA (chest) as you go into head. The natural tendency is to let TA go while going into head giving you a weaker sounding head voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Thank you for the comment geno, I'm a lot less confused now. http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/full-a4 Hit A4 today with the help of ah vowel modification. I'm guessing head voice is getting more dominant now? In order for you to continue going higher with that kind of chest connection, your vowel may have to shift a little bit -- that will cause the head musculature to engage more. It might have to go to a slightly more closed EH vowel, as opposed to the open EH vowel you demonstrated in your clip. Can you elaborate on this closed eh vowel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 another nice job. you're supporting the tone well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcorange Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 i'd like to take the time to say that i am very jealous 1 month?! damn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 rfcorange..send a sample...let us hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 i'd like to take the time to say that i am very jealous 1 month?! damn!!! +10 years of singing under the shower (though poorly). C5: http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/full-c5 I wanted to start with a dark sounding eh, instead I did an ah for some reason. Managing covering, proper inhalation, support, jaw & tongue position sure is a lot of stuff to think about. I have no idea how to hit higher notes, I could do a Db5, maybe even D5, but after that it's a no go. Any tips? http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/wobly-f4-ee Also I'm having trouble bridging with the ee vowel. Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 critical to your success with an "ee" is the shape of your mouth and the tongue being nice and loose. also the "ee" needs to be shaded to more of an "ih" as in "eight" as you ascend higher. try onsetting the "ee" as an "ee" with the mouth of an "eh" or an "ah." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverOs Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 @Teodur, that c5 was like a mix between b4 and c5. it was more on the b4 side with c5 inflections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 B4 ee: http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/b4-ee Sorry for the bad quality. I shaped the vowel on an ah, then tried to switch to an ih when passing the break. Can't mix in more chest, feels too heady. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 it is too heady if your goal is one connected voice. here's my suggestion. assuming you can't go to a teacher, try to take a step back. do scales and start bringing up the voice connected using the same voice you use to speak (purposely not saying "chest voice."). don't be afraid to try to stay connected as high up as you can go as long as you don't push or strain. you will have to say to yourself "no going into head voice, but i will look to thin out the voice as i ascend." keep the connection to some chest voice musculature as you ascend the scale. go to where you can't go any higher, then come back down. each day, plan to go to where you can't go any higher, come back down. each time you keep trying....keep everything in the throat relaxed, jaw relaxed, use the lower core as an engine. don't worry about the b4 for now..just work up towards it..in time you will train the voice to stay connected. i find "may" "may" "may" is great for that. in fact try this exercise you see below: one of the best exercises i have used to strenghten the voice is may, may, may, (as in "hey") taken all the up in the natural voice..no breaking into falsetto. g3, d3, b3, g4 (four times) and back down, transpose up 1/2 step. keep it all in the natural voice. hit this in a pretty loud volume but start loud and stay loud. keep the volume consistent. as you ascend try to aim the sound behind the nose. go as high as you can go without pushing or straining. do this exercise early after you warmup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 F4 A - E - I - O - U: http://soundcloud.com/user6123358/f4-a-e-i-o-u The goal was to hit clear vowels without flipping into pure head. Obviously the last one is giving me problems. Do I need to keep the mouth shaped the same way for every vowel and just adjust the position of the tongue? Or what's the best solution here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodur Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Hey guys, been practising a lot since the last time I posted. I also got in contact with an classical singing teacher, gonna start working on some easy arias for starters. E4 A - E - I - O - U: I think this sounds better than the last clip I posted, what do you guys think? Now the problem I'm noticing is, I actually wanted to hit F4 there, but for some reason I keep being flat all the time. Any tips regarding that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 flat singing usually has a lot to do with under supporting the tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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